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December 9, 2007, 01:11 AM | #26 |
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I enjoy shooting at 100yrds from time to time. I cant hit much at that range but it is fun to do! Helps me get a feeling for what i can and cannot do with a handgun.
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December 9, 2007, 05:40 AM | #27 |
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My handgun of choice is a revolver, either a S&W .357 magnum, or .44 magnum. I practice at 10 & 25 yard targets, stationary; and, out to 30 yards in a once a month tactical type scenario my gun club puts on.
From my view this is really the most distance I think I'd encounter, as at that distance I'd be prone to 'Exit stage right', as fast as I could, or hunkered down in a solid defensive posture. What I have found, is the longer range (25 yard) shooting has really benefited my 10 yard shooting also. So I continue that practice.
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December 9, 2007, 07:00 AM | #28 |
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CCW at Range
A few other Instructors I have talked to have stated that long distance practice with a pistol might not be a bad thing as you never know when things might turn to PooPoo and all you have is your pistol.
On another note I have a friend that does practice at long range with his snub nose and can regularly breaks balloons at 200 yds with very few if ever misses. But what do I know.
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December 9, 2007, 09:08 AM | #29 |
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I shoot black powder competition with a bunch of old coots. One of our matches is with B/P pistols where we shoot off hand at 25 and 50 yards. You wold be surprised how you can still hit black at fifty yards. It never hurts to know what you can do with your pistol.
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Rampage: I think there are some steel silhouette clubs or at least ranges around B'ham...try your hand with them...but, be warned...it's VERY addictive.
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December 10, 2007, 08:24 AM | #32 |
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I just do it the normal way, Glock 17, thumbs forward grip.
A man size steel target at 100 yards gets hit 70% of the time with very little practice. |
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I practice regularly at 100yds with my 9mm---I can keep most shots in a 10-12in circle.
While I can't guarantee a hit--I will be able to keep their heads down while I get out of there--or wait for help.
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Once you are comfortable just shooting and hitting at long ranges, you'll need to practice with your CCW with your carry ammo. You need to know where your carry gun and your carry ammo will hit. Don't just shoot at one distance. That won't be very helpful. Practice at 50 yards, practice at 100 yards, practice at 150 yards if you can do it. Know where the drop will be at these ranges and in between. If you can, have a friend put a target out in a field at an unknown distance while you look away. Turn around, pick up your gun and see if you can hit it with only three rounds(range estimation practice). There is a lot of ballistic forgiveness at 15 yards. At 75 yards, there may be a big difference between where your carry ammo prints and where your practice ammo prints. Ammunition selection may be something you want to pay attention to. You may even want to change your carry ammo, or(trying to think outside the box) you may want to carry an extra mag with dedicated long range ammo. Quote:
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At the range I haunt, we have bowling pins at 7yds., paper targets at 25yds. and 50yds. Depending on what I am there to practice, my routine varies but mostly I do a few bowling pins before I go to 25yds. Do the majority of my shots there. On occasion I shoot at the 50yds. Target standard size and I have a heck of a time. I can stay on paper but have no pattern whatsoever. I use 1 inch hold over. Wind is never a issue at the range. I can expect to hit the paper but I never know exactly where. I don't alter the isosceles triangle stance that I use at 25yds. So I will watch this thread for some tips also. Shooting at distance is stretching the ccw scenario, but no more than a lot of "what if" threads I see here. There would have to be a clear shot picture with no friendly's, cause I sure couldn't count on me hitting with precision.
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At the risk of sounding callous, I offer Joe's Crabby Shack's "Von Maur Drill:"
http://joemerchant24.blogspot.com/20...aur-drill.html It's based on a first-hand account of what happened at Westroads Mall in Omaha: http://joemerchant24.blogspot.com/20...-shooting.html Adding the anaerobic pre-workout would add realism. |
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frankly if he has a rifle, you better find cover and quit trying to hit him at distance.
his sights are perfectly set up for the distance, his POA and POI are the same, he will not have to compensate and he has much more penetration through barriers then you. At 100 yards, your bullet is much much weaker then his. find cover and hope to get the ambush on him to drop him. |
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You started at seven to ten meters, then moved it out to fifteen to seventeen, then moved it out again. In spite of what one poster stated, ballistics DO change in handgun rounds the further out you go. Heavier, larger bullet that is traveling much slower. Something else to consider. Best and fastest way to hone up your distance shooting (in my experience) is to shoot falling targets. You get instant feedback on whether or not your technique, aimpoints and distance/elevation adjustments are working. I think it helps you develop your "eye" a little faster. Another thing to consider is wheel gun versus semi. I'd be considerably more prone to taking a longer shot with any one of my wheel guns. With my semi's, I'd have to really, really be in one helluva bad pickle. Jeff
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One thing you can do is visit the website of your carry ammo manufacturer. Most of them will have a ballistics table that will show you the bullet drop at 25, 50, 75 and 100 yards. Once you know that, slow practice at the range to verify the results and/or modify your knowledge.
In my view, if you decide to take the shot, the two more important things you'll need, besides the capability (weapon/ammo) are (1)Focus and (2)steadiness. The focus puts out of your mind everything but making the shot right. Steadiness means steadying down to control your breathing and nervousness. Focus will help your breathing and controlling your breathing will help your focus. To me, "long range" with a CCW gun is going to be anything beyond about 35 yards. That's still plenty close for a rifle shooter to get lucky. As to why... it is entirely foreseeable that in some incident you will take cover (hopefully real cover) because you can see the shooter or he comes into view, then find that your retreat options boil down to slim & none. In such a situation, it may be best to keep a low profile whilst preparing yourself for a shot. He might walk away, but he might not. As said before, the best would be a planter for cover and a small bush to shoot through.
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