Can't get the Glock out me

1911Alaska · June 1, 2013, 03:40 AM

Sold my Glock today, looking to go from 9mm to a 40. But I want something else. Don't get me wrong, I have loved every Glock I have ever had (17,21,27,29) they all do what they are meant to do. Never had one jam, I love the trigger and the short reset. There accurate and fit perfectly in my hand. I have had other guns, two Rugers, a cheap 1911, Berreta 92, and a Walther P99. These guns have all been decent for the most part but just don't compare to the Glocks for me. Thats the thing, Glocks are just boring. I want something new something I can be proud of thats not "just another Glock". I love Glock but just getting bored of it. All that said I now qualify for the Glock Blue Label program so is even harder to walk away from the dark side. I think Glocks to me are kinda like a 50 year old wife youve had since you were 20. You love her to death, but shes getting a little boring. You see all these hot sexy 20 year olds running around having fun and you would love to have one for a day, but if you were to spend the rest of your life with either one its gonna be your wife (the glock).

Okay enough of that lol

What to get? Thinking a XDM 40., maybe a Sig P226. What else do you guys think? I want a full size polymer gun in a 40 cal with double stack magazines. Preferably SA but could settler for DA/SA trigger but MUST have a short trigger reset. Buddy got a HK P30 last week and I just didn't like it so not one of those.

What else is there that I am missing? hmmm

JimmyR · June 1, 2013, 04:04 AM

I love my PX4, but I got mine in DAO because I just don't like the safety design. Not sure about the SA trigger.

I know a lot of Glock folks really like the M&P, but I have no experience with them.

Others have said good things about the new polymer line of CZs (P07, etc), but I haven't played much there either.

Personally, I like my guns to be made of metal, and for a good SA/DA weapon, I love my CZ-75 and my FEG PA-63. Once I get my Makarov running right, it may become one of my CC favorites...

Jack19 · June 1, 2013, 04:42 AM

Alaska, you describe, almost perfectly my current dilemma.

I've owned hundreds of handguns over the past 30 years, and that is no exaggeration. I've also been, mostly, out of the shooting sports since 2007, and I have not kept up with whats available out there or, it seems, prices.

Lately, I'be been looking for two things, a 1911, and as light and compact a polymer framed 9mm as I can find for CCW.

Naturally, I'm looking at the Glock 26, but I know exactly what you mean about boring.

And, prices,

What happened?? Browning Hi-Powers are $1000 when you can find them, SIGs are running $900, HKs, the same. Even Glocks, locally, are high $500/low$600. Finding a basic 1911, I really like the Remington R1, is $600 plus.

It's not that the cash is the problem, just the sticker shock. I feel like Rip Van Winkle.

You might take a look at the CZ SP-01 Polymer frame. I've had good luck with CZs and it looks like it fits your criteria. But it's 9mm, so that may eliminate it for you. (Still, 18+1 is hard to beat.)

http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/...sp-01-phantom/

If you're now in LE, and your department requires you to carry a 40, I'd suggest carrying the same 40 as your coworkers. That way, you can trade magazines if the need arises...and having been down that road...it can.

Good luck with your search.

1911Alaska · June 1, 2013, 05:27 AM

I think I may stick with a Glock but get a FDE one. hmmm

kcub · June 1, 2013, 05:49 AM

Consider the Sig X5 in .40. Not cheap but I understand it is supposed to be in the same accuracy class as the much celebrated Sig P210; that's worth something.

Essentially a single action only P226 except for the All Around which is standard DA/SA I believe. The Competition model has a huge mag release that is unfriendly for lefties though I understand per the following link it can be replaced with a standard P226 mag release. I just bought one but I am waiting for my mag release so I can't comment on shooting it just yet. Anyway, nothing much boring about this pistol.

http://www.brianenos.com/forums/inde...owtopic=159556

Garycw · June 1, 2013, 06:16 AM

I would 2nd the Sig, not that familiar with above mentioned model, but never met a Sig I didn't like! I also like my desert baby eagle( IWI Jericho 941) in .40 cal too.

Sevens · June 1, 2013, 09:55 PM

I am not trying to be rude, but just saying what occurs to me.

You keep getting rid of Glocks because you find them boring and uninteresting, even though they do everything most folks want from a handgun, in your opinion.

I can understand that, even if I don't agree with it. Problem I'm having is that every single other thing you have listed in your post... what you've had, what you are considering, and that *yawn* your buddy has, and I can't find anything interesting in any of those.

Do you own any revolvers? Why not actually try something that is genuinely different, rather than shuffling a bunch of tupperware through your hands?

I would make an argument that there simply is no "interesting or exciting" tupperware guns, but that is obviously my opinion and I wouldn't expect everyone to agree with it.

Bluestarlizzard · June 1, 2013, 11:04 PM

Here's a vote for XD.

I've got the sub compact in .40 s&w. Quote from the Glockophile I date when he shot it. "It's like they fixed everything wrong with the Glock."

Black Eagle · June 2, 2013, 12:42 PM

You should get an XD. I had one but sold it cause it was not a Glock. I have trouble with Sigs because of the slide stop engages with recoil. Have not warmed up to M&Ps yet, but would love a Berretta 92.

wild cat mccane · June 2, 2013, 01:04 PM

Technically your previous P99 you had a much faster reset than any Glock...

sigarms228 · June 2, 2013, 01:06 PM

Try a SIG P226 or P229. They are awesome pistols if you like hammer fired pistols like I do and easily my favorite hammer fired pistols. There are quite a few models that have the SRT but all don't.

You might also want to try a new M&P .40. SW has improved the trigger quite a bit on the very latest M&Ps and I found that to be try dry firing a couple recently as I may have interest in the M&PC 9MM.

Good luck!!

Uncle Malice · June 2, 2013, 01:10 PM

+1 for the P226, given your criteria.

Ruger45LC · June 2, 2013, 01:35 PM

I've been there. I cut my teeth on Glocks and over the years I've tried others just to see you know. Several M&P's, XD's as well as an XDM, a Sig, a Walther, a number of 1911's, several other cheap S&W's and all that.

But none satisfy me like a Glock does. Sure it's boring, but nothing else compares.

1911Alaska · June 2, 2013, 02:15 PM

Well nothing changed, I decided I better get a Glock. I wouldn't feel comfortable trusting my life to anything else.

So I ordered a Glock 23 in Dark Earth on gun broker yesterday. Beautiful gun, can't wait for it to get here. I got night sights waiting for it.

Bluestarlizzard · June 2, 2013, 02:19 PM

Well, I would say post pictures when you get it, but we already know what it looks like

Enjoy your chocolete brown goodness.

+1k ammo · June 3, 2013, 10:24 AM

I second the Glock.

I always would shoot them and then look for others. In the end and after many years, I just stripped down and cleaned up my g21c and will never give it up.

I bought a shield for CCW, but now am thinking of a G19 or G26 if it fits my larger hands. I like the S&W, but it is not a Glock.

Tactical Jackalope · June 3, 2013, 11:04 AM

Alright! Well we sound the same! lol, okay...I love my Glock's too, they're boring reliable and boring awesome.

I have a SIG P220, SIG P226, M&P-9, Colt Gold Cup Trophy Match, Hk USP 40, Browning High-Powers x2, Smith and Wesson Model 19-3, Colt Series 70...I know I'm missing a few more. I've sold a lot.

Anyways, I have several Glocks...

Now what I say for you? To have the Glock reliability and have it win a beauty contest here and there?

SIG Sauer P226

One of my favorite guns ever. 3,000+ rounds and carried it before my Glock for 3 years.

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So I ordered a Glock 23 in Dark Earth on gun broker yesterday. Beautiful gun, can't wait for it to get here. I got night sights waiting for it.

Ha! Ok, even better then! Stick to it...I've stuck to my Glock 19 and can't bring myself to carry anything else. So I guess you are even more the same as I.

Enjoy! Post pics. I have Trijicon HD's and a smooth faced trigger on my Glock 19.

peacefulgary · June 3, 2013, 10:08 PM

I went through my "Glock phase" too...but I got over it.

Now I don't own a single Glock.
I don't bash them because they are good guns without a doubt....just not for me these days.

6.8 · June 4, 2013, 02:09 AM

Go to Home Depot and pick up a circular saw and an 8ft 2x4. Head home and slice up 8 prime examples O glock perfection Jones filled

Tactical Jackalope · June 4, 2013, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 6.8

Go to Home Depot and pick up a circular saw and an 8ft 2x4. Head home and slice up 8 prime examples O glock perfection Jones filled

Appreciate your opinion. It was very insightful.

arch308 · June 4, 2013, 10:01 AM

I've always been a Glock fan since I started shooting/collecting handguns. I instantly fell in love with the simplicity and reliability as I am a firm believer in the KISS rule. I will never give them up and just last week finally acquired a Gen 3 G26 that I hope to try out today.
I do agree up to a point that they do become a little boring. They aren't really attractive and they just run & run with no hiccups. I have recently fallen in love with both my Sigs (P226 & SP2022) and the 1911 platform. Admitedly they now get most of my range time but if I had to get rid of some guns the Glocks would stay, period.
IMHO they are as perfect as it gets. KISS

BuckRub · June 4, 2013, 10:21 AM

All you guys who owned multiple guns and always changing looking for the perfect one and wonder why you're still not proficient because you went from every brand there has been in the last couple of years.

Tactical Jackalope · June 4, 2013, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BuckRub

All you guys who owned multiple guns and always changing looking for the perfect one and wonder why you're still not proficient because you went from every brand there has been in the last couple of years.

Agreed to the max! That kind of stuff can get you killed. Different mechanisms in your "carry rotation". That's a no no. If you're switching over, then legitimately switch over! Train hard with your new one.

Dragline45 · June 4, 2013, 11:55 AM

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All you guys who owned multiple guns and always changing looking for the perfect one and wonder why you're still not proficient because you went from every brand there has been in the last couple of years.

I have never had that problem, and I switch carry guns like women switch purses. Maybe I am naturally gifted, but just about any handgun I pick up from DAO to striker fired I shoot proficiently. Handgun shooting fundamentals transfer over from one platform to the next, it doesn't take much to become familiar and proficient with a new handgun if you have the experience. Haven't you ever shot a buddy's handgun at the range that you never shot before and pulled off tight groups right off the bat? You don't need years of trigger time on the same exact gun to become proficient with it.

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That kind of stuff can get you killed. Different mechanisms in your "carry rotation". That's a no no. If you're switching over, then legitimately switch over! Train hard with your new one.

At one point I would switch from a S&W 640 DAO revolver and an SR9C striker fired depending on my mood that day. I was familiar with both platforms, shot both extensively, and carried both extensively. I fail to see how carrying two vastly different platforms will get me killed. It's not rocket science.

Seaman · June 4, 2013, 12:42 PM

Agreed.

Today I have a 9mm Walther PPS on my ankle, a 40 cal Sig P229 strongside OWB, and a 44 spl S&W NightGuard revo in a shoulder holster. No extra mags, speed-loaders or moon-clips. Tomorrow I might have a different package.

I have been enjoying many different firearms since I was 4.

I like guns a lot, like variety, and enjoy carrying such.

Sure beats carrying same old boring whatever...

June 1, 2013, 03:40 AM	#1
1911Alaska Senior Member Join Date: April 23, 2012 Posts: 139	Can't get the Glock out me Sold my Glock today, looking to go from 9mm to a 40. But I want something else. Don't get me wrong, I have loved every Glock I have ever had (17,21,27,29) they all do what they are meant to do. Never had one jam, I love the trigger and the short reset. There accurate and fit perfectly in my hand. I have had other guns, two Rugers, a cheap 1911, Berreta 92, and a Walther P99. These guns have all been decent for the most part but just don't compare to the Glocks for me. Thats the thing, Glocks are just boring. I want something new something I can be proud of thats not "just another Glock". I love Glock but just getting bored of it. All that said I now qualify for the Glock Blue Label program so is even harder to walk away from the dark side. I think Glocks to me are kinda like a 50 year old wife youve had since you were 20. You love her to death, but shes getting a little boring. You see all these hot sexy 20 year olds running around having fun and you would love to have one for a day, but if you were to spend the rest of your life with either one its gonna be your wife (the glock). Okay enough of that lol What to get? Thinking a XDM 40., maybe a Sig P226. What else do you guys think? I want a full size polymer gun in a 40 cal with double stack magazines. Preferably SA but could settler for DA/SA trigger but MUST have a short trigger reset. Buddy got a HK P30 last week and I just didn't like it so not one of those. What else is there that I am missing? hmmm Last edited by 1911Alaska; June 1, 2013 at 03:46 AM.

June 1, 2013, 04:42 AM	#3
Jack19 Senior Member Join Date: August 18, 2001 Location: Somewhere in the Ford Galaxy Posts: 713	Alaska, you describe, almost perfectly my current dilemma. I've owned hundreds of handguns over the past 30 years, and that is no exaggeration. I've also been, mostly, out of the shooting sports since 2007, and I have not kept up with whats available out there or, it seems, prices. Lately, I'be been looking for two things, a 1911, and as light and compact a polymer framed 9mm as I can find for CCW. Naturally, I'm looking at the Glock 26, but I know exactly what you mean about boring. And, prices, What happened?? Browning Hi-Powers are $1000 when you can find them, SIGs are running $900, HKs, the same. Even Glocks, locally, are high $500/low$600. Finding a basic 1911, I really like the Remington R1, is $600 plus. It's not that the cash is the problem, just the sticker shock. I feel like Rip Van Winkle. You might take a look at the CZ SP-01 Polymer frame. I've had good luck with CZs and it looks like it fits your criteria. But it's 9mm, so that may eliminate it for you. (Still, 18+1 is hard to beat.) http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/...sp-01-phantom/ If you're now in LE, and your department requires you to carry a 40, I'd suggest carrying the same 40 as your coworkers. That way, you can trade magazines if the need arises...and having been down that road...it can. Good luck with your search. __________________ Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals. Samuel Adams

June 1, 2013, 06:16 AM	#6
Garycw Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2011 Location: Ohio-Kentucky - florida Posts: 1,221	Can't get the Glock out me I would 2nd the Sig, not that familiar with above mentioned model, but never met a Sig I didn't like! I also like my desert baby eagle( IWI Jericho 941) in .40 cal too.

June 1, 2013, 09:55 PM	#7
Sevens Senior Member Join Date: July 28, 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 11,756	I am not trying to be rude, but just saying what occurs to me. You keep getting rid of Glocks because you find them boring and uninteresting, even though they do everything most folks want from a handgun, in your opinion. I can understand that, even if I don't agree with it. Problem I'm having is that every single other thing you have listed in your post... what you've had, what you are considering, and that yawn your buddy has, and I can't find anything interesting in any of those. Do you own any revolvers? Why not actually try something that is genuinely different, rather than shuffling a bunch of tupperware through your hands? I would make an argument that there simply is no "interesting or exciting" tupperware guns, but that is obviously my opinion and I wouldn't expect everyone to agree with it. __________________ *Attention Brass rats and other reloaders:* I really need .327 Federal Magnum brass, no lot size too small. Tell me what caliber you need and I'll see what I have to swap. PM me and we'll discuss.

June 1, 2013, 11:04 PM	#8
Bluestarlizzard Senior Member Join Date: May 23, 2013 Location: Virginia Posts: 347	Here's a vote for XD. I've got the sub compact in .40 s&w. Quote from the Glockophile I date when he shot it. "It's like they fixed everything wrong with the Glock." __________________ Mal: "If anyone gets nosy, just...you know... shoot 'em. " Zoe: "Shoot 'em?" Mal: "Politely."

June 1, 2013, 04:04 AM	#2
JimmyR Senior Member Join Date: February 4, 2012 Posts: 1,273	I love my PX4, but I got mine in DAO because I just don't like the safety design. Not sure about the SA trigger. I know a lot of Glock folks really like the M&P, but I have no experience with them. Others have said good things about the new polymer line of CZs (P07, etc), but I haven't played much there either. Personally, I like my guns to be made of metal, and for a good SA/DA weapon, I love my CZ-75 and my FEG PA-63. Once I get my Makarov running right, it may become one of my CC favorites...

June 1, 2013, 05:27 AM	#4
1911Alaska Senior Member Join Date: April 23, 2012 Posts: 139	I think I may stick with a Glock but get a FDE one. hmmm

June 1, 2013, 05:49 AM	#5
kcub Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2010 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 3,318	Consider the Sig X5 in .40. Not cheap but I understand it is supposed to be in the same accuracy class as the much celebrated Sig P210; that's worth something. Essentially a single action only P226 except for the All Around which is standard DA/SA I believe. The Competition model has a huge mag release that is unfriendly for lefties though I understand per the following link it can be replaced with a standard P226 mag release. I just bought one but I am waiting for my mag release so I can't comment on shooting it just yet. Anyway, nothing much boring about this pistol. http://www.brianenos.com/forums/inde...owtopic=159556

June 2, 2013, 12:42 PM	#9
Black Eagle Junior Member Join Date: May 26, 2013 Posts: 3	You should get an XD. I had one but sold it cause it was not a Glock. I have trouble with Sigs because of the slide stop engages with recoil. Have not warmed up to M&Ps yet, but would love a Berretta 92.

June 2, 2013, 01:04 PM	#10
wild cat mccane Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 3,627	Technically your previous P99 you had a much faster reset than any Glock...

June 2, 2013, 01:06 PM	#11
sigarms228 Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 2011 Posts: 1,768	Try a SIG P226 or P229. They are awesome pistols if you like hammer fired pistols like I do and easily my favorite hammer fired pistols. There are quite a few models that have the SRT but all don't. You might also want to try a new M&P .40. SW has improved the trigger quite a bit on the very latest M&Ps and I found that to be try dry firing a couple recently as I may have interest in the M&PC 9MM. Good luck!!

June 2, 2013, 01:10 PM	#12
Uncle Malice Senior Member Join Date: May 11, 2009 Location: Phoenix Posts: 4,580	+1 for the P226, given your criteria. __________________ Handguns: 2x Glock 19.4 \| Glock 26.4 \| HK USP 9 \| HK P2000 \| HK VP9 SK \| HK P30 \| CZ Shadow 2 \| CZ P-10 C \| CZ P-07 \| CZP-01 \| S&W 360PD Rifles: DDM4 \| SGL 21 \| SAM7K \| Draco \| PSA PDW SBR \| ASA Side-Charger SBR \| CZ Scorpion K SBR \| Aero M4E1 9" 300blk SBR \| Angstadt Jack9 SBR \| Savage Mark II FV-SR Shotguns: Mossberg 590A1 20" SP \| Mossberg Shockwave

June 2, 2013, 01:35 PM	#13
Ruger45LC Senior Member Join Date: July 24, 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 768	I've been there. I cut my teeth on Glocks and over the years I've tried others just to see you know. Several M&P's, XD's as well as an XDM, a Sig, a Walther, a number of 1911's, several other cheap S&W's and all that. But none satisfy me like a Glock does. Sure it's boring, but nothing else compares.

June 2, 2013, 02:15 PM	#14
1911Alaska Senior Member Join Date: April 23, 2012 Posts: 139	Well nothing changed, I decided I better get a Glock. I wouldn't feel comfortable trusting my life to anything else. So I ordered a Glock 23 in Dark Earth on gun broker yesterday. Beautiful gun, can't wait for it to get here. I got night sights waiting for it.

June 2, 2013, 02:19 PM	#15
Bluestarlizzard Senior Member Join Date: May 23, 2013 Location: Virginia Posts: 347	Well, I would say post pictures when you get it, but we already know what it looks like Enjoy your chocolete brown goodness. __________________ Mal: "If anyone gets nosy, just...you know... shoot 'em. " Zoe: "Shoot 'em?" Mal: "Politely."

June 3, 2013, 10:24 AM	#16
+1k ammo Senior Member Join Date: January 9, 2013 Posts: 235	I second the Glock. I always would shoot them and then look for others. In the end and after many years, I just stripped down and cleaned up my g21c and will never give it up. I bought a shield for CCW, but now am thinking of a G19 or G26 if it fits my larger hands. I like the S&W, but it is not a Glock.

June 3, 2013, 10:08 PM	#18
peacefulgary Senior Member Join Date: January 26, 2011 Location: USA Posts: 714	I went through my "Glock phase" too...but I got over it. Now I don't own a single Glock. I don't bash them because they are good guns without a doubt....just not for me these days.

June 4, 2013, 02:09 AM	#19
6.8 Junior member Join Date: February 21, 2013 Posts: 316	Go to Home Depot and pick up a circular saw and an 8ft 2x4. Head home and slice up 8 prime examples O glock perfection Jones filled

June 4, 2013, 10:01 AM	#21
arch308 Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2011 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 876	I've always been a Glock fan since I started shooting/collecting handguns. I instantly fell in love with the simplicity and reliability as I am a firm believer in the KISS rule. I will never give them up and just last week finally acquired a Gen 3 G26 that I hope to try out today. I do agree up to a point that they do become a little boring. They aren't really attractive and they just run & run with no hiccups. I have recently fallen in love with both my Sigs (P226 & SP2022) and the 1911 platform. Admitedly they now get most of my range time but if I had to get rid of some guns the Glocks would stay, period. IMHO they are as perfect as it gets. KISS

June 4, 2013, 10:21 AM	#22
BuckRub Junior member Join Date: October 3, 2012 Location: Central Texas Posts: 1,046	All you guys who owned multiple guns and always changing looking for the perfect one and wonder why you're still not proficient because you went from every brand there has been in the last couple of years.

June 4, 2013, 12:42 PM	#25
Seaman Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 2011 Posts: 654	Agreed. Today I have a 9mm Walther PPS on my ankle, a 40 cal Sig P229 strongside OWB, and a 44 spl S&W NightGuard revo in a shoulder holster. No extra mags, speed-loaders or moon-clips. Tomorrow I might have a different package. I have been enjoying many different firearms since I was 4. I like guns a lot, like variety, and enjoy carrying such. Sure beats carrying same old boring whatever... __________________ For 20 years the sea was my home, always recall the sun going down, and my trusty friend, a 1911 pistol, strapped to my side.