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May 16, 2012, 02:24 PM | #51 | |
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ADDING: And the rest of your post seems to be excusing forced entry without a warrant simply because the LEO's were 'riled up'... |
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May 16, 2012, 02:48 PM | #52 |
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that’s OK, don’t want you . ... joke
not because they were riled up, but trying to secure an area that was in chaos. Excusing, going after someone recording, no. Excusing "collateral damage" maybe. Given the situation the cops were in, it depends highly on other actions the recorders took … as to whether the cops were justified in going after them. There’s a lot that hasn’t been reported about this particular mess, and probably won’t ever be. You’ll get the full side of the story as presented by the "teens" and their mother, though.
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May 16, 2012, 03:55 PM | #53 |
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While I understand that the LEO's were rightfully upset about the loss of a 'brother', they do not help the situation by stomping on the constitution...
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May 16, 2012, 09:54 PM | #54 |
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Nice sentiment, but I don’t give cops a pass for emotional considerations.
Just from experience, and knowing a few details... I think it’s likely the teens and/or mom did something stupid, and appeared aggressive to the cops. Given the dangers inherent to the area they were in, I think it’s reasonable to be less tolerant of aggressive behavior than under "normal" circumstances. Cops also have the right to self protection. If they were honestly trying to secure their own safety, and had reasonable cause to act upon a belief that they were in danger … Constitutional principles were upheld, not trampled upon. Whether the teens actually posed a danger, and what they were doing is irrelevant. What matters is … what the police reasonably believed the teens were doing. not enough info to judge, imo.
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May 24, 2012, 11:31 PM | #55 | |
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Along these same lines, a Florida judge ruled Tuesday (5-22-12) that flashing of the headlights to warn oncoming drivers of a police presence is protected free speech. We'll see where that goes.
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