Remington Marine Magnum and Slugs ...

Petre · February 7, 2006, 10:16 AM

What do you guys think ? Is it OK to shoot rifled slugs though it or is it going to deteriate the barrel quickly ? Being that it's nickel plated inside and out I imagine it could deteriate that surface rather quickly , but I have no experience on which to base this.

I also think at that point the worst that could happen is I would need to keep the barrel well oiled so it won't begin to rust ?

Thanks

Petre · February 7, 2006, 02:37 PM

Nobody knows the answer to this question ?

Dfariswheel · February 7, 2006, 03:02 PM

Slugs will in no way harm the barrel.
Slugs have no more effect on a barrel than standard birdshot and buckshot

You can shoot any STANDARD birdshot, buckshot or slug through any STANDARD choked shotgun, from Cylinder to Full.

The Marine Magnum was specifically designed for use with buckshot and slugs, and I suspect you will "wear out" before the barrel will.

DBOUNCE1 · February 7, 2006, 04:08 PM

i'm lost

expeditionx · February 7, 2006, 04:13 PM

Ive put hundreds of slugs through mine and the bore layer of nickle is not damaged anywhere. Im not really sure the exact process Remington uses, but if it is similar to chrome lined bores in military firearms its likely to never wear down enough to allow corrosion. If your still worried, just use shot instead of slugs. You can also get an interchangable rifled barrel to fit your marine magnum. A rifled barrel will serve you well for sabot slugs and rifled slugs like Breneke (which are usable in rifled or smooth barrels.

Petre · February 8, 2006, 10:13 AM

Thanks guys ... do they make that Barrel in Nickel Cote as well Expeditionx ?

expeditionx · February 8, 2006, 01:10 PM

Im really not sure what nickel cote is?
The process mentioned on the remington website is electroless nickel plating?
A definition for this is a chemical reduction process which depends upon the catalytic reduction process of nickel ions in an aqueous solution (containing a chemical reducing agent) and the subsequent deposition of nickel metal without the use of electrical energy. Due to its exceptional corrosion resistance and high hardness, the process finds wide application on items such as valves, pump parts etc., to enhance the life of components exposed to severe conditions of service ,particularly in the oil field and marine sector.

So its different than electro-plating using a current in a tank. Instead, its its a chemical process involving reduction by gaining electrons valently

Petre · February 8, 2006, 07:26 PM

Sorry , Nickel Cote (Actually it's "WEAR COTE") is another trade name for electroless nickel plating ... I was a little confused and just applied the name to the Marine Magnum

... http://www.wear-cote.com/wc-inf.htm

I meant nickle plated barrel .

Blackwater OPS · February 8, 2006, 09:40 PM

Note that "nickel plated" and "electro-less nickel" are different. Also slugs will do fine a 870MM and there is no need to get a rifled barrel which will then not be something you want to put shot though. Rifled slugs work great.

Petre · February 9, 2006, 04:02 PM

COOL .. .Thanks guys

mjolnir · February 11, 2006, 08:19 PM

Electroless nickel can be precipitation hardened (baked) to Rockwell C 60-65. That's nearly as hard as hard chrome. I don't what Remington specs their e-less nickel at, but even without precipitation hardening, it's still at about 45C...harder than the barrel's plain steel surface. Fear not.

February 7, 2006, 10:16 AM	#1
Petre Senior Member Join Date: December 30, 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 634	Remington Marine Magnum and Slugs ... What do you guys think ? Is it OK to shoot rifled slugs though it or is it going to deteriate the barrel quickly ? Being that it's nickel plated inside and out I imagine it could deteriate that surface rather quickly , but I have no experience on which to base this. I also think at that point the worst that could happen is I would need to keep the barrel well oiled so it won't begin to rust ? Thanks __________________ DOCTORS A The number of Doctors in the U.S. is approximately 700,000 B Accidental deaths caused by Doctors per year average 120,000 or 0.171 per Doctor GUNS A The number of legal gun owners in the U.S. is currently over 80,000,000 B The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1500 or .000188 per gun owner Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000x more dangerous than gun owners Remember, Guns don't kill people, DOCTORS do

February 7, 2006, 02:37 PM	#2
Petre Senior Member Join Date: December 30, 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 634	Nobody knows the answer to this question ? __________________ DOCTORS A The number of Doctors in the U.S. is approximately 700,000 B Accidental deaths caused by Doctors per year average 120,000 or 0.171 per Doctor GUNS A The number of legal gun owners in the U.S. is currently over 80,000,000 B The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1500 or .000188 per gun owner Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000x more dangerous than gun owners Remember, Guns don't kill people, DOCTORS do

February 8, 2006, 10:13 AM	#6
Petre Senior Member Join Date: December 30, 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 634	Thanks guys ... do they make that Barrel in Nickel Cote as well Expeditionx ? __________________ DOCTORS A The number of Doctors in the U.S. is approximately 700,000 B Accidental deaths caused by Doctors per year average 120,000 or 0.171 per Doctor GUNS A The number of legal gun owners in the U.S. is currently over 80,000,000 B The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1500 or .000188 per gun owner Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000x more dangerous than gun owners Remember, Guns don't kill people, DOCTORS do

February 8, 2006, 07:26 PM	#8
Petre Senior Member Join Date: December 30, 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 634	Sorry , Nickel Cote (Actually it's "WEAR COTE") is another trade name for electroless nickel plating ... I was a little confused and just applied the name to the Marine Magnum ... http://www.wear-cote.com/wc-inf.htm I meant nickle plated barrel . __________________ DOCTORS A The number of Doctors in the U.S. is approximately 700,000 B Accidental deaths caused by Doctors per year average 120,000 or 0.171 per Doctor GUNS A The number of legal gun owners in the U.S. is currently over 80,000,000 B The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1500 or .000188 per gun owner Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000x more dangerous than gun owners Remember, Guns don't kill people, DOCTORS do

February 8, 2006, 09:40 PM	#9
Blackwater OPS Senior Member Join Date: September 11, 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,152	Note that "nickel plated" and "electro-less nickel" are different. Also slugs will do fine a 870MM and there is no need to get a rifled barrel which will then not be something you want to put shot though. Rifled slugs work great. __________________ "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Ben Franklin Spc. Jeremy M. Campbell Died 9/1/2005 and the best DS ever MSG Matthew Ritz Died 11.23.2005 matthewritz.com For those who have had to fight for it, Life holds a special meaning that the protected will never know. (\__/) (='.'=) Someone set us up the bunny! (")_(")

February 7, 2006, 03:02 PM	#3
Dfariswheel Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2001 Posts: 7,478	Slugs will in no way harm the barrel. Slugs have no more effect on a barrel than standard birdshot and buckshot You can shoot any STANDARD birdshot, buckshot or slug through any STANDARD choked shotgun, from Cylinder to Full. The Marine Magnum was specifically designed for use with buckshot and slugs, and I suspect you will "wear out" before the barrel will.

February 7, 2006, 04:08 PM	#4
DBOUNCE1 Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 2006 Location: OMAHA Posts: 189	i'm lost

February 7, 2006, 04:13 PM	#5
expeditionx Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 2004 Posts: 330	Ive put hundreds of slugs through mine and the bore layer of nickle is not damaged anywhere. Im not really sure the exact process Remington uses, but if it is similar to chrome lined bores in military firearms its likely to never wear down enough to allow corrosion. If your still worried, just use shot instead of slugs. You can also get an interchangable rifled barrel to fit your marine magnum. A rifled barrel will serve you well for sabot slugs and rifled slugs like Breneke (which are usable in rifled or smooth barrels.

February 8, 2006, 01:10 PM	#7
expeditionx Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 2004 Posts: 330	Im really not sure what nickel cote is? The process mentioned on the remington website is electroless nickel plating? A definition for this is a chemical reduction process which depends upon the catalytic reduction process of nickel ions in an aqueous solution (containing a chemical reducing agent) and the subsequent deposition of nickel metal without the use of electrical energy. Due to its exceptional corrosion resistance and high hardness, the process finds wide application on items such as valves, pump parts etc., to enhance the life of components exposed to severe conditions of service ,particularly in the oil field and marine sector. So its different than electro-plating using a current in a tank. Instead, its its a chemical process involving reduction by gaining electrons valently

February 9, 2006, 04:02 PM	#10
Petre Senior Member Join Date: December 30, 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 634	COOL .. .Thanks guys __________________ DOCTORS A The number of Doctors in the U.S. is approximately 700,000 B Accidental deaths caused by Doctors per year average 120,000 or 0.171 per Doctor GUNS A The number of legal gun owners in the U.S. is currently over 80,000,000 B The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1500 or .000188 per gun owner Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000x more dangerous than gun owners Remember, Guns don't kill people, DOCTORS do

February 11, 2006, 08:19 PM	#11
mjolnir Member Join Date: February 13, 2005 Location: Valhalla Posts: 79	Electroless nickel can be precipitation hardened (baked) to Rockwell C 60-65. That's nearly as hard as hard chrome. I don't what Remington specs their e-less nickel at, but even without precipitation hardening, it's still at about 45C...harder than the barrel's plain steel surface. Fear not.