Model 94 hard to load

tugger50 · January 12, 2012, 01:36 PM

Gunplummer · January 12, 2012, 02:29 PM

Look for a 99 Savage.

tugger50 · January 12, 2012, 02:37 PM

I guess my post didn't post.

tugger50 · January 12, 2012, 02:42 PM

I have a pre 64 model 94. I can load the first round no problem. When I push the second round into the gate it stops because the gate is hitting the rim of the previous round. If I push hard with my finger on the gate it goes down rubbing on the 1st round but then I can get the next round in.
Any Ideas?

Edward429451 · January 12, 2012, 05:57 PM

I thought it was a little weird to find the gate actually holding the round in and not a device independent of the gate also. It just takes some technique and practice to load smoothly.

I found that I can load it efficiently by applying more force than you may think is necessary. I use the tip of the bullet and shoot for the crack between round and gate and just force it in with a inward and forward pressure. It sounds worse than it is and really doesn't damage the bullets. When I don't baby it it lets loose and is much easier and smooth than trying to load it easily or nicely.

tugger50 · January 12, 2012, 06:36 PM

Thanks, that makes sense and I'm glad I'm not the only one. The 94 was given to me by my father in law and looks like it has been on more than a few hunting trips.

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michaelcj · January 12, 2012, 10:38 PM

Most folks don't push the previous round all the way "home" and allow the head of that round [which would still be depressing the loading gate] to act as a "guide" for subsequent rounds. Repeat as necessary.

MJ

PetahW · January 13, 2012, 05:20 PM

Smooth out the sharp inner/leading edge of the loading gate with a round India stone.

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tugger50 · January 13, 2012, 08:04 PM

Thanks, I'll try that.

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James K · January 13, 2012, 09:15 PM

I worked on quite a few of those loading gates. First, you have to smooth up the inside of the gate itself to remove burrs and take off sharp corners. Then, take some off the spring part to reduce the force required to push the gate in. Be careful doing this, as you don't want to have it break. When done right, the rounds will go in as slick as ... well whatever you think of as slick.

Jim

Hawg · January 13, 2012, 09:20 PM

Quote:

When done right, the rounds will go in as slick as ... well whatever you think of as slick.

Snot on a porcelain doorknob?

James K · January 13, 2012, 10:15 PM

I was thinking of something to do with nocturnal birds.

Jim

icedog88 · January 16, 2012, 12:20 PM

No NO! Whale snot!

chilton1990 · January 18, 2012, 04:37 PM

As slick as the roads in Northern Indiana in winter????

January 12, 2012, 01:36 PM	#1
tugger50 Junior Member Join Date: March 7, 2011 Location: Arlington, Wa Posts: 9	Model 94 hard to load

January 16, 2012, 12:20 PM	#13
icedog88 Senior Member Join Date: April 16, 2011 Location: norwich ct Posts: 737	No NO! Whale snot! __________________ "The bended knee is not a tradition of our Corps"-LtGen. Holland M "Howlin' Mad" Smith, USMC,1949 Have you forgotten yet? Look down and swear by the slain of the War that you'll NEVER forget. [Siegfried Sassoon,"Aftermath,"1919]

January 12, 2012, 02:29 PM	#2
Gunplummer Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2010 Location: South East Pa. Posts: 3,364	Look for a 99 Savage.

January 12, 2012, 02:37 PM	#3
tugger50 Junior Member Join Date: March 7, 2011 Location: Arlington, Wa Posts: 9	I guess my post didn't post.

January 12, 2012, 02:42 PM	#4
tugger50 Junior Member Join Date: March 7, 2011 Location: Arlington, Wa Posts: 9	I have a pre 64 model 94. I can load the first round no problem. When I push the second round into the gate it stops because the gate is hitting the rim of the previous round. If I push hard with my finger on the gate it goes down rubbing on the 1st round but then I can get the next round in. Any Ideas?

January 12, 2012, 05:57 PM	#5
Edward429451 Junior member Join Date: November 12, 2000 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 9,494	I thought it was a little weird to find the gate actually holding the round in and not a device independent of the gate also. It just takes some technique and practice to load smoothly. I found that I can load it efficiently by applying more force than you may think is necessary. I use the tip of the bullet and shoot for the crack between round and gate and just force it in with a inward and forward pressure. It sounds worse than it is and really doesn't damage the bullets. When I don't baby it it lets loose and is much easier and smooth than trying to load it easily or nicely.

January 12, 2012, 06:36 PM	#6
tugger50 Junior Member Join Date: March 7, 2011 Location: Arlington, Wa Posts: 9	Thanks, that makes sense and I'm glad I'm not the only one. The 94 was given to me by my father in law and looks like it has been on more than a few hunting trips. http://norwest.weebly.com

January 12, 2012, 10:38 PM	#7
michaelcj Senior Member Join Date: June 15, 2011 Location: Lopez Island, WA Posts: 279	Most folks don't push the previous round all the way "home" and allow the head of that round [which would still be depressing the loading gate] to act as a "guide" for subsequent rounds. Repeat as necessary. MJ

January 13, 2012, 05:20 PM	#8
PetahW Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2008 Posts: 4,678	Smooth out the sharp inner/leading edge of the loading gate with a round India stone. .

January 13, 2012, 08:04 PM	#9
tugger50 Junior Member Join Date: March 7, 2011 Location: Arlington, Wa Posts: 9	Thanks, I'll try that. http://norwest.weebly.com

January 13, 2012, 09:15 PM	#10
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	I worked on quite a few of those loading gates. First, you have to smooth up the inside of the gate itself to remove burrs and take off sharp corners. Then, take some off the spring part to reduce the force required to push the gate in. Be careful doing this, as you don't want to have it break. When done right, the rounds will go in as slick as ... well whatever you think of as slick. Jim

January 13, 2012, 10:15 PM	#12
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	I was thinking of something to do with nocturnal birds. Jim

January 18, 2012, 04:37 PM	#14
chilton1990 Member Join Date: January 20, 2010 Location: Bourbon, IN Posts: 37	As slick as the roads in Northern Indiana in winter????