June 13, 2008, 01:12 PM | #1 |
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Call me crazy...
But I'd LOVE to see a Muzzleloader that looks exactly like an EBR*...or at least as close as possible. A lot on it would have to be cosmetic, of course, but whatever...I think it's an awesome idea.
Or does one already exist and I just don't know about it? *EBR = Evil Black Rifle; an Ar-15; AR-10; M-16, etc, for those unfamiliar with the initials/term...
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You know, I'd love to see that too.
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June 13, 2008, 01:46 PM | #3 |
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Let's get together and manufacture one and sell millions! What permits do we need?
Damn, I should have kept this to myself, now someone else is going to get rich off my idea.
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Guys make sure it`s at least a 10 shot ...or it won`t sell.
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Why not build it around a Remmy Cattleman's, or Buffalo?
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Doc White of the White muzzleloading company built one inline that looked just like an AK47. I don't know if it was a joke or what, damn it looked weird.
It was up for sale on the internet 4 years ago before I knew how to capture and save photos, I wish I had a photo of it. |
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OK, you're crazy.
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June 13, 2008, 06:35 PM | #9 |
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just go out and buy an ak or an ar weld it shut at the breech drill and thread a nipple hole and you'llbe ready to go, you can carry speed loaders in the magazine.
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I do wish they would make the Cattleman Revolving Carbine in .50 caliber even if it had to be 5 shot.
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I just don't understand the point? Why?
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yep, I agree w/mykeal - U are crazy!
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June 13, 2008, 10:11 PM | #14 |
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Why? Because it would be.....DIFFERENT...NEW (to me anyway)...AND AWESOME!!
I think so, anyway. I like unexpected twists, combining new & old & even older to come up with even newer and wilder things...things that when you see them it makes you wonder why you didn't think of it... You guys really don't think it would be fun to hunt with a muzzleloader AR? I would jump on that in an instant...
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ANd then Ban BP Assault Rifles?
Naaaaw! I don't think I'd like one please...Had enough black mattel toys in my hands long enough, Russian AK's too, and then sum.
Put me pack in the 19th Century with my weapons of choice, a pair a boots, Hat, saddle and a horse...Saloon Girls and Card games and I'd be happy. Weapons during the War of attrition... Battles with C&B left 3,000 to 8,000 dead on the field. Single to 6 shot rifles and revolvers, swords and knives. Now who can tell me how many rounds and how many dead were close to that in Black Rifle Times? Give ya a clue ain't near that per round. Anyway Have fun make a gun but don't get mine taken away. SG
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There is a real AR type muzzle loader that's the 3rd to last item on this page:
>>>> http://www.tromix.com/Projects_o_Tromix.htm <<<< And here's an unfired .50 Prairie River Arms Bullpup muzzle loader that was on a Gunbroker auction for $499, approaching almost double the original price. The above and more appeared in a similar thread here: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthrea...rie+river+arms |
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A lot of those died from headshots proven from archaeological digs. It wasn't all volleys fired at massed troops. More died from sickness and disease than bullets. Those were the days when an infected tooth would kill you.
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Arcticap, thanks, that's hot!
Darn, I knew I was too late. I'l make my barrel shorter tho, if at all possible. Wonder if it's possible to get a short magnum kind of thing going....
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Articap - I was thinking the same thing. The AR would be the easiest gun to build as a muzzleloader. You get a barrel and have a breechplug installed that is drilled and tapped for a nipple. You modify the bolt and firing pin for percussion caps and finally, you have to make a special capper & decapper as that tiny firing port would be hard to reach inside. Of course, with the AR you can always pull out the take-down pin and swing the lower receiver down to get access to the percussion cap. The AR's (California evil) 20-round magazine is converted into a cap box or a possibles box for your jag, stuck ball remover, spare nipples and nipple wrench.
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Yer Crazy!
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For less than the price of a custom "Evil Black Gun",
someone could dress up a factory Mossberg 500 with a pistol grip stock and then install one of their factory production muzzle loader barrels to achieve the appearance of an assault muzzle loader. Also, for 2 years or so Mossberg produced a special bullpup version of the Model 500 with a pistol grip stock, but I don't know whether the BP barrel would fit it. It probably would if the rear barrel sight was removed. It would certainly look interesting to try it. This first one has an after market muzzle device: More pictures contained in the following page & thread: The top one is an airsoft clone & the bottom is the real deal: |
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I checked with my sources and they dug up a photo of Doc White's "AK47" muzzleloader.
He has a web site, google him up and maybe he will make you one. You could attach an AK mag with super glue and you would be all set. |
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