is it me, or, have many new autoloaders gone way up in price...

Slugo · June 3, 2012, 06:19 PM

it seems like just yesterday you could purchase a new Beretta 391, Remington 1100, Browning Gold, or other equivalent guns for $800 or less. Now some of the better target autos have topped $2K!!!

CK_32 · June 3, 2012, 06:35 PM

Everything has.... Pumps rifles hand guns it's all going up. Hand guns not so much yet but they are the only ones that haven't been hiked up.

.300 Weatherby Mag · June 4, 2012, 12:27 AM

I think its pretty pathetic that the cheapest a new 1100 can be had is around $1100...

g.willikers · June 4, 2012, 08:24 AM

Remington 1100s are weird.
New ones keep getting more and more expensive, while used ones haven't changed much in price, in a long time.
It seems that there are plenty of them still around in the $250 to $400 range.

Orphanedcowboy · June 4, 2012, 11:10 AM

They haven't gone up, Obama has de-valued your dollar

RedBowTies88 · June 4, 2012, 11:12 AM

^THIS.

Great guns though the 1100's..

oldguy870 · June 4, 2012, 12:39 PM

Correction - Every sitting President (Republitard and Demoncrat), congress, and the privately owned Federal Reserve has devalued your dollar.

BigJimP · June 4, 2012, 01:13 PM

Yes, shotguns have gone up in price ...semi-autos, and O/U's, etc - unless they're being made in Turkey or China....

But at the same time ...I think the newer technology in many of the semi-autos has improved as well ...better engineering, some have better quality parts...and I think a lot of the bigger name guns are giving you a lot of gun for the money.

I see price increases as well ...in many of the better handguns too ( like Wilson Combat 1911's, S&W revolvers, etc...) ....and its affecting the pricing in the used handgun markets as well...especially on older models of guns like the S&W revolvers ( which I shoot and collect ).

But remember - the price you pay for another shotgun ( is the least expensive part of this hobby - especially if its a gun you'll have for a long time and shoot 250,000 targets or more with it ....( vs cost of targets per round, reloading components, gas, tournament entry fees, etc ).....

rhinonewshooter · June 4, 2012, 01:39 PM

funny, I just did the math on the "average" cost of a trip to the skeet range. Say 5 rounds, plus some 12 ga ammo purchased on sale, and it's real easy to spend $50 a trip. Work in some sporting clays or five stand, and the costs go up. Multiply that by an average of 2 weeks a month (give/take for summer/winter), and it's pretty easy to spend $1,200 a year on ammo and targets.

Sheesh, wish I had done this math when I was looking for an O/U. That would have pushed me to get a XS Skeet

zippy13 · June 4, 2012, 04:43 PM

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is it me, or, have many new autoloaders gone way up in price...

It's not just you. Of course, I don't keep a close eye on new gun prices -- gas is too expensive for me to take any detours, to the LGSs, on my way to the range.

oneounceload · June 4, 2012, 05:01 PM

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funny, I just did the math on the "average" cost of a trip to the skeet range. Say 5 rounds, plus some 12 ga ammo purchased on sale, and it's real easy to spend $50 a trip. Work in some sporting clays or five stand, and the costs go up. Multiply that by an average of 2 weeks a month (give/take for summer/winter), and it's pretty easy to spend $1,200 a year on ammo and targets.

Sheesh, wish I had done this math when I was looking for an O/U. That would have pushed me to get a XS Skeet

For me to shoot registered sporting, it is $100 per trip - minimum
2-3X per month and $3500 goes quickly - that's without local shooting at the smaller club, or the wife shooting, or any of the big blasts with hotels, etc.......

I am actually looking at the Beretta A400 Xcel Sporting model - even at its newer prices it is still half a basic Browning or Beretta O/U, let alone what a new P or K gun costs

Slugo · June 4, 2012, 05:11 PM

the Beretta A400 Xcel Sporting model is the auto favorite among pro shooters...

zippy13 · June 4, 2012, 05:12 PM

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I am actually looking at the Beretta A400 Xcel Sporting model - even at its newer prices it is still half a basic Browning or Beretta O/U

Stick or stack, that is the question.

If you're shooting competitively, in the long run, the gun is only a small fraction of the overall co$t. Get the gun that works best for you.

BigJimP · June 4, 2012, 05:14 PM

Yeah, but the pros are sponsored...not that they would shoot a gun they hate ....but just the same...it clouds the selection issue a little bit.

But if I wanted a gas gun ....I'd certainly not ignore the Beretta offerings..

Drummer101 · June 4, 2012, 06:08 PM

No matter what (with out a custom) a off the shelf gun does not fit, I have yet to find one that does.

So I get to look at all options

and put on an adjustable recoil pad (comb can be done with sanding or building up is not even that bad)

The stick gun is cheaper and can have less recoil while the O/U means you dont have to reach to pick up shells.

I am more of a "one gun" kind of person. But I have a long way to go before I am better than my Beretta 3901.

Slugo · June 4, 2012, 07:21 PM

3901 is the BEST value ever in an autoloader. They're hard to find these days, but still in production...

Drummer101 · June 4, 2012, 07:40 PM

But one day I will own a shotgun with wood. That A400 is rather pretty.

zippy13 · June 4, 2012, 08:28 PM

D101, IINM, you can get some Beretta wood for your 3901.

Drummer101 · June 4, 2012, 08:42 PM

For a price

Uses the same stocks as the 390 I think.

Tempting:
http://multicatch.com/

oneounceload · June 4, 2012, 09:23 PM

I am waiting for the new KO3 to be placed on their sporting models, hopefully soon - the KO3 acts more like a JS air shock than the current one in that the KO system is right behind the wrist area

Virginian · June 5, 2012, 05:09 AM

Remington has recently released some 'different' 1100s in the $6-700 price range, at least at Gander Mountain. They don't say anything; Sportsman, etc. on them other than Remington 1100. Satin - not Express gravel - finish on stock and metal. I looked at several and they looked like a decent deal for the money. The Sporting Models are very nicely finished, but expensive.
The price of shooting, especially if you want to look at least a little good doing it, has gone up considerably.

Slugo · June 5, 2012, 05:36 AM

I've seen the new 1100's at Gander. They are significantly cheaper than the bowling pin finish target models, and better looking IMHO...

PJR · June 5, 2012, 08:05 AM

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I am actually looking at the Beretta A400 Xcel Sporting model - even at its newer prices it is still half a basic Browning or Beretta O/U, let alone what a new P or K gun costs

I'm also looking very seriously at one of these. Very nice guns and worth the price IMO. Shot a 32" version over the weekend and even though I don't like the looks of them and the one I tried wasn't set up for me I shot it well enough that I'm thinking about adding one to the gun safe.

Creek Henry · June 7, 2012, 10:25 AM

Oh man, I just looked at the Benelli USA sight... you can pay over $3k for a shotgun EASILY. That seems ridiculous for an inertia gun unless you compete and earn money doing so.

I'm actually looking for a trim 20ga SA but the sp453 only comes in 12 and everything else is around $900 or more, which is not the way things were a few years ago. Prices have really gone up.

There are some 1187s on gunbroker for less but their rep isn't as stellar as the 1100s.

June 3, 2012, 06:19 PM	#1
Slugo Junior member Join Date: September 15, 2001 Location: Central PA Posts: 1,007	is it me, or, have many new autoloaders gone way up in price... it seems like just yesterday you could purchase a new Beretta 391, Remington 1100, Browning Gold, or other equivalent guns for $800 or less. Now some of the better target autos have topped $2K!!!

June 3, 2012, 06:35 PM	#2
CK_32 Senior Member Join Date: April 11, 2009 Location: Orange County, Ca Posts: 450	Everything has.... Pumps rifles hand guns it's all going up. Hand guns not so much yet but they are the only ones that haven't been hiked up. __________________ Bullet placement over bullet wastement

June 4, 2012, 08:24 AM	#4
g.willikers Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 10,442	Remington 1100s are weird. New ones keep getting more and more expensive, while used ones haven't changed much in price, in a long time. It seems that there are plenty of them still around in the $250 to $400 range. __________________ Walt Kelly, alias Pogo, sez: “Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent.”

June 4, 2012, 11:10 AM	#5
Orphanedcowboy Senior Member Join Date: April 16, 2009 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 194	They haven't gone up, Obama has de-valued your dollar __________________ NRA Life Member

June 4, 2012, 12:39 PM	#7
oldguy870 Member Join Date: June 1, 2011 Posts: 34	Correction - Every sitting President (Republitard and Demoncrat), congress, and the privately owned Federal Reserve has devalued your dollar. Last edited by oldguy870; June 4, 2012 at 12:45 PM.

June 4, 2012, 12:27 AM	#3
.300 Weatherby Mag Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2008 Posts: 1,777	I think its pretty pathetic that the cheapest a new 1100 can be had is around $1100...

June 4, 2012, 11:12 AM	#6
RedBowTies88 Senior Member Join Date: October 18, 2011 Location: 609 NJ Posts: 705	^THIS. Great guns though the 1100's..

June 4, 2012, 01:13 PM	#8
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 13,195	Yes, shotguns have gone up in price ...semi-autos, and O/U's, etc - unless they're being made in Turkey or China.... But at the same time ...I think the newer technology in many of the semi-autos has improved as well ...better engineering, some have better quality parts...and I think a lot of the bigger name guns are giving you a lot of gun for the money. I see price increases as well ...in many of the better handguns too ( like Wilson Combat 1911's, S&W revolvers, etc...) ....and its affecting the pricing in the used handgun markets as well...especially on older models of guns like the S&W revolvers ( which I shoot and collect ). But remember - the price you pay for another shotgun ( is the least expensive part of this hobby - especially if its a gun you'll have for a long time and shoot 250,000 targets or more with it ....( vs cost of targets per round, reloading components, gas, tournament entry fees, etc ).....

June 4, 2012, 01:39 PM	#9
rhinonewshooter Member Join Date: June 15, 2011 Posts: 95	funny, I just did the math on the "average" cost of a trip to the skeet range. Say 5 rounds, plus some 12 ga ammo purchased on sale, and it's real easy to spend $50 a trip. Work in some sporting clays or five stand, and the costs go up. Multiply that by an average of 2 weeks a month (give/take for summer/winter), and it's pretty easy to spend $1,200 a year on ammo and targets. Sheesh, wish I had done this math when I was looking for an O/U. That would have pushed me to get a XS Skeet

June 4, 2012, 05:11 PM	#12
Slugo Junior member Join Date: September 15, 2001 Location: Central PA Posts: 1,007	the Beretta A400 Xcel Sporting model is the auto favorite among pro shooters... Last edited by Slugo; June 4, 2012 at 05:18 PM.

June 4, 2012, 05:14 PM	#14
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 13,195	Yeah, but the pros are sponsored...not that they would shoot a gun they hate ....but just the same...it clouds the selection issue a little bit. But if I wanted a gas gun ....I'd certainly not ignore the Beretta offerings..

June 4, 2012, 06:08 PM	#15
Drummer101 Senior Member Join Date: October 22, 2009 Location: DFW Posts: 943	No matter what (with out a custom) a off the shelf gun does not fit, I have yet to find one that does. So I get to look at all options and put on an adjustable recoil pad (comb can be done with sanding or building up is not even that bad) The stick gun is cheaper and can have less recoil while the O/U means you dont have to reach to pick up shells. I am more of a "one gun" kind of person. But I have a long way to go before I am better than my Beretta 3901. __________________ "I would say that we have to make up criteria." OK, which is better for 2 Bantu, 5 Hottentots, and 3 pygmies playing a war march on a calliope at 3 a.m. during a monsoon? Show your work and round to the nearest decimal. -Mike Irwin

June 4, 2012, 07:21 PM	#16
Slugo Junior member Join Date: September 15, 2001 Location: Central PA Posts: 1,007	3901 is the BEST value ever in an autoloader. They're hard to find these days, but still in production...

June 4, 2012, 07:40 PM	#17
Drummer101 Senior Member Join Date: October 22, 2009 Location: DFW Posts: 943	But one day I will own a shotgun with wood. That A400 is rather pretty. __________________ "I would say that we have to make up criteria." OK, which is better for 2 Bantu, 5 Hottentots, and 3 pygmies playing a war march on a calliope at 3 a.m. during a monsoon? Show your work and round to the nearest decimal. -Mike Irwin

June 4, 2012, 08:28 PM	#18
zippy13 Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,442	D101, IINM, you can get some Beretta wood for your 3901.

June 4, 2012, 08:42 PM	#19
Drummer101 Senior Member Join Date: October 22, 2009 Location: DFW Posts: 943	For a price Uses the same stocks as the 390 I think. Tempting: http://multicatch.com/ __________________ "I would say that we have to make up criteria." OK, which is better for 2 Bantu, 5 Hottentots, and 3 pygmies playing a war march on a calliope at 3 a.m. during a monsoon? Show your work and round to the nearest decimal. -Mike Irwin Last edited by Drummer101; June 4, 2012 at 09:03 PM.

June 4, 2012, 09:23 PM	#20
oneounceload Junior member Join Date: April 18, 2008 Location: N. Central Florida Posts: 8,518	I am waiting for the new KO3 to be placed on their sporting models, hopefully soon - the KO3 acts more like a JS air shock than the current one in that the KO system is right behind the wrist area

June 5, 2012, 05:09 AM	#21
Virginian Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2012 Location: Williamsburg, Va. Posts: 1,528	Remington has recently released some 'different' 1100s in the $6-700 price range, at least at Gander Mountain. They don't say anything; Sportsman, etc. on them other than Remington 1100. Satin - not Express gravel - finish on stock and metal. I looked at several and they looked like a decent deal for the money. The Sporting Models are very nicely finished, but expensive. The price of shooting, especially if you want to look at least a little good doing it, has gone up considerably.

June 5, 2012, 05:36 AM	#22
Slugo Junior member Join Date: September 15, 2001 Location: Central PA Posts: 1,007	I've seen the new 1100's at Gander. They are significantly cheaper than the bowling pin finish target models, and better looking IMHO...

June 7, 2012, 10:25 AM	#24
Creek Henry Senior Member Join Date: October 23, 2009 Location: Dallas Posts: 514	Oh man, I just looked at the Benelli USA sight... you can pay over $3k for a shotgun EASILY. That seems ridiculous for an inertia gun unless you compete and earn money doing so. I'm actually looking for a trim 20ga SA but the sp453 only comes in 12 and everything else is around $900 or more, which is not the way things were a few years ago. Prices have really gone up. There are some 1187s on gunbroker for less but their rep isn't as stellar as the 1100s.

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