Fiocchi Ammo Design

microtech · October 14, 2010, 04:25 PM

I recently purchased a 50 round box of fiocchi extrema XTP 9mm 124gr JHP ammo. upon inspecting the cartridges i realized that they are approximately 1mm shorter in length than all the other 9mm ammo i have. Does anyone know anything about this or if it will cause any problems. I was under impression that 9mm were supposed to be 29mm in length. Are there tolerances i am unaware of? it seems this could cause loading probs?

IXLR8 · October 14, 2010, 04:59 PM

I have fired a couple of boxes of it through a Glock 34, HK P30, and a CZ-75 SP-1. I did not have any failure to feeds. Matter of fact my accuracy was a little better with it, than the normal Winchester white box at the range. They had a blowout price online and I bought 20 boxes. I am not sorry about the decision. I may buy a 1000 rounds if I can get the same price.

Wishoot · October 14, 2010, 05:20 PM

I have shot around 200 + rounds of the very same ammo and have not had a single problem.

NWPilgrim · October 14, 2010, 05:37 PM

The max overall length is 1.169" which is about 29.7mm. It can be as short as is safe for the powder loaded and will function in your pistol.

The Hornady reloading manual shows loads with a cartridge overall length of as little as 1.050" or 26.7mm.

Willie D · October 14, 2010, 06:42 PM

FWIW, Fiocchi .380 FMJ has a shorter OAL than most other .380 FMJ ammo I've bought and has a less connical, more rounded bullet that works A LOT better in my PPK.

VTRich · October 14, 2010, 07:20 PM

I really like the Fiocchi Extrema line of ammo. Hornady XTP Bullets, and it looks like they use Starline Brass. I use it in .380 and 9mm and it has always been totally reliable, and it's half the price of most defense ammo.

microtech · October 14, 2010, 07:48 PM

i've noticed that that fiocchi's come much cleaner than other brands such as winchester, remington, and american eagle. I wonder if that is any indicator to the quality of fiocchis bullets?

jrothWA · October 14, 2010, 07:51 PM

from the base to the flat (meplat) of the HP opening.
This will give a shorter OAL for the cartridge.

THe CASE must meet SAAMI spec or there will be poor head-spacing.

THE fiocchi is a reliable line of ammo, wish thye madr the 140 gr .357 XTP in the .38Spl load. (non +P) for that shoots to POA in my J & K frames.

October 14, 2010, 04:25 PM	#1
microtech Senior Member Join Date: July 27, 2009 Posts: 106	Fiocchi Ammo Design I recently purchased a 50 round box of fiocchi extrema XTP 9mm 124gr JHP ammo. upon inspecting the cartridges i realized that they are approximately 1mm shorter in length than all the other 9mm ammo i have. Does anyone know anything about this or if it will cause any problems. I was under impression that 9mm were supposed to be 29mm in length. Are there tolerances i am unaware of? it seems this could cause loading probs?

October 14, 2010, 05:37 PM	#4
NWPilgrim Senior Member Join Date: September 29, 2008 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,346	The max overall length is 1.169" which is about 29.7mm. It can be as short as is safe for the powder loaded and will function in your pistol. The Hornady reloading manual shows loads with a cartridge overall length of as little as 1.050" or 26.7mm. __________________ "The ultimate authority ... resides in the people alone. ... The advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation ... forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition." - James Madison

October 14, 2010, 07:51 PM	#8
jrothWA Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 2006 Posts: 2,519	XTP bullets are shorter in height/length... from the base to the flat (meplat) of the HP opening. This will give a shorter OAL for the cartridge. THe CASE must meet SAAMI spec or there will be poor head-spacing. THE fiocchi is a reliable line of ammo, wish thye madr the 140 gr .357 XTP in the .38Spl load. (non +P) for that shoots to POA in my J & K frames.

October 14, 2010, 04:59 PM	#2
IXLR8 Senior Member Join Date: May 17, 2009 Posts: 107	I have fired a couple of boxes of it through a Glock 34, HK P30, and a CZ-75 SP-1. I did not have any failure to feeds. Matter of fact my accuracy was a little better with it, than the normal Winchester white box at the range. They had a blowout price online and I bought 20 boxes. I am not sorry about the decision. I may buy a 1000 rounds if I can get the same price.

October 14, 2010, 05:20 PM	#3
Wishoot Senior Member Join Date: June 5, 2009 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 1,093	I have shot around 200 + rounds of the very same ammo and have not had a single problem.

October 14, 2010, 06:42 PM	#5
Willie D Senior Member Join Date: June 24, 2007 Posts: 1,149	FWIW, Fiocchi .380 FMJ has a shorter OAL than most other .380 FMJ ammo I've bought and has a less connical, more rounded bullet that works A LOT better in my PPK.

October 14, 2010, 07:20 PM	#6
VTRich Senior Member Join Date: October 3, 2005 Location: Vermont Posts: 288	I really like the Fiocchi Extrema line of ammo. Hornady XTP Bullets, and it looks like they use Starline Brass. I use it in .380 and 9mm and it has always been totally reliable, and it's half the price of most defense ammo.

October 14, 2010, 07:48 PM	#7
microtech Senior Member Join Date: July 27, 2009 Posts: 106	i've noticed that that fiocchi's come much cleaner than other brands such as winchester, remington, and american eagle. I wonder if that is any indicator to the quality of fiocchis bullets?