What is this I don't even...

Balog · August 16, 2011, 01:38 PM

Ran across an incredibly scary video of some "training" recently. No idea what company this is, but I cringed and winced even before they started getting dangerous. Just a little reminder to append "quality" before the "training" when giving a newbie the advice to get trained if they want to get armed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omkfit4NK_A

Ultravox · August 16, 2011, 01:46 PM

Wow, just wow.

0:50 was a little scary.

1:14 is when I couldn't believe what I was seeing.

Pixuma · August 16, 2011, 02:12 PM

O_O

That's gotta be some kind of joke...

Balog · August 16, 2011, 02:24 PM

Looked into it a bit more, and sadly it is not a joke. Here are a few blogs discussing this.

http://booksbikesboomsticks.blogspot...boy-rules.html

http://onlygunsandmoney.blogspot.com...s+and+Money%29

This one has some naughty language, fyi

http://www.papadeltabravo.com/blog/?p=1221

Kimbertron · August 16, 2011, 02:50 PM

I want to learn how to pull out my ninja knives and pose like the guy at the end

Pbearperry · August 16, 2011, 02:51 PM

No doubt if these morons do this enough,there will be tragic results.

manta49 · August 16, 2011, 03:02 PM

What a bunch of tos**s only a mater of time before one shoots himself or someone else ,embarsing to watch.

chadstrickland · August 16, 2011, 03:29 PM

Yikes

Unless those folks where like seal team six ( which I know they ain't ) then I wouldn't want to be anywhere near those people while anyone of them had a gun near them

myshoulderissore · August 16, 2011, 03:29 PM

I thought it was a "bit" ludicrous watching it, thinking it was a team training together... Then I read and saw it was a class. Holy christ, I wouldn't train like that with my best buds knowing their crap, let alone some random moron with too much money. Wow, nice find here.

markj · August 16, 2011, 04:17 PM

What was with the 2 guys spinning and shooting at a target the other was already facing? or falling down shooting while a guy behind you is shooting?

Is this common now in these training classes?

spclPatrolGroup · August 16, 2011, 04:35 PM

Don't worry I am sure Darwin will come to the rescue.

C0untZer0 · August 16, 2011, 04:36 PM

I know a megalomaniac when I hear one.

Bill Beasley is a megalomaniac.

Only an ego maniac would be so out of touch with reality that they actually would reach this point. It requires extreme hubris to come up with schemes like this. Eventually someone will get killed at American Defense Enterprises, and they will get sued, the whole thing will come apart like a house of cards when actual firearms instructors testify to the gross stupidity that occurred at ADE. I also think that will be the time when it will come out that these so called instructors lack credibility and have no qualifications to be training others.

aarondhgraham · August 16, 2011, 04:53 PM

I have a friend who is an NRA certified instructor,,,
He was talking a while back about Recreational Training Schools.

Those were his words.

Apparently people all over the nation are setting up training classes,,,
Sort of like a weekend at Disneyland but with guns,,,
Their purpose is to entertain rather than train,,,
They are commercial outfits out after a buck.

Just think how empowered you would feel,,,
After a weekend of spinning with and shooting your guns.

I really didn't mean for that to be as sarcastic as it will read,,,
But the problem is that a normal person has no sure way of knowing,,,
If the school he is looking at is a good school or one run by mall commandos.

Heck, I have two college degrees,,,
Both of them in occupational education,,,
My credentials would look good on a website.

All I have to do is brush cut my hair and buy some black t-shirts.

Dang!,,,
There's my retirement business.

Aarond

Aarond

TylerD45ACP · August 16, 2011, 05:04 PM

They were blowing rounds by eachothers head and such. Wow.

I saw three people nearly get shot in the head at least.

OcSpeed · August 16, 2011, 05:20 PM

I can't find it (google-fu broken) but have you seen the videos of the Romanians or or some secret police agency shooting at boards held by hand or between the legs of their comrades? That makes these mall ninja moves look safe.

maxman894 · August 16, 2011, 08:42 PM

I was laughing until I saw them crossing in front of each other while bullets were going downrange, and the "tactical fall while your buddy shoots them" crap. Then it just made me very angry that someone would try to tell people to do this on the street.

X_shooter · August 16, 2011, 08:50 PM

oh man. I had to watch this twice. My brain could not register what was happening. The handheld camera in the live fire room was priceless. Nothing like a bunch of students with live rounds running at you shooting.

pax · August 16, 2011, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Is this common now in these training classes?

Not just no, but HELL NO.

pax

**Tom Servo** · August 16, 2011, 09:09 PM

Now I know what "tactical" means.

I also understand why I detest the very term.

egor20 · August 16, 2011, 09:14 PM

I haven't used strong language since I left the Navy but...................................

EdInk · August 16, 2011, 09:20 PM

The Benny Hill music, title "Do not do this" and being categorized as "comedy" didn't get noticed by anyone else?

C0untZer0 · August 16, 2011, 09:27 PM

The Benny Hill music was classic - the only thing it lacked was a huge chested woman busting out of her brazzier being chased by an old man...

Discern · August 16, 2011, 09:45 PM

Watching this sends chills up my spine. Their grip, form and muzzle control needs work. You would think they would have these perfected doing this "training", but I guess that is too boring. That is a great grip at 1:40 - NOT. Makes you wonder how scary is the firearm handling of the other students who did not make the video.

Discern · August 16, 2011, 09:53 PM

I took a look at their website. It appears the people in the video are the instructors. That makes things even scarier.

gidds · August 16, 2011, 10:09 PM

Just placed and order for black BDU's and Ninja knives......I'm on my way......

Anyone care to dance in front of me while I practice.........

August 16, 2011, 01:38 PM	#1
Balog Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 2004 Posts: 259	What is this I don't even... Ran across an incredibly scary video of some "training" recently. No idea what company this is, but I cringed and winced even before they started getting dangerous. Just a little reminder to append "quality" before the "training" when giving a newbie the advice to get trained if they want to get armed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omkfit4NK_A

August 16, 2011, 01:46 PM	#2
Ultravox Member Join Date: January 11, 2011 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 75	Wow, just wow. 0:50 was a little scary. 1:14 is when I couldn't believe what I was seeing. __________________ Come check out my custom 1911 grips and other wooden items at my Etsy store.

August 16, 2011, 03:29 PM	#8
chadstrickland Senior Member Join Date: January 26, 2011 Location: alabama Posts: 537	Yikes Unless those folks where like seal team six ( which I know they ain't ) then I wouldn't want to be anywhere near those people while anyone of them had a gun near them __________________ Two weapons that was designed by the same man still in use by the us military 100 years later...1911 and m2...is there anything that comes close.....lol annd maybe perhaps a sig sauer p226 tac ops edition..

August 16, 2011, 04:53 PM	#13
aarondhgraham Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2009 Location: Stillwater, OKlahoma Posts: 8,638	It's like Band Camp,,, I have a friend who is an NRA certified instructor,,, He was talking a while back about Recreational Training Schools. Those were his words. Apparently people all over the nation are setting up training classes,,, Sort of like a weekend at Disneyland but with guns,,, Their purpose is to entertain rather than train,,, They are commercial outfits out after a buck. Just think how empowered you would feel,,, After a weekend of spinning with and shooting your guns. I really didn't mean for that to be as sarcastic as it will read,,, But the problem is that a normal person has no sure way of knowing,,, If the school he is looking at is a good school or one run by mall commandos. Heck, I have two college degrees,,, Both of them in occupational education,,, My credentials would look good on a website. All I have to do is brush cut my hair and buy some black t-shirts. Dang!,,, There's my retirement business. Aarond Aarond __________________ Never ever give an enemy the advantage of a verbal threat. Caje: The coward dies a thousand times, the brave only once. Kirby: That's about all it takes, ain't it? Aarond is good,,, Aarond is wise,,, Always trust Aarond! (most of the time)

August 16, 2011, 08:50 PM	#17
X_shooter Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 274	oh man. I had to watch this twice. My brain could not register what was happening. The handheld camera in the live fire room was priceless. Nothing like a bunch of students with live rounds running at you shooting. __________________ X_shooter

August 16, 2011, 02:12 PM	#3
Pixuma Member Join Date: July 24, 2011 Posts: 24	O_O That's gotta be some kind of joke...

August 16, 2011, 02:24 PM	#4
Balog Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 2004 Posts: 259	Looked into it a bit more, and sadly it is not a joke. Here are a few blogs discussing this. http://booksbikesboomsticks.blogspot...boy-rules.html http://onlygunsandmoney.blogspot.com...s+and+Money%29 This one has some naughty language, fyi http://www.papadeltabravo.com/blog/?p=1221

August 16, 2011, 02:50 PM	#5
Kimbertron Senior Member Join Date: August 11, 2011 Location: Middle of nowhere Posts: 287	I want to learn how to pull out my ninja knives and pose like the guy at the end

August 16, 2011, 02:51 PM	#6
Pbearperry Senior Member Join Date: December 9, 2008 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 283	No doubt if these morons do this enough,there will be tragic results.

August 16, 2011, 03:02 PM	#7
manta49 Senior Member Join Date: July 15, 2011 Location: N Ireland. UK. Posts: 1,809	What a bunch of tos**s only a mater of time before one shoots himself or someone else ,embarsing to watch.

August 16, 2011, 03:29 PM	#9
myshoulderissore Senior Member Join Date: September 12, 2010 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 447	I thought it was a "bit" ludicrous watching it, thinking it was a team training together... Then I read and saw it was a class. Holy christ, I wouldn't train like that with my best buds knowing their crap, let alone some random moron with too much money. Wow, nice find here.

August 16, 2011, 04:17 PM	#10
markj Senior Member Join Date: October 27, 2005 Location: Crescent Iowa Posts: 2,971	What was with the 2 guys spinning and shooting at a target the other was already facing? or falling down shooting while a guy behind you is shooting? Is this common now in these training classes?

August 16, 2011, 04:35 PM	#11
spclPatrolGroup Senior Member Join Date: August 19, 2010 Location: North Dakota Posts: 349	Don't worry I am sure Darwin will come to the rescue.

August 16, 2011, 04:36 PM	#12
C0untZer0 Junior member Join Date: April 21, 2011 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,555	I know a megalomaniac when I hear one. Bill Beasley is a megalomaniac. Only an ego maniac would be so out of touch with reality that they actually would reach this point. It requires extreme hubris to come up with schemes like this. Eventually someone will get killed at American Defense Enterprises, and they will get sued, the whole thing will come apart like a house of cards when actual firearms instructors testify to the gross stupidity that occurred at ADE. I also think that will be the time when it will come out that these so called instructors lack credibility and have no qualifications to be training others.

August 16, 2011, 05:04 PM	#14
TylerD45ACP Senior Member Join Date: July 16, 2010 Posts: 1,654	They were blowing rounds by eachothers head and such. Wow. I saw three people nearly get shot in the head at least.

August 16, 2011, 05:20 PM	#15
OcSpeed Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2009 Location: the greater unknown Posts: 123	I can't find it (google-fu broken) but have you seen the videos of the Romanians or or some secret police agency shooting at boards held by hand or between the legs of their comrades? That makes these mall ninja moves look safe.

August 16, 2011, 08:42 PM	#16
maxman894 Senior Member Join Date: July 2, 2011 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 141	I was laughing until I saw them crossing in front of each other while bullets were going downrange, and the "tactical fall while your buddy shoots them" crap. Then it just made me very angry that someone would try to tell people to do this on the street.

August 16, 2011, 09:09 PM	#19
Tom Servo Staff Join Date: September 27, 2008 Location: Foothills of the Appalachians Posts: 13,059	Now I know what "tactical" means. I also understand why I detest the very term. __________________ Sometimes it’s nice not to destroy the world for a change. --Randall Munroe

August 16, 2011, 09:14 PM	#20
egor20 Senior Member Join Date: November 14, 2010 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,824	I haven't used strong language since I left the Navy but................................... __________________ Chief stall mucker and grain chef Country don't mean dumb. Steven King. The Stand

August 16, 2011, 09:20 PM	#21
EdInk Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2009 Posts: 3,968	The Benny Hill music, title "Do not do this" and being categorized as "comedy" didn't get noticed by anyone else? __________________ Sic Semper Tyrannis

August 16, 2011, 09:27 PM	#22
C0untZer0 Junior member Join Date: April 21, 2011 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,555	The Benny Hill music was classic - the only thing it lacked was a huge chested woman busting out of her brazzier being chased by an old man...

August 16, 2011, 09:45 PM	#23
Discern Senior Member Join Date: July 30, 2011 Posts: 471	Watching this sends chills up my spine. Their grip, form and muzzle control needs work. You would think they would have these perfected doing this "training", but I guess that is too boring. That is a great grip at 1:40 - NOT. Makes you wonder how scary is the firearm handling of the other students who did not make the video.

August 16, 2011, 09:53 PM	#24
Discern Senior Member Join Date: July 30, 2011 Posts: 471	Instructors? I took a look at their website. It appears the people in the video are the instructors. That makes things even scarier.

August 16, 2011, 10:09 PM	#25
gidds Member Join Date: February 8, 2008 Posts: 25	Just placed and order for black BDU's and Ninja knives......I'm on my way...... Anyone care to dance in front of me while I practice.........

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