Polish Model 64

Renfield · June 19, 2006, 09:24 PM

Polish Makarov 64 9MM Makarov Caliber (9x18) $139.95 ( 2 or more... $129.95 ea.)
Unissued… Beautiful… and NEVER imported to the U.S. before! These are very rare pistols and are sure thing for collectors. These are new condition pistols in powerful 9x18 caliber.

RETAIL: $279.00
#SHG-P64
NOT FOR SALE IN CALIFORNIA

from http://www.southernohiogun.com/surplushandguns.html

Teakwood · June 20, 2006, 04:53 AM

Blah Blah Blah

Renfield · June 20, 2006, 06:40 AM

yeah I know..it isn't a Makarov

just chambered in the Makarov caliber

jhgreasemonkey · June 20, 2006, 01:13 PM

The p64 has a very difficult first trigger pull. If you have strong hands then it wont be a problem. And so you are aware it is not a true makarov. It is a copy polish version. Other than those 2 its supposed to be reliable and sturdy. I have a hungarian pa63 9x18 makarov. It is a hungarian copy of the walther made by FEG. These copys are easy to find parts and accesories for. Makarov.com carries them. That one is preffered over the polish p64 by most and is the same price. I would go with that one but really for that price you cant kick yourself too much if you dont like it. If you get it let us know what you think. I have been thinking about picking one up.

essexcounty · June 20, 2006, 03:06 PM

I know they aren't perfect ( trigger pull ) and so forth, but the last time I took my wife out to dinner it cost this much. Two cocktails, no wine. I see it as good value in today's market...........Essex

kirkcdl · June 20, 2006, 06:03 PM

Trigger jobs on these are easy- http://p64.home.insightbb.com/main.htm -it makes the trigger a lot better,too...

Wrangler5 · June 20, 2006, 06:08 PM

I had a chance to try a P64 a few weekends ago. I was expecting a heavy DA pull from all I'd read, but I did NOT expect to be completely unable to set it off with my trigger finger alone. I couldn't believe it - I've never experienced anything like it in the 50+ years I've been shooting pistols. It took help from my other index finger to get the hammer to release on the first round. Single action pull was just fine, though, as most of the reports say. Recoil was much more unpleasant than a Makarov, almost as uncomfortable as my KelTec P3AT. I don't see myself practicing much with a P64 if I had one, which is why I don't have one - despite how cheap they are.

The spring replacement fix for this would be an absolute necessity if you're going to carry one. Supposedly that makes it into a fairly "normal" DA/SA gun.

amd6547 · June 20, 2006, 08:14 PM

The P64 is my low profile CCW pistol in a retail situation. Mine started with the heavy double action. While many switch out hammer springs, I have found that lubrication and use have lowered the pull to a very usable weight.
On the P64 board, a currently serving polish military officer stated that the heavy pull was intentional to deal with hard primered SMG ammo used in poland.
I much prefer the all steel construction of the P64 to the alloy frame FEG P63.
The P64 is also thinner and shorter--with a simple IWB clip-on holster, I find it conceals under just about anything--even a Tshirt.
Finally, I have about 200 rounds through mine, consisting of silver bear 115gn JHP's, hornady JHP's, and both fiocchi and S&B FMJ's without a single jam of any kind. With any of those rounds, I can hit a pop can at 25 yards with every shot.
My advise--buy one while you can, I believe these will go up in value when they are all sold.

Renfield · June 21, 2006, 01:52 PM

does it feed hollowpoints reliably ?

amd6547 · June 22, 2006, 01:21 PM

I have fired silver bear 115gn JHP and Hornady JHP with no problems. In the mak caliber, I am satisfied with FMJ, in any case.

Renfield · June 22, 2006, 01:26 PM

not me..I gotta have hollowpoints

SouthpawShootr · June 22, 2006, 08:18 PM

I've got 2. The most recently acquired was made in 1974. My first one was made in 1968. I like them, not as much as my East German and Bulgarian Makarovs though. They look to be well made. I paid $180 OTD for each. Just ordered a couple of Polish military holsters for them also. A gunsmith I use regularly thinks very highly of them (he's got several, one of which is his truck gun). Only real concern I have is parts availability.

amd6547 · June 22, 2006, 09:16 PM

Mine is also a 1974 model. It tickles me that the year I was getting my high school diploma, this pistol was brand new and unobtainable in America.
As for hollowpoints, in the mak, I like the penetration of the FMJ. I often carry it in my P64 and the CZ82 which has become favorite pistol.

Tommy Vercetti · June 20, 2007, 12:47 PM

do any manufacturers make 9x18 Makarov caliber hollowpoints ?

Manedwolf · June 20, 2007, 12:50 PM

Quote:

I have a hungarian pa63 9x18 makarov. It is a hungarian copy of the walther made by FEG. These copys are easy to find parts and accesories for. Makarov.com carries them. That one is preffered over the polish p64 by most and is the same price.

Not by me! The PA-63 is a horrid little snappy thing that's an excellent way to develop a bad flinch. It's like firing a high-caliber derringer. Least fun gun I've ever fired.

Rimrod · June 20, 2007, 02:33 PM

kirkcdl, Thanks for that link. My son just bought one on his 21st birthday and when I tried it I knew that DA trigger had to go.

Then I just have to do something with those grips.

Onapar · June 20, 2007, 02:49 PM

I have had mine for a few years, A new sixteen pound hammer spring has made it perfect. Never a ftf or fte a clip on has made this my carry gun no matter what I wear it hides.
Get one while you can.

Doyle · June 20, 2007, 03:32 PM

I've got one. After changing out the hammer and recoil springs it is now my favorite SD pistol. If I could get another one at that price, I'd jump on it like ugly on an ape. However, after paying shipping and transfer fee, it would bump the price up to more than I could justify.

Side note, if anybody in SW Florida has a P64 they want to unload at that kind of price, I'd love to do a FTF transaction.

denfoote · June 20, 2007, 06:21 PM

Quote:

do any manufacturers make 9x18 Makarov caliber hollowpoints ?

Hornady is the only one I know of domestically.

95gr XTP.

https://www.hornady.com/shop/?ps_ses...51361a7b3b2aba

saands · June 20, 2007, 08:22 PM

You can also get JHP in several of the imported flavors (I know that Silver Bear makes them) ... some P64's don't like HP rounds our of the box, but all can be made to like them quite easily ... see the above link to a site with lots of P64 info. They are a great value and are just about the smallest import that has been let in the country in a long time...

Saands

Black Adder LXX · June 20, 2007, 10:29 PM

I got one last weekend. Plan to switch out a couple of springs to ease felt recoil and DA pull. Easy and cheap to do. Check out the P64 forums

This gun fits my hand nice, too. I love the mag release on the bottom, the sturdy construction and the size. I'm going to make it work... I prefer the feel to many newer CCW pistols.

oldbillthundercheif · June 20, 2007, 11:01 PM

I had one for a while. They are mean little bastards to shoot, but mine was 100% reliable with every flavor of 9x18 I could dig up (2 HP loads and half a dozen FMJ loadings).

I wouldn't pay more than $100 for one. Watch that the fingers and knuckles of your left hand are not too close to the muzzle when you shoot... it can feel like getting whacked with a ruler by a muscular nun.

Jehzsa · June 21, 2007, 12:49 PM

Quote:

On the P64 board, a currently serving polish military officer stated that the heavy pull was intentional to deal with hard primered SMG ammo used in poland.

This is not only a classic, but also quite entertaining. SMG ammo through a P-64. Sure, why not! And stated by a military officer nonetheless. A fingerless/handless military officer I assume.

Just wondering, did anyone call it on him? Because that's as much crap as a keyboard can take.

SMG ammo. Yeah, right!

Renfield · July 7, 2007, 08:30 AM

thanks guys..I'll buy one next time I see one

kirkcdl · July 7, 2007, 08:55 AM

Rimrod,here's a really good source for exotic grips:http://dnmars.43i.net

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June 19, 2006, 09:24 PM	#1
Renfield Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2006 Location: just down the street Posts: 599	Polish Model 64 Polish Makarov 64 9MM Makarov Caliber (9x18) $139.95 ( 2 or more... $129.95 ea.) Unissued… Beautiful… and NEVER imported to the U.S. before! These are very rare pistols and are sure thing for collectors. These are new condition pistols in powerful 9x18 caliber. RETAIL: $279.00 #SHG-P64 NOT FOR SALE IN CALIFORNIA from http://www.southernohiogun.com/surplushandguns.html __________________ "Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools, that don't have brains enough to be honest" Benjamin Franklin "In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends" Martin Luther King, Jr. "Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero

June 20, 2006, 06:40 AM	#3
Renfield Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2006 Location: just down the street Posts: 599	yeah I know..it isn't a Makarov just chambered in the Makarov caliber __________________ "Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools, that don't have brains enough to be honest" Benjamin Franklin "In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends" Martin Luther King, Jr. "Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero

June 21, 2006, 01:52 PM	#9
Renfield Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2006 Location: just down the street Posts: 599	does it feed hollowpoints reliably ? __________________ "Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools, that don't have brains enough to be honest" Benjamin Franklin "In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends" Martin Luther King, Jr. "Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero

June 22, 2006, 01:26 PM	#11
Renfield Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2006 Location: just down the street Posts: 599	not me..I gotta have hollowpoints __________________ "Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools, that don't have brains enough to be honest" Benjamin Franklin "In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends" Martin Luther King, Jr. "Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero

June 20, 2006, 04:53 AM	#2
Teakwood Member Join Date: January 20, 2005 Location: New Mexico Posts: 94	Blah Blah Blah

June 20, 2006, 01:13 PM	#4
jhgreasemonkey Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 2006 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 2,238	The p64 has a very difficult first trigger pull. If you have strong hands then it wont be a problem. And so you are aware it is not a true makarov. It is a copy polish version. Other than those 2 its supposed to be reliable and sturdy. I have a hungarian pa63 9x18 makarov. It is a hungarian copy of the walther made by FEG. These copys are easy to find parts and accesories for. Makarov.com carries them. That one is preffered over the polish p64 by most and is the same price. I would go with that one but really for that price you cant kick yourself too much if you dont like it. If you get it let us know what you think. I have been thinking about picking one up.

June 20, 2006, 03:06 PM	#5
essexcounty Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2005 Posts: 646	I know they aren't perfect ( trigger pull ) and so forth, but the last time I took my wife out to dinner it cost this much. Two cocktails, no wine. I see it as good value in today's market...........Essex

June 20, 2006, 06:03 PM	#6
kirkcdl Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2002 Location: Roseburg,ORYGUN Posts: 821	Trigger jobs on these are easy- http://p64.home.insightbb.com/main.htm -it makes the trigger a lot better,too...

June 20, 2006, 06:08 PM	#7
Wrangler5 Senior Member Join Date: September 18, 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 326	I had a chance to try a P64 a few weekends ago. I was expecting a heavy DA pull from all I'd read, but I did NOT expect to be completely unable to set it off with my trigger finger alone. I couldn't believe it - I've never experienced anything like it in the 50+ years I've been shooting pistols. It took help from my other index finger to get the hammer to release on the first round. Single action pull was just fine, though, as most of the reports say. Recoil was much more unpleasant than a Makarov, almost as uncomfortable as my KelTec P3AT. I don't see myself practicing much with a P64 if I had one, which is why I don't have one - despite how cheap they are. The spring replacement fix for this would be an absolute necessity if you're going to carry one. Supposedly that makes it into a fairly "normal" DA/SA gun.

June 20, 2006, 08:14 PM	#8
amd6547 Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2006 Posts: 2,313	The P64 is my low profile CCW pistol in a retail situation. Mine started with the heavy double action. While many switch out hammer springs, I have found that lubrication and use have lowered the pull to a very usable weight. On the P64 board, a currently serving polish military officer stated that the heavy pull was intentional to deal with hard primered SMG ammo used in poland. I much prefer the all steel construction of the P64 to the alloy frame FEG P63. The P64 is also thinner and shorter--with a simple IWB clip-on holster, I find it conceals under just about anything--even a Tshirt. Finally, I have about 200 rounds through mine, consisting of silver bear 115gn JHP's, hornady JHP's, and both fiocchi and S&B FMJ's without a single jam of any kind. With any of those rounds, I can hit a pop can at 25 yards with every shot. My advise--buy one while you can, I believe these will go up in value when they are all sold.

June 22, 2006, 01:21 PM	#10
amd6547 Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2006 Posts: 2,313	I have fired silver bear 115gn JHP and Hornady JHP with no problems. In the mak caliber, I am satisfied with FMJ, in any case.

June 22, 2006, 08:18 PM	#12
SouthpawShootr Senior Member Join Date: January 11, 2002 Location: Chesapeake, Va Posts: 887	I've got 2. The most recently acquired was made in 1974. My first one was made in 1968. I like them, not as much as my East German and Bulgarian Makarovs though. They look to be well made. I paid $180 OTD for each. Just ordered a couple of Polish military holsters for them also. A gunsmith I use regularly thinks very highly of them (he's got several, one of which is his truck gun). Only real concern I have is parts availability.

June 22, 2006, 09:16 PM	#13
amd6547 Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2006 Posts: 2,313	Mine is also a 1974 model. It tickles me that the year I was getting my high school diploma, this pistol was brand new and unobtainable in America. As for hollowpoints, in the mak, I like the penetration of the FMJ. I often carry it in my P64 and the CZ82 which has become favorite pistol.

June 20, 2007, 12:47 PM	#14
Tommy Vercetti Senior Member Join Date: June 26, 2004 Location: Fairhope, Alabama Posts: 1,119	do any manufacturers make 9x18 Makarov caliber hollowpoints ? __________________ "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross." Sinclair Lewis, (It Can't Happen Here, 1935) "Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero

June 20, 2007, 02:33 PM	#16
Rimrod Senior Member Join Date: October 19, 2005 Location: Behind enemy lines Posts: 1,309	kirkcdl, Thanks for that link. My son just bought one on his 21st birthday and when I tried it I knew that DA trigger had to go. Then I just have to do something with those grips.

June 20, 2007, 02:49 PM	#17
Onapar Senior Member Join Date: November 12, 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 117	carry gun I have had mine for a few years, A new sixteen pound hammer spring has made it perfect. Never a ftf or fte a clip on has made this my carry gun no matter what I wear it hides. Get one while you can.

June 20, 2007, 03:32 PM	#18
Doyle Senior Member Join Date: June 20, 2007 Location: Rainbow City, Alabama Posts: 7,167	I've got one. After changing out the hammer and recoil springs it is now my favorite SD pistol. If I could get another one at that price, I'd jump on it like ugly on an ape. However, after paying shipping and transfer fee, it would bump the price up to more than I could justify. Side note, if anybody in SW Florida has a P64 they want to unload at that kind of price, I'd love to do a FTF transaction.

June 20, 2007, 08:22 PM	#20
saands Senior Member Join Date: November 14, 1999 Posts: 1,573	You can also get JHP in several of the imported flavors (I know that Silver Bear makes them) ... some P64's don't like HP rounds our of the box, but all can be made to like them quite easily ... see the above link to a site with lots of P64 info. They are a great value and are just about the smallest import that has been let in the country in a long time... Saands

June 20, 2007, 10:29 PM	#21
Black Adder LXX Senior Member Join Date: April 25, 2007 Location: The DEEP South Posts: 293	I got one last weekend. Plan to switch out a couple of springs to ease felt recoil and DA pull. Easy and cheap to do. Check out the P64 forums This gun fits my hand nice, too. I love the mag release on the bottom, the sturdy construction and the size. I'm going to make it work... I prefer the feel to many newer CCW pistols. __________________ "In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress." - John Adams

June 20, 2007, 11:01 PM	#22
oldbillthundercheif Junior member Join Date: April 21, 2006 Location: New Orleans Posts: 2,450	I had one for a while. They are mean little bastards to shoot, but mine was 100% reliable with every flavor of 9x18 I could dig up (2 HP loads and half a dozen FMJ loadings). I wouldn't pay more than $100 for one. Watch that the fingers and knuckles of your left hand are not too close to the muzzle when you shoot... it can feel like getting whacked with a ruler by a muscular nun.

July 7, 2007, 08:30 AM	#24
Renfield Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2006 Location: just down the street Posts: 599	thanks guys..I'll buy one next time I see one __________________ "Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools, that don't have brains enough to be honest" Benjamin Franklin "In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends" Martin Luther King, Jr. "Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero

July 7, 2007, 08:55 AM	#25
kirkcdl Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2002 Location: Roseburg,ORYGUN Posts: 821	Rimrod,here's a really good source for exotic grips:http://dnmars.43i.net