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February 1, 2016, 12:31 PM | #1 |
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Cleaning a Beretta 84BB
So, I'm a newish gun owner, with a firm grip of common sense and not much else! I got a great deal on a 1990 Beretta 84BB, and promptly snapped it up. Of course I disassembled it and checked it over pre-buy, and everything is good. But I've hit an issue. Now, I'm not sure what to oil and lube! My common sense kicked in, and I started oiling all the areas where there were wear marks, but I'd like to find a manual for more info, or someone who has experience. Thanks in advance for any tips, I'd really like to take care of this little biddy.
P.S. Odd bit, everyone I've talked to said that the 84BB didn't come in .380, but mine is! |
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Manual can be found here:
http://stevespages.com/pdf/beretta_81.pdf My normal routine is to put a drop of oil on each slide rail, on each side of the barrel lug where it engages the frame, and on the top of the barrel where it touches the slide. The manual also suggests lubing the recoil spring and guide, but I don't see the need for this; I just make sure they're reasonably clean and wipe them down with a lightly oiled cloth. Reassembly tips:
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Regarding the original caliber, the frame should be labeled "CAL. 9 Short" rather than .380, but this merely reflects the fact that the cartridge Americans call .380 Auto or .380 ACP is called the 9mm Short in Europe, often using the local-language translation of the word (commonly Corto, Court, or Kurz). 9mm Browning Short and 9x17mm are also the same cartridge. Lastly, almost everything you might want to know about the 84 can be found at this Beretta Forum FAQ link.
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Welcome to the forum. Carguychris nailed the answers. Those Berettas are very nice pistols. My favorite .380. Enjoy.
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February 1, 2016, 04:16 PM | #4 |
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Thanks!
Thanks! I didn't wanna make some huge mistake and fowl up my nice new(to me) pistol. So, word on the street is that it is virtually impossible to find lasers, sights, or other accessories for the 84. I certainly haven't found anything but grips for it, have any recommendations?
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February 1, 2016, 09:02 PM | #6 |
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Since I have you guys here, how do I get this trigger return spring back in??!!!
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The best advice I have is to get a pair of bent tip tweezers that spring closed rather than springing open, install the takedown button, rotate it 90° upwards, stick the takedown button end of the spring into the hole in the button, and carefully coax the spring into the recess in the frame with the tweezers as you rotate the button back down. The trick is getting the other end into the right spot in the trigger without making the whole spring jump out. AFAIK there's really no easy way to do this. Pray for the patience of Job. (FWIW Beretta has got to be the most creative gunmaker out there when it comes to elaborate springs.)
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February 2, 2016, 01:02 PM | #8 |
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Thank God! My brother pulled out the takedown and it just flew out.
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February 2, 2016, 01:13 PM | #9 |
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Perfect timing!!! Just got my 84B yesterday.
Reassembly is kind of tricky. Kept at it and figured it. Fun gun! Thanks for the links. Hmm actually looking at the FAQ it appears I have a standard 84. No bother ok with me. I went back and looked at the ad and it was stated as a model84. It has a B in the SN so I assumed it was a B model.
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February 2, 2016, 01:37 PM | #10 |
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How do you like those Mecgar Mags? Are they worth it, or just overpriced beaters?
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February 2, 2016, 02:00 PM | #11 |
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I am not a mag expert, but they seem fine. Fit was just right.
I put 100 rounds down the pipe yesterday with zero issues from the gun or the mag. I just ordered two more from Buds this morning.So eventually I will be an expert on them. http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...D+380ACP+Blued
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Mecgar Mags are great, they make the factory mags for alot of companies. They are the only mags I will run other than a factory mag, they cost about half of a factory mag. I run them in my 84F with out any problems. Welcome to the fold, the little 84's are a favorite of mine.
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Also, FYI, the Browning BDA 380—which in fundamentally an 84 with some minor design changes—uses the exact same mags. One of the Mec-Gar mags I bought arrived in BDA 380 packaging and is marked "MG-BDA" rather than "MG-84-BDA" like the others, but there is no discernible difference in cosmetics or function.
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Very nice mine is sort of a knock off its a Browning BDA. Were I to come across the Beretta here I'd buy if price was right very well made pistol.
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Sidenote, is the striker on the slide supposed to have a notch out of the bottom? I can post pics on request.
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The less hook-shaped end of the spring fits in the hole in the takedown button. The slide stop shaft / trigger pivot goes through the larger loop. The hook-shaped end goes over the trigger bar shaft that passes through the trigger. The takedown lever is independent of these parts and does not touch the trigger spring. IIRC I had to rotate the takedown button 90° upwards, insert the spring, rotate the button back down while cramming the spring into the recess in the frame with the tweezers, insert the trigger, and then carefully finagle the spring into the proper position while inserting the other parts. This was a very trying process! If this doesn't do it, I can post a picture of my 84BB this evening. Quote:
It has a recess that is supposed to sit at the 6 o'clock position when assembled. There is a slide disassembly guide with pictures in the Beretta Forum Series 81 FAQ I linked earlier.
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February 3, 2016, 10:30 AM | #18 |
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Through looking at that guide, I have discovered my pistol has no Mag safety on top of that, the slide stop spring was installed improperly. I think someone before me has had issues with reassembly on this gun hah
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February 3, 2016, 12:23 PM | #20 |
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Thanks CarguyChris, you've been a massive help through out all of this!
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February 4, 2016, 08:05 PM | #21 |
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I knew I had helped with a writeup on replacing the trigger spring on the 81 Series Berettas over on Berettaforum.net. The link is below. Has both pictures and written instructions. If you can perform this task, you are no longer a newby home gunsmith.
http://www.berettaforum.net/vb/showthread.php?t=113517 |
February 5, 2016, 10:05 AM | #22 |
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Well, baptism by fire worked for the Godfather hah.
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February 5, 2016, 10:30 AM | #23 |
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Here's a much improved and more accurate sketch of how the trigger spring should be positioned.
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