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Old September 6, 2012, 12:45 PM   #151
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Jwrowland77, that is the bullet that commercially loaded shoots very well out of my 7mm rem mag, I used it to break in my barrel and sight my scope in, man it loves those dudes. show us some targets after you find "The One".
Will do. To date this is the biggest thing I've loaded. I'm a touch on the nervous end but nothing like I was loading those very first round.
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Old September 7, 2012, 03:59 AM   #152
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Just finished:

50 rounds of .44 Rem Mag
310 gr Lee WFN / GC, sized to .432"
1.690" OAL
H110


And... because I had the .44 dies out, and I need legal shot shells (1/2 oz or more shot) for Grouse on the upcoming Elk hunt....

7 rounds of .44-303, as I call it.
They're my .44 Mag shot shells, from .303 British cases.
My last loads in these cases were rather hot, and the "bottleneck" shape caused significant issues with the cases backing out of the cylinder. I had to find a way to resize the 'neck' and bump the 'shoulder' back, or I wouldn't be able to rechamber the cases. I tried quite a few different methods, but ended up just sizing the neck down and bumping the shoulder back with a .40 S&W sizing die. It made nitro card seating a bit tricky, but worked.

5 gr Blue Dot (light load -- I use Titegroup for hot loads)
1/8"x.430" Circle-Fly nitro card, split in half
220 gr Reclaimed shot (primarily #6-7.5, with a little of everything from #4-#9 thrown in)
Secured with nail polish, topped with a Circle-Fly over-shot card, and sealed with nail polish again.

Right now, the first treatment of nail polish is curing. After a few days, I'll add the over-shot card and seal it with nail polish again. Then, they cure for a few more days (or weeks) before being packaged. (To prevent the out-gassing toluene from causing problems with the polypropylene insert in the box.)

As you can see, the variability of the depth of Remington's head stamps and rim thickness really comes to light when you have to reduce the rims.
This batch of cases ended up with a fire-formed length of 1.630", where typical .44 Mag case length is 1.280-1.300". In the future, I'll push the .303 cases all the way to 1.760" (cylinder length) before fire-forming. It should take me to about 1.750" for a finished length and let me seat a full-thickness nitro card. ...If I ever get the motivation to turn more rims down (it's a bit of a pain, without a lathe).
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Old September 8, 2012, 08:50 AM   #153
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That aught to play havoc with grouse, whats the FPS, and max effective range of those dudes?

Also when you get out in the field shoot pics of the grouse hunt, that would be excellent dude.
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Old September 8, 2012, 09:36 AM   #154
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Raining today. I'm going to load up some 9mm. with tg and 115 fmj., and some .40 with tg. and 180gr. XTPs.
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Old September 8, 2012, 02:53 PM   #155
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That aught to play havoc with grouse, whats the FPS, and max effective range of those dudes?
They're almost impossible to chronograph accurately. But, I estimate they're doing 700-800 fps, depending on how well the nitro cards seal. Some of the hotter loads may be exceeding 1,000 fps, but rotating the cylinder in the revolver is very difficult after they're fired (due to the "shoulder" pushing the case head against the rear of the frame).

The lighter loads are good for about 20 feet, max. Beyond that, the 'donut hole' in the pattern is too large. The hotter the load, the quicker the pattern opens up.
I figure 15 feet is about as far as I'll push it. These loads are only used for "targets of opportunity" while chasing Elk. Since Ruffed and Dusky Grouse usually don't flush until you're about 5 feet away, in that terrain; it makes 10-15 foot head shots pretty easy.

I would prefer a "bird and ball" duplex load, but they aren't exactly legal for upland game. (#4-6 shot under a 44 caliber round ball)
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Old September 8, 2012, 05:51 PM   #156
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I just loaded 100 .38 specials with 231 and 158gr lswc and 100 .40 s&w with 180gr lrn.
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Old September 9, 2012, 11:00 PM   #157
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50, 44mag 240 gr speer deep curls over a pretty healthy charge of 296

30, 375 Ruger test loads with IMR 4350, RL-15, and Varget, working up a load for the upcoming Elk hunt.
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Old September 10, 2012, 12:20 PM   #158
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I got bored of sitting around and reading this weekend, so I loaded:
34 .223 55gr FMJ for plinking rounds in my Stevens 200,
70 rounds of .223 55gr FMJ for an AR-15, and
50 rounds of .357 158gr SWC for my SP101.

I resized, tumbled, and primed another 120 cases of .223 for AR loads (ran out of powder). Then I went and belled the case mouths of another batch of .357 cases. Ready for powder, bullets, and crimping tonight.

All on a single stage press, and all powder charges measured out singularly on Lyman scale. I am quite proud. It's the most I've accomplished in a few weeks. Tonight I'm finishing that batch of .357's and getting some .30/06 cranked out.
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Old September 17, 2012, 10:53 AM   #159
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Loaded up 200 rounds of 45 ACP yesterday.

230 Grain RN (X-treme) bullets
Winchester and Rem once-fired brass
CCI Large Pistol Primers
6.0 gr of Unique
COAL: 1.260
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Old September 17, 2012, 09:22 PM   #160
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Nothing...... broke the left pawl on my lnl-ap .... waiting on hornady to send replacement parts.

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Old September 18, 2012, 10:33 AM   #161
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Loaded up some .40. 8gr AA#7 under 180gr lrn.


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Old October 21, 2012, 10:27 PM   #162
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Planning for some mild shooting I loaded up 100 rounds of 357 with 140grn XTPs over 6.6 grn Universal in some new Starline brass. With that I decided to load 50 125 grn Remington SJFP I have laying around with the same charge. Looking forward to blasting a few clay pigeons and phone books next weekend.
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Old October 21, 2012, 11:15 PM   #163
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Friday night reloading festivities for this college kid. Mixing Hornady 165gr SST's with Varget and a CCI 200 primer for my .30-06. Just load development for now. Gotta test them quickly this week before the Nov 3rd deer season opens.

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Old October 21, 2012, 11:20 PM   #164
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should find a good load with that 165 SST with around 44 gr Varget.


I am working on my 308 Win Match ammo. Sorting for neck thickness now and prepping them
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Old October 21, 2012, 11:22 PM   #165
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Sorry browninghunter86, I forgot to mention that these are for my .30-06. 44 grains is a bit low... 47 grains was the starting load according to Hodgdon reloading data web site.

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Old October 22, 2012, 01:07 AM   #166
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Ahh I see my bad man. Those bullets are gonna put some meat in the freezeer. They did magic on deer in my 270 so I could imagine great success in larger calibers.
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Old October 22, 2012, 01:27 AM   #167
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browninghunter86 Ahh I see my bad man. Those bullets are gonna put some meat in the freezeer. They did magic on deer in my 270 so I could imagine great success in larger calibers.
No worries friend. That's my goal too! MN whitetails have 10 days...
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Old October 22, 2012, 07:46 AM   #168
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.38 Special - Win 231 under Rainier 158gr flat point plated bullets. First batch had lousy accuracy and under expected velocity. I found old Rainier load data which showed COAL at 1.430" for this bullet and am hoping shorter length will prove more accurate. Powder charge 4.4 grains based on first ladder results.
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Old October 22, 2012, 11:47 PM   #169
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a bunch of .223 with 69gr Hollow points
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Old October 23, 2012, 09:02 AM   #170
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Loaded up 50 for a 270 Weatherby Magnum yesterday. Used new Norma brass, WLRM primers, Barnes 140 Gr TSX, and Reloader 22.
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Old October 23, 2012, 11:27 PM   #171
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9mm
124gr rnhb berry's
4.9gr power pistol
1.150 col
Qty 500
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Old October 23, 2012, 11:57 PM   #172
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.45s with 230 gr. LRN.
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Old October 24, 2012, 03:40 AM   #173
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.327 Federal
115 gr Gold Dot
Alliant 2400


12 ga
1-7/8"
2"
3-1/4"
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Old October 24, 2012, 12:10 PM   #174
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You have any pictures of these oddballs?
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Old October 24, 2012, 04:47 PM   #175
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Left to right: 1-7/8", 2", factory 2-3/4" (fold crimp), 3-1/4"
Crimped length depends on wad/gas seal pressure, and crimp pressure for the particular load. Left to right (rounded to the nearest 1/8"): 1.5", 1.75", 2.25", 2.875"



The 1-7/8" shell is loaded with a little less than 3/4 oz of shot, and a moderate dose of Red Dot.
The 2" shell is loaded with 7/8 oz of shot, and a "heavy" charge of Bullseye.
I've never chronographed either load, but they should both be a bit over 1,200 fps, while remaining under 9k psi.

Straight hulls are required. Tapered or compression-formed hulls don't have enough capacity, the taper causes wad and gas seal problems, and pressure spikes can sneak up on you.


Load on Sunday, and shoot all week.
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