Clamp on muzzle brake?? Opinions??

Bennyfatsack · August 16, 2014, 04:48 PM

Found an Australian seller manufacturer producing clamp on muzzle brakes customised to suit your muzzle diameter has interchangeable stainless calibre sleeves, clamps on via 6 hex head screws 3 each side, is actually listed on eBay Australia, just search ( muzzle brake ). Was hoping others had experience with or advice regarding this style of brake, ultimately I would prefer tapped and threaded, but touch and go with firearms laws in Australia when modifying firearms, so clamp on bypasses this dilemma, advice anyone before I buy........ Actually I probably buy anyway and make my own judgement, still be good to hear.

Bennyfatsack · August 17, 2014, 08:57 PM

Anyone ??

wogpotter · August 18, 2014, 06:49 AM

A friend of mine bought a Smith Enterprises clamp on brake for his .308, based on the fact I had one on my .22.
He was warned to drill recesses for the fixing grub screws, but decided he'd just torque them really well instead.
His 3rd shot blew the thing right off the muzzle making 3 huge gouges in the end of his barrel.
Based on that I'd not use a clamp on or grub screw type with a center-fire rifle. Rim fire yes.

tobnpr · August 18, 2014, 08:08 AM

I have a Kahntrol, clamp-on brake on my long-range 7mm-08.

Brings recoil down to 5.56 levels IMO, very effective. While the 7-08 has relatively little recoil, it allows me to spot my own hits very effectively, eliminating the need for a spotter.

http://kahntrol.com/brake-options/

Bennyfatsack · August 19, 2014, 02:39 AM

I'm looking to fit mine to my howa varmint .243 21mm o.d. Barrel, for same reason, recoil not a problem just wanting to reduce it for viewing shot placement and will only improve my accuracy by reducing flinch from recoil. I have since contacted hinterland sports ( manufacturer/seller ) and he says that of the several hundred sold he has had very little bad feed back, bad feed back mostly from people fitting brakes to magnum calibres with sporter or small diam barrels, fitting a grub/locating screw also sounds like a great idea. Manufacturer assures me though, that if I fit his brake to my 21mm od .243, tensioning all 6 hex screws evenly to 60lb it will never move, be sure to clean and use some loctite if I was worried. $185 aus + post, $35 to rebush if calibre change or worn out. Gunna try it. Ill post feedback upon a test run

**4V50 Gary** · August 19, 2014, 07:06 AM

I remember the CA AWB and the resultant CA Compliant clamp on muzzle brakes in lieu of a threaded barrel and flash suppressors. Some of the clamp on brakes flew off during the course of firing.

tobnpr · August 19, 2014, 08:09 AM

Clamp-on's, when done with precision, won't have issues IMO.

The "cheap" ones, often for milsurps where the pitch is not having to modify or thread the barrel, often have a single allen set screw- and can be dangerous.

Those like the Kahntrol are precision milled-custom- to exactly match the diameter and taper of your barrel. Fitting mine took some effort to get in placed correctly. It hasn't moved relative to the witness mark on the barrel in about 600 rounds, and I've not had to re-torque the screws (loctited in place).

While I would prefer a threaded brake on a new barrel, one that's already fitted to an action and would require removal are perfect candidates for a quality clamp-on, JMO.

Vt.birdhunter · August 19, 2014, 08:12 AM

If you secure it as per the manufactures directions, it should be solid.
Check his feedback carefully.

Brakes can be very effective at reducing muzzle rise/recoil, but they generally make the firearm much louder.

Jim243 · August 19, 2014, 11:03 AM

I have used one on my 10/22 22 lr and have not had any problems, but for my 243 I would get a gunsmith to thread the barrel if I was going to use one.

Probably cheaper in the long run.

Just my thoughts.
Jim

HJ857 · August 20, 2014, 06:59 PM

I also have a Kahntrol brake on a semi auto .308. I don't remember using loctite on the screws. I re-checked for tightness after 50 rounds and again at 100 and they didn't even slightly come loose. I have around 1000 rounds through it now and it's still rock solid. Great brake.

Pahoo · August 21, 2014, 06:57 PM

One day at the range, I found one. It was threaded and pinned. It had cracked at the pin location and must have been blown off. Later, a friend told me that it came off a Bushmaster, although I don't know how he determined that. I still have it in my shop. ....

Be Safe !!!

August 16, 2014, 04:48 PM	#1
Bennyfatsack Member Join Date: August 11, 2014 Location: NSW Australia Posts: 77	Clamp on muzzle brake?? Opinions?? Found an Australian seller manufacturer producing clamp on muzzle brakes customised to suit your muzzle diameter has interchangeable stainless calibre sleeves, clamps on via 6 hex head screws 3 each side, is actually listed on eBay Australia, just search ( muzzle brake ). Was hoping others had experience with or advice regarding this style of brake, ultimately I would prefer tapped and threaded, but touch and go with firearms laws in Australia when modifying firearms, so clamp on bypasses this dilemma, advice anyone before I buy........ Actually I probably buy anyway and make my own judgement, still be good to hear.

August 18, 2014, 06:49 AM	#3
wogpotter Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2004 Posts: 4,811	A friend of mine bought a Smith Enterprises clamp on brake for his .308, based on the fact I had one on my .22. He was warned to drill recesses for the fixing grub screws, but decided he'd just torque them really well instead. His 3rd shot blew the thing right off the muzzle making 3 huge gouges in the end of his barrel. Based on that I'd not use a clamp on or grub screw type with a center-fire rifle. Rim fire yes. __________________ Allan Quatermain: “Automatic rifles. Who in God's name has automatic rifles”? Elderly Hunter: “That's dashed unsporting. Probably Belgium.”

August 18, 2014, 08:08 AM	#4
tobnpr Senior Member Join Date: August 1, 2010 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 4,556	I have a Kahntrol, clamp-on brake on my long-range 7mm-08. Brings recoil down to 5.56 levels IMO, very effective. While the 7-08 has relatively little recoil, it allows me to spot my own hits very effectively, eliminating the need for a spotter. http://kahntrol.com/brake-options/ __________________ Remington 700/Savage Rebarreling /Action Blueprinting 07 FFL /Mosin-Nagant Custom Shop/Bent Bolts Genuine Cerakote Applicator www.biggorillagunworks.com

August 19, 2014, 07:06 AM	#6
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,838	I remember the CA AWB and the resultant CA Compliant clamp on muzzle brakes in lieu of a threaded barrel and flash suppressors. Some of the clamp on brakes flew off during the course of firing. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

August 19, 2014, 08:09 AM	#7
tobnpr Senior Member Join Date: August 1, 2010 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 4,556	Clamp-on's, when done with precision, won't have issues IMO. The "cheap" ones, often for milsurps where the pitch is not having to modify or thread the barrel, often have a single allen set screw- and can be dangerous. Those like the Kahntrol are precision milled-custom- to exactly match the diameter and taper of your barrel. Fitting mine took some effort to get in placed correctly. It hasn't moved relative to the witness mark on the barrel in about 600 rounds, and I've not had to re-torque the screws (loctited in place). While I would prefer a threaded brake on a new barrel, one that's already fitted to an action and would require removal are perfect candidates for a quality clamp-on, JMO. __________________ Remington 700/Savage Rebarreling /Action Blueprinting 07 FFL /Mosin-Nagant Custom Shop/Bent Bolts Genuine Cerakote Applicator www.biggorillagunworks.com

August 17, 2014, 08:57 PM	#2
Bennyfatsack Member Join Date: August 11, 2014 Location: NSW Australia Posts: 77	Anyone ??

August 19, 2014, 02:39 AM	#5
Bennyfatsack Member Join Date: August 11, 2014 Location: NSW Australia Posts: 77	I'm looking to fit mine to my howa varmint .243 21mm o.d. Barrel, for same reason, recoil not a problem just wanting to reduce it for viewing shot placement and will only improve my accuracy by reducing flinch from recoil. I have since contacted hinterland sports ( manufacturer/seller ) and he says that of the several hundred sold he has had very little bad feed back, bad feed back mostly from people fitting brakes to magnum calibres with sporter or small diam barrels, fitting a grub/locating screw also sounds like a great idea. Manufacturer assures me though, that if I fit his brake to my 21mm od .243, tensioning all 6 hex screws evenly to 60lb it will never move, be sure to clean and use some loctite if I was worried. $185 aus + post, $35 to rebush if calibre change or worn out. Gunna try it. Ill post feedback upon a test run

August 19, 2014, 08:12 AM	#8
Vt.birdhunter Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2009 Posts: 637	If you secure it as per the manufactures directions, it should be solid. Check his feedback carefully. Brakes can be very effective at reducing muzzle rise/recoil, but they generally make the firearm much louder. __________________ Maintaining a constant state of cat-like readiness and a heightened state of suspicious alertness.

August 19, 2014, 11:03 AM	#9
Jim243 Senior Member Join Date: January 5, 2009 Location: Just off Route 66 Posts: 5,067	I have used one on my 10/22 22 lr and have not had any problems, but for my 243 I would get a gunsmith to thread the barrel if I was going to use one. Probably cheaper in the long run. Just my thoughts. Jim __________________ Si vis pacem, para bellum

August 20, 2014, 06:59 PM	#10
HJ857 Senior Member Join Date: January 9, 2007 Posts: 447	I also have a Kahntrol brake on a semi auto .308. I don't remember using loctite on the screws. I re-checked for tightness after 50 rounds and again at 100 and they didn't even slightly come loose. I have around 1000 rounds through it now and it's still rock solid. Great brake.

August 21, 2014, 06:57 PM	#11
Pahoo Senior Member Join Date: February 16, 2006 Location: IOWA Posts: 8,783	I have one, on the bench One day at the range, I found one. It was threaded and pinned. It had cracked at the pin location and must have been blown off. Later, a friend told me that it came off a Bushmaster, although I don't know how he determined that. I still have it in my shop. .... Be Safe !!! __________________ 'Fundamental truths' are easy to recognize because they are verified daily through simple observation and thus, require no testing.