And she's off!

[1hogfan83]

I just sent my P-01 off the Cajun Gun Works this afternoon for a whole list of options. The Defensive carry package was the main job but we also discussed some night sights and a reach reduction kit. I'm really excited about the new DA trigger pull. They said it could be brought down to 8lbs, half of what it is now.

[TunnelRat]

No way it's 16 lbs right now. It might be 12.

I'm curious how they are doing a reach reduction on an aluminum frame pistol. Are they changing the starting point for the DA trigger pull?

[Aguila Blanca]

Originally Posted by TunnelRat

I'm curious how they are doing a reach reduction on an aluminum frame pistol. Are they changing the starting point for the DA trigger pull?

Yep.

They also sell it as a D.I.Y. part kit:
http://www.cajungunworks.com/miscellaneous_items.html

[1hogfan83]

I don't know much of anything about the cz platform. I don't know why the alloy frame would be any different from a steel in that aspect, their both compacts. Its a decocker, that makes it complicated. I'm not about to dive into that thing. He, David Miliam (sp?), initially thought I wanted to parts sent to me but I said oh no! It was worth the extra money to have them do it plus they stone and hone and do all that fun stuff, plus the front sight has to be drilled to put in the mepro night sight. He said it was a 16 pound trigger, I'm not a good judge and he, along with CZ, which I didn't talk too because of price, where the only gunsmiths I found that work on CZ guns. He would know the trigger better than anyone. I'm sure I'll be happy with the trigger, however it started out. I haven't read any negative comments about his work.

[TunnelRat]

I'm sure you will be happy, I've just never handled one that was a 16lb pull. The mainspring might be 16lb, but I doubt the pull is. Even still, 12lb to 8lb will be a massively noticeable difference.

My comment on alloy frame wasn't meant as alloy versus steel. It was meant as alloy versus polymer. I hear and have seen people talk a lot about grip reductions in polymer guns, noticeably Glocks. With a polymer frame pistol the grip reduction usually consists of actually removing some of the polymer material from the backstrap of the gun. That's one advantage of polymer I guess, you can shape it. I was confused because I didn't think they were going to shave off material from the aluminum . But if what Aguila says is true they are changing the position of the trigger, which makes sense.

Make sure to post a review when you get it back.

[1hogfan83]

I think that's what reach reduction is for, they are also putting on a 85 combat trigger. I think the combat trigger looks better and its a little bit slimmer. Their turn around is three weeks, that I couldn't believe. I have small hands at best, delicate too, DONT JUDGE ME! I may but custom grips on latter on, I don't know. I think it may look kinda stupid, custom grips with a polycoated gun.

[TunnelRat]

I may but custom grips on latter on, I don't know.

The grip options from VZ grips made a big difference in trigger reach for me.

[1hogfan83]

Yeah, I am considering the skinny grips but I'll just take it one step at a time.

[schmeky]

TunnelRat,

No way it's 16 lbs right now. It might be 12

With all due respect, yes the out-of-the-box DA is 16 pounds. I made no mistake. I would be more than happy for you to share how you measured the CZ DA factory pull at 12 pounds.

[TunnelRat]

With all due respect, yes the out-of-the-box DA is 16 pounds. I made no mistake.

Mind if I ask who you are and what your relation is to the OP that you measured the trigger pull on her gun?

I would be more than happy for you to share how you measured the CZ DA factory pull at 12 pounds.

Sure. A trigger pull gauge. I'm curious how you even measured something at 16 lbs. I am unaware of a trigger pull gauge that goes that high. Did you just hang weight off the trigger?

[Stringfellow]

Schmeky IS Cajun Gun Works.

Schmeky might be to CZ what Bruce Gray is to SIG.

[TunnelRat]

Schmeky IS Cajun Gun Works.

Schmeky might be to CZ what Bruce Gray is to SIG.

Schmeky could say that when he wrote the message.

I'm not sure why he's upset. At no point did I question the integrity of his work. I've never seen his work. All I claimed was that from the CZs I owned, which were recent production and that might be a part of it, the DA pull wasn't that heavy. Maybe I got lucky?

[schmeky]

TunnelRat,

No disrespect intended. I have 2 gauges, both electronic, one goes to 12 pounds the other to 20 pounds.

Maybe you did get lucky, I don't know.

[TunnelRat]

No disrespect intended. I have 2 gauges, both electronic, one goes to 12 pounds the other to 20 pounds.

Mind if I ask what gauge goes to 20 lbs? I've been looking for a gauge that goes a bit higher. I have the Lyman electronic gauge that maxes at 12. It works fine, but I buy and trade a lot of DA/SA pistols and sometimes more measurement would be helpful. I like tinkering around with spring combinations.

[1hogfan83]

"Scratch's head." I could care less what it WAS, David told me what it will BE. Although it did like the SA pull before I sent it in. Has anyone measured that before?

[TunnelRat]

"Scratch's head." I could care less what it WAS, David told me what it will BE.

Okay, then just ignore my comments and that part of the discussion.

Although it did like the SA pull before I sent it in. Has anyone measured that before?

To me a nice single action trigger is right around 4-4.5 lbs. Some folks like lower but I'm not one of them.

I'd guess the P-01 to be around 5 lbs in SA from factory on the model I had.

[1hogfan83]

I'm more focused on the double action, seeing as it will be carried hammer down but a light trigger will be fun too.

BTW TunnelRat,

I pretty much ignore your comments

[TunnelRat]

I pretty much ignore your comments

You can lead a horse to water...

[1hogfan83]

May I teach you to fish

[TunnelRat]

May I teach you to fish

Actually I like fishing, it's relaxing. I just sit there napping with my pole.

[Tactical Jackalope]

I just sit there napping with my pole.

Sounds like my uncle.

[kutz]

12# ?

[1hogfan83]

MOVING ON!

I don't really understand how you can bring down the double action pull that far and not hardly effect the single action.

[TunnelRat]

I don't really understand how you can bring down the double action pull that far and not hardly effect the single action.

Well the ratio between the DA/SA pulls is staying pretty close to the way it came from factory, even after a trigger job. Your real question should be, how is the SA pull on a DA/SA pistol so light anyway?

You need to understand how a DA/SA works. In SA the hammer is cocked. At this point the hammer spring has been compressed, which is what you're doing when you pull the trigger in DA. In SA you're fighting the weight of the trigger spring, the firing pin block spring, and the friction between the hammer and the sear. That friction is a result of the smoothness of both the hammer and sear, the geometry between them, AND the strength of the hammer spring. When cocked the hammer spring provides a force between the hammer and sear that still needs to be overcome. However this contribution is significantly less than in DA. So while the hammer spring has a big impact in the weight of the DA pull, it has much less of an impact on the SA pull. Therefore you can adjust the DA notably without dramatically affecting the SA.

[TunnelRat]

Quote:
I just sit there napping with my pole.
Sounds like my uncle.