How am I doing on my Guide Gun ???

Magnum Wheel Man · August 15, 2009, 11:44 AM

I bought this 45-70 carbine lightly used last year... then I added the big loop lever & "bear proof" ejector from WILDALASKA... the custom butt cuff & sling are from LEVERGUN Leather Works

the gun was ported from the factory, & came with a green factory fiber optic front sight...

after I figure out what I want for sights for sure ( I think I want the Williams Fire Sights ghost ring rear ( comes with green fiber optic dots flanking a ghost ring... & likely a red or orange fiber optic rod in the front sight )

then the gun will be done...

I was originally thinking about a black stock ( truck bed liner or ??? ) butt I'm liking the look of the walnut with the leather added... think I'll keep it wood

hows it look ???

Magnum Wheel Man · August 15, 2009, 11:46 AM

forgot to add... the sling swivels are Talon solid stainless...

& one more pic of the sling detail...

badlander · August 15, 2009, 11:55 AM

Looks good! If you must have A black stock find some beater wood. You may want the Walnut back someday.
Oh and you can send that scrap leather to me for proper disposal.

Rob96 · August 15, 2009, 02:03 PM

The 45-70 Guide Gun is an incredible carbine. I have fired the ported model and didn't like it much. I am glad I was able to find a newer unported.

Don't forget to get some loading gear for that beast.

azredhawk44 · August 15, 2009, 02:07 PM

I love it!

Tell me about the larger loop handle on the lever. I've got a .450 Marlin that is in a similar state of "upgrade." I was planning on leaving the lever alone, though.

comn-cents · August 15, 2009, 02:14 PM

Very Cool

V.Hunter · August 15, 2009, 02:34 PM

The leather is really nice, your LEVERevolution ammo looks a little out of place, lol.

Is the lever for gloved hands or just your preference? I have never liked them much but a friend of mine swears by his for cold weather hunting. As I have never used my lever guns for cold weather I really can’t say either way.

I like the idea of you keeping it scope free. I'd keep it stocked with the walnut but if you want black then I would go with a synthetic stock set.

Nice levergun MWM.

geologist · August 15, 2009, 02:35 PM

Put in a WWG one piece Happy Trigger. It'll reduce the trigger pull and make it very crisp.

Magnum Wheel Man · August 15, 2009, 03:50 PM

the lever I got from WILDALASKA here on this forum ( Wild West Guns I believe )... it was drop in... there is one "other" brand, I forget the maker, & I don't think they make a stainless one ??? I'm not unhappy with the stock trigger, but could probably get talked into the WWG's trigger if it's really that much better

I have pretty big hands, & can only scrunch 4 fingers into the big loop lever, but could do 3 fingers even with gloves... & yes it can be very cold up here during deer season

Leverevolution... yep.. out of place... I'll begin loading 45-70 for load deveopement this winter for my 4 - 45-70's... most all will likely be cast bullets... the cartridges that stay in the loops will also be nickle plated...

I would have prefered one without ports, but my 14" Contender barrel is ported, so I knew what kind of muzzle blast I'd get from this gun... it's actually a little "tamer" than the Contender... but I got it for several hundred less than a new one, & as able to put it on lay away at my local toy store... so I "settled" for the ported model

ScaryWoody · August 15, 2009, 08:05 PM

Definitely keep the wood! Great looking rifle, how's it shoot?

Magnum Wheel Man · August 16, 2009, 10:04 AM

it shoots pretty good with factory ammo, I don't have much for handloads in 45-70 loaded right now... this year I workd on reloads for small cartridges ( mostly 17 K Hornet, 5.7 X 28, & 22 Hornet ) I was also going to work on 223, but I was not happy with the scope on my Contender carbine barrel, so I put off 223 until later... I can't hardly wait till this winter, when I start doing a big load developent project for the bigger cartridges ( my hands are really getting tired of futzing with the little cases ) 35 Remington & 45-70, 50 A.E, & 50-70 will for sure be on the menu... I'm also doing a 577 snider project, but will likely not be ready to load that one this winter... for 45-70's I have a 14" Contender, this Marlin Carbine, one of the Remington Spartan double rifles, & a custom "safari" Martini built with a light weight octogon 458 win mag barrel, rechambered to 45-70 ( a little faster twist rate than most 45-70's ) that one has 3 leaf safari sights that need to be regulated yet... all 4 will take different loads, so by next summer I'll be doing alot of target & chrony work with the 45-70's I should end up with something that spanks game & shoots the best possible groups for all 4 guns by the time I get done ( I also have several 22 Hornets, & by the time I get done with that load developement project I will have tried between 150 - 200 different powder bullet & primer combinations looking for what works best in each fire arm... I'll be doing the same with the 45-70's )

geologist · August 20, 2009, 01:04 AM

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I'm not unhappy with the stock trigger, but could probably get talked into the WWG's trigger if it's really that much better

I find the trigger pull with the WWG trigger is so light and crisp that I have to warn guys who try my 1895 GS for the first time. Even after the warning they are often surprised by the improved trigger pull.

JAGER26 · August 22, 2009, 10:27 PM

Love the stock keep it wood in my opinion! Me personally I love the Marlin 450 Mag. Where did you get the ammuntion holder?

mellow_c · August 23, 2009, 12:34 AM

+1 V.Hunter

Magnum Wheel Man · August 23, 2009, 08:50 AM

this is where I got my leather...

http://www.levergunleather.com/p_buttstock_covers.htm

Piper Cub · August 23, 2009, 09:01 AM

Needs a bear proof ejector, happy trigger, a good bolt polishing and an aluminum follower in the tube mag!!!

Then get some punch bullets

Magnum Wheel Man · August 23, 2009, 11:06 AM

Quote:

I bought this 45-70 carbine lightly used last year... then I added the big loop lever & "bear proof" ejector from WILDALASKA... the custom butt cuff & sling are from LEVERGUN Leather Works

Welll... at least I already have the "bear proof" ejector

Edward429451 · August 23, 2009, 03:10 PM

Nice rifle. I have a 18" GG and did the same thing to it. WWG big loop lever, and the Blackhawk buttcuff/cheekpad. A Willams peep sight. I did add the Happy trigger kit from WWG and oh my god is that trigger sweet! You just think about shooting it and it goes off.

Collected a nice Muley with it last October with a 400gr FP from Lyman mould and backed by RL-7

mp25ds4 · August 23, 2009, 04:09 PM

I would try to get a cocking lever that matches the blue of the gun

badlander · August 23, 2009, 04:32 PM

You mean match the blue on that stainless rifle? I would prefer it polished to match tho.

Magnum Wheel Man · August 23, 2009, 06:35 PM

on mine, they are both stainless... & the lever matches better than what it looks like in the pics...

Edward429451 · August 23, 2009, 07:58 PM

I think it looks great. It don't need a high polish to fret over, pfft.

My blue one don't match. The deer didn't care...

earlthegoat2 · August 23, 2009, 08:25 PM

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comes with green fiber optic dots flanking a ghost ring...

I would advise against doing this. It will make the front sight harder so see. just go with the ghost ring and fiber optic front.

Magnum Wheel Man · August 24, 2009, 06:23 AM

this is the sights I'm thinking about ( these are on my 45 Colt Contender barrel ) note the red front sight... ( I'd change out the front fiber optic rod/ front sight on the guide gun )

this is the rear sight ( better pic, not on my gun )

the winged front post / rear ghost ring ( from Brockmans I think ) are interesting, but seem like over kill

SR420 · August 24, 2009, 06:49 AM

Magnum Wheel Man, nice Guide Gun!

My GG wears DRC WINGED 1895 GHOST-RING SIGHT SET

It also wears an XS Scout Mount

I have a Leupold FX-II 2.5x28mm IER Scout scope
and an Aimpoint Micro T-1 red dot for the rifle.

The rifle is currently at Clements getting a few mods...

.

August 15, 2009, 02:14 PM	#6
comn-cents Senior Member Join Date: June 18, 2008 Location: Pac.N.W. Posts: 1,804	Very Cool __________________ Be Smarter Than A Bore-Snake!

August 15, 2009, 03:50 PM	#9
Magnum Wheel Man Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2006 Location: Southern Minnesota Posts: 9,333	the lever I got from WILDALASKA here on this forum ( Wild West Guns I believe )... it was drop in... there is one "other" brand, I forget the maker, & I don't think they make a stainless one ??? I'm not unhappy with the stock trigger, but could probably get talked into the WWG's trigger if it's really that much better I have pretty big hands, & can only scrunch 4 fingers into the big loop lever, but could do 3 fingers even with gloves... & yes it can be very cold up here during deer season Leverevolution... yep.. out of place... I'll begin loading 45-70 for load deveopement this winter for my 4 - 45-70's... most all will likely be cast bullets... the cartridges that stay in the loops will also be nickle plated... I would have prefered one without ports, but my 14" Contender barrel is ported, so I knew what kind of muzzle blast I'd get from this gun... it's actually a little "tamer" than the Contender... but I got it for several hundred less than a new one, & as able to put it on lay away at my local toy store... so I "settled" for the ported model __________________ In life you either make dust or eat dust... Last edited by Magnum Wheel Man; August 15, 2009 at 04:08 PM.

August 16, 2009, 10:04 AM	#11
Magnum Wheel Man Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2006 Location: Southern Minnesota Posts: 9,333	it shoots pretty good with factory ammo, I don't have much for handloads in 45-70 loaded right now... this year I workd on reloads for small cartridges ( mostly 17 K Hornet, 5.7 X 28, & 22 Hornet ) I was also going to work on 223, but I was not happy with the scope on my Contender carbine barrel, so I put off 223 until later... I can't hardly wait till this winter, when I start doing a big load developent project for the bigger cartridges ( my hands are really getting tired of futzing with the little cases ) 35 Remington & 45-70, 50 A.E, & 50-70 will for sure be on the menu... I'm also doing a 577 snider project, but will likely not be ready to load that one this winter... for 45-70's I have a 14" Contender, this Marlin Carbine, one of the Remington Spartan double rifles, & a custom "safari" Martini built with a light weight octogon 458 win mag barrel, rechambered to 45-70 ( a little faster twist rate than most 45-70's ) that one has 3 leaf safari sights that need to be regulated yet... all 4 will take different loads, so by next summer I'll be doing alot of target & chrony work with the 45-70's I should end up with something that spanks game & shoots the best possible groups for all 4 guns by the time I get done ( I also have several 22 Hornets, & by the time I get done with that load developement project I will have tried between 150 - 200 different powder bullet & primer combinations looking for what works best in each fire arm... I'll be doing the same with the 45-70's ) __________________ In life you either make dust or eat dust... Last edited by Magnum Wheel Man; August 16, 2009 at 10:09 AM.

August 22, 2009, 10:27 PM	#13
JAGER26 Junior Member Join Date: August 22, 2009 Location: In Baumholder, Germany. Posts: 7	Very good looking guide gun! Love the stock keep it wood in my opinion! Me personally I love the Marlin 450 Mag. Where did you get the ammuntion holder? __________________ You can judge the caracter of a man by the way he helps those that can do nothing for him.

August 23, 2009, 08:50 AM	#15
Magnum Wheel Man Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2006 Location: Southern Minnesota Posts: 9,333	Lot of really nice looking lever guns here... this is where I got my leather... http://www.levergunleather.com/p_buttstock_covers.htm __________________ In life you either make dust or eat dust...

August 15, 2009, 11:55 AM	#3
badlander Senior Member Join Date: February 27, 2008 Location: So. Fla Posts: 344	Looks good! If you must have A black stock find some beater wood. You may want the Walnut back someday. Oh and you can send that scrap leather to me for proper disposal.

August 15, 2009, 02:03 PM	#4
Rob96 Senior Member Join Date: August 31, 1999 Location: Allentown,PA Posts: 1,969	The 45-70 Guide Gun is an incredible carbine. I have fired the ported model and didn't like it much. I am glad I was able to find a newer unported. Don't forget to get some loading gear for that beast.

August 15, 2009, 02:07 PM	#5
azredhawk44 Junior member Join Date: September 28, 2005 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 6,465	I love it! Tell me about the larger loop handle on the lever. I've got a .450 Marlin that is in a similar state of "upgrade." I was planning on leaving the lever alone, though.

August 15, 2009, 02:34 PM	#7
V.Hunter Senior Member Join Date: April 18, 2009 Posts: 159	The leather is really nice, your LEVERevolution ammo looks a little out of place, lol. Is the lever for gloved hands or just your preference? I have never liked them much but a friend of mine swears by his for cold weather hunting. As I have never used my lever guns for cold weather I really can’t say either way. I like the idea of you keeping it scope free. I'd keep it stocked with the walnut but if you want black then I would go with a synthetic stock set. Nice levergun MWM.

August 15, 2009, 02:35 PM	#8
geologist Senior Member Join Date: March 8, 2005 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 247	Put in a WWG one piece Happy Trigger. It'll reduce the trigger pull and make it very crisp.

August 15, 2009, 08:05 PM	#10
ScaryWoody Senior Member Join Date: September 4, 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 368	Definitely keep the wood! Great looking rifle, how's it shoot?

August 23, 2009, 12:34 AM	#14
mellow_c Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,862	+1 V.Hunter

August 23, 2009, 09:01 AM	#16
Piper Cub Junior member Join Date: February 5, 2009 Location: TEXAS Posts: 491	Needs a bear proof ejector, happy trigger, a good bolt polishing and an aluminum follower in the tube mag!!! Then get some punch bullets

August 23, 2009, 03:10 PM	#18
Edward429451 Junior member Join Date: November 12, 2000 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 9,494	Nice rifle. I have a 18" GG and did the same thing to it. WWG big loop lever, and the Blackhawk buttcuff/cheekpad. A Willams peep sight. I did add the Happy trigger kit from WWG and oh my god is that trigger sweet! You just think about shooting it and it goes off. Collected a nice Muley with it last October with a 400gr FP from Lyman mould and backed by RL-7

August 23, 2009, 04:09 PM	#19
mp25ds4 Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2009 Posts: 392	I would try to get a cocking lever that matches the blue of the gun __________________ Liberal Newscaster Katie Couric, while interviewing a Marine sniper, asked: 'What do you feel.....when you shoot a Terrorist?' The Marine shrugged and replied, "A Slight Recoil."

August 23, 2009, 04:32 PM	#20
badlander Senior Member Join Date: February 27, 2008 Location: So. Fla Posts: 344	You mean match the blue on that stainless rifle? I would prefer it polished to match tho.

August 23, 2009, 06:35 PM	#21
Magnum Wheel Man Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2006 Location: Southern Minnesota Posts: 9,333	on mine, they are both stainless... & the lever matches better than what it looks like in the pics... __________________ In life you either make dust or eat dust...

August 23, 2009, 07:58 PM	#22
Edward429451 Junior member Join Date: November 12, 2000 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 9,494	I think it looks great. It don't need a high polish to fret over, pfft. My blue one don't match. The deer didn't care...

August 24, 2009, 06:23 AM	#24
Magnum Wheel Man Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2006 Location: Southern Minnesota Posts: 9,333	this is the sights I'm thinking about ( these are on my 45 Colt Contender barrel ) note the red front sight... ( I'd change out the front fiber optic rod/ front sight on the guide gun ) this is the rear sight ( better pic, not on my gun ) the winged front post / rear ghost ring ( from Brockmans I think ) are interesting, but seem like over kill __________________ In life you either make dust or eat dust...

August 24, 2009, 06:49 AM	#25
SR420 Senior Member Join Date: May 12, 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 3,336	Magnum Wheel Man, nice Guide Gun! My GG wears DRC WINGED 1895 GHOST-RING SIGHT SET It also wears an XS Scout Mount I have a Leupold FX-II 2.5x28mm IER Scout scope and an Aimpoint Micro T-1 red dot for the rifle. The rifle is currently at Clements getting a few mods... . __________________ The History and Development of the M14 EBR