any NAA Companion owners?

zombieslayer · August 4, 2011, 09:15 PM

I grew up watching my dad shoot and hunt with black powder growing up but have never bought a any myself.
I've had a couple of NAA mini's and was always interested in their cap and ball mini's. Today I finally got around to ordering one. What a painless experience ordering was. No special forms or anything. $189 delivered to my door.
Any owners have any tips or advice?
Thanks

arcticap · August 6, 2011, 04:15 AM

There's some NAA owner's that regularly frequent the black powder forum on thehighroad.org
You should join and ask there and there's also a lot of previous threads about the NAA C&B's to search through in their database.
It's been discussed there extensively and some have even experimented with loading their NAA's with Bullseye smokeless powder and then posted about it.
The high road is considered to be TFL's sister site and many members belong to both forums since they have a lot in common.

http://www.thehighroad.org/

madcratebuilder · August 6, 2011, 08:30 AM

They are great fun. I tend to load mine up with T7, gives them a nice bark.

orangello · August 6, 2011, 09:16 AM

I wondered how those lil buggers performed. Is it only for those little conicals or is there ball ammo too?

zombieslayer · August 6, 2011, 09:50 AM

Im thinking #4 lead shot would work. And it would be cheap. Ive checked out the high road. Seems ok but not nearly as classy as this forum imo.

arcticap · August 6, 2011, 01:21 PM

Gamo makes .22 caliber round balls for air guns, and .22 air gun pellets can be loaded too.
If there's any looseness with their fit then a small piece of card or a balled up wad of paper can be pressed fitted over the projectile to help hold it in place.

At Pyramyd Air the 4th tin of pellets is always free and they also carry some heavyweight .22 pellets.

http://www.pyramydair.com/s/p/Gamo_R...alls_250ct/610

zombieslayer · August 6, 2011, 01:57 PM

Hmmm... Ive been wanting a .22air rifle. Msybe I'll call pyramid up and order one. And a bunch of pellets...thanks

robhof · August 6, 2011, 09:46 PM

Don't use the pellets with T7, I had some blow off the top and leave the skirt in the chamber, flattened to the wall and requiring a jewelers screwdriver to pry them off and remove. The pellets work best with just caps or very light b/p charges. I shoot in my garage with just the caps, and use a standard pellet trap.

zombieslayer · August 6, 2011, 10:32 PM

Good to know. Thanks. I cant wait to get it. Should be a week or so.
It will be good for scaring coons off the back porch if nothing else...

arcticap · August 7, 2011, 05:50 AM

A homemade wad or over powder card over the powder may protect the base enough to prevent separation.
If the pellet is sandwiched above and below in the chamber, then the skirt shouldn't blow out since the wad underneath would act as a protective cushion for the skirt and to seal off gas blow by
A small ball of wadded newspaper can be compressed on top of the powder to serve that purpose, or card material.

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Originally Posted by Busyhands94

i found out how to shoot the pellets out of the Super Companion. just put two grain in there, then a wad of newspaper on top then you put your pellet on top. heavy pellets work best, but light ones will do. if yo go too light they will keyhole. i found that RWS domed pellets work fantastic! they penetrate well, and will sail right through a half an inch of wood. i used an old fence board to hold up my target and it worked well! i also tried some vintage Benjamin High-Compression pellets in my super companion. they worked really well and i could hold a pretty small group with it.

another pellet trick i found works well, cut the skirt of some Beeman pointed tip pellets. you will have a lead cone. now make ten of those. then, load them under 4 grains o powder with a newspaper wad. the result is two projectiles that will still fly through a fence board with relative ease. you can collect the tips of the pellets, load three per chamber on top of 4 grains of powder with a wad. then drip some candle wax on there to keep em' in place. they turn on their side for a cutting effect. they leave 3 oblong holes a shot and penetrate well! i figure 15 0f these things should do some damage!

http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost....3&postcount=47

However be careful shooting if shooting light pellets at hard flat surfaces because they can ricochet as shown in some photos from the same thread:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost....0&postcount=34

There's other posts that mention loading the NAA with newspaper wads, cards, pellets and/or shot:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost....8&postcount=26

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthrea...&highlight=wad

http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost....4&postcount=17

zombieslayer · August 7, 2011, 04:42 PM

Arcticap you are very knowledgeable about this stuff. I saw that you have the same screen nane on thr. Maybe I'll join after all...

Busyhands94 · August 7, 2011, 05:15 PM

i have both the LR and Magnum versions and i love them! i customized mine a little, added a fixed rear sight (filed it to sight the pistol in) and now i can shoot a soda can from 50 feet away. i think that is pretty great accuracy for such a small handgun

i run mine of Triple Seven, Remington #10 caps, and the standard 30 grain conicals! i like to shoot shot out of it sometimes, it's rather fun to shoot shot out of the thing! i did a youtube review of mine, you can see the sight picture this pistol has. also, the trick to getting good accuracy is to hold it with two hands, and hold it nice and tight. take your time aiming too, and when you start shooting with it, take it to someplace with some sand or a background that will show your hits. you can float a pop can on some water, or you could put it on some dusty ground, it really helps you see how to shoot it correctly!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYyDM...el_video_title

zullo74 · August 7, 2011, 06:07 PM

arcticap knows ALL!

Hawg · August 7, 2011, 06:42 PM

Quote:

arcticap knows ALL!

I dunno bout all but he knows most of it.

zombieslayer · August 7, 2011, 10:23 PM

I ordered from Midwest Hunters Outlet and if its as much fun as I think it's going to be, I'm going to order the magnum framed C&B. Thanks for the insight so far guys.

Busyhands94 · August 7, 2011, 11:12 PM

the Magnum is great! with a full dipper of Triple Seven you have a pocket sized critter-gitter! mine reaches out pretty far, you would be surprised at what a small gun like that can do.

madcratebuilder · August 8, 2011, 08:16 AM

Don't forget to accessorize.

Busyhands94 · August 8, 2011, 09:35 AM

oh my gosh i need to get me a little bayonet and a laser sight! that would be so cool! i wonder what kind of accuracy one can get with a laser sight, i seriously think i might get one for my .22 cap n' ball Magnum if they are good.

orangello · August 8, 2011, 11:47 AM

Does anybody own a BP version of the Earl? Their website makes it look pretty cool, IMO. http://www.northamericanarms.com/fir...1830-3-cb.html

Of course they aren't exactly cheap.

zombieslayer · August 9, 2011, 10:07 AM

Lol at the tactical accessories. The laser does look like fun though...

Busyhands94 · August 9, 2011, 02:09 PM

i have been really liking the blackpowder earl, i think i might get one someday. it reminds me of an 1863 Remington pocket, the faux Remington loading lever, the top strap, the spur trigger, the grip, the octagon barrel. it just seems like a really cool little hog leg!

orangello · August 10, 2011, 11:18 AM

^^^ Yup, i think it would look cool with my Remington replica.

zombieslayer · August 12, 2011, 11:40 AM

According to fedex it should be in today. I wonder if they'll just leave it on the doorstep...

Busyhands94 · August 12, 2011, 12:16 PM

where did you order it from? i got both of mine from Midwest Hunter's Outlet and they left it right on the front step.

zombieslayer · August 12, 2011, 09:35 PM

Got it! I ordered from Midwest Hunters Outlet as well. Luckily it was on my doorstep when I got home. I took it out and shot it. What a fun little gun to shoot.
The CCI caps I tried were a very tight fit. I'm going to try the reccomended Remingtons next time. I had some Pyrodex fffp on hand and after about 15 rounds I was hotting soda cans from 15 feet away.

August 6, 2011, 09:50 AM	#5
zombieslayer Senior Member Join Date: September 11, 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,198	Im thinking #4 lead shot would work. And it would be cheap. Ive checked out the high road. Seems ok but not nearly as classy as this forum imo. __________________ "An angry prophet, denouncing the hypocrisies of our time"

August 6, 2011, 01:21 PM	#6
arcticap Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2005 Location: Central Connecticut Posts: 3,166	Gamo makes .22 caliber round balls for air guns, and .22 air gun pellets can be loaded too. If there's any looseness with their fit then a small piece of card or a balled up wad of paper can be pressed fitted over the projectile to help hold it in place. At Pyramyd Air the 4th tin of pellets is always free and they also carry some heavyweight .22 pellets. http://www.pyramydair.com/s/p/Gamo_R...alls_250ct/610 Last edited by arcticap; August 6, 2011 at 01:59 PM.

August 6, 2011, 01:57 PM	#7
zombieslayer Senior Member Join Date: September 11, 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,198	Hmmm... Ive been wanting a .22air rifle. Msybe I'll call pyramid up and order one. And a bunch of pellets...thanks __________________ "An angry prophet, denouncing the hypocrisies of our time"

August 6, 2011, 09:46 PM	#8
robhof Senior Member Join Date: September 16, 2007 Posts: 712	robhof Don't use the pellets with T7, I had some blow off the top and leave the skirt in the chamber, flattened to the wall and requiring a jewelers screwdriver to pry them off and remove. The pellets work best with just caps or very light b/p charges. I shoot in my garage with just the caps, and use a standard pellet trap.

August 6, 2011, 10:32 PM	#9
zombieslayer Senior Member Join Date: September 11, 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,198	Good to know. Thanks. I cant wait to get it. Should be a week or so. It will be good for scaring coons off the back porch if nothing else... __________________ "An angry prophet, denouncing the hypocrisies of our time"

August 4, 2011, 09:15 PM	#1
zombieslayer Senior Member Join Date: September 11, 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,198	any NAA Companion owners? I grew up watching my dad shoot and hunt with black powder growing up but have never bought a any myself. I've had a couple of NAA mini's and was always interested in their cap and ball mini's. Today I finally got around to ordering one. What a painless experience ordering was. No special forms or anything. $189 delivered to my door. Any owners have any tips or advice? Thanks __________________ "An angry prophet, denouncing the hypocrisies of our time"

August 6, 2011, 04:15 AM	#2
arcticap Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2005 Location: Central Connecticut Posts: 3,166	There's some NAA owner's that regularly frequent the black powder forum on thehighroad.org You should join and ask there and there's also a lot of previous threads about the NAA C&B's to search through in their database. It's been discussed there extensively and some have even experimented with loading their NAA's with Bullseye smokeless powder and then posted about it. The high road is considered to be TFL's sister site and many members belong to both forums since they have a lot in common. http://www.thehighroad.org/

August 6, 2011, 08:30 AM	#3
madcratebuilder Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 2007 Location: Northern Orygun Posts: 4,923	They are great fun. I tend to load mine up with T7, gives them a nice bark.

August 6, 2011, 09:16 AM	#4
orangello Senior Member Join Date: February 25, 2009 Posts: 566	I wondered how those lil buggers performed. Is it only for those little conicals or is there ball ammo too?

August 7, 2011, 04:42 PM	#11
zombieslayer Senior Member Join Date: September 11, 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,198	Arcticap you are very knowledgeable about this stuff. I saw that you have the same screen nane on thr. Maybe I'll join after all... __________________ "An angry prophet, denouncing the hypocrisies of our time"

August 7, 2011, 05:15 PM	#12
Busyhands94 Member Join Date: August 7, 2011 Posts: 31	i have both the LR and Magnum versions and i love them! i customized mine a little, added a fixed rear sight (filed it to sight the pistol in) and now i can shoot a soda can from 50 feet away. i think that is pretty great accuracy for such a small handgun i run mine of Triple Seven, Remington #10 caps, and the standard 30 grain conicals! i like to shoot shot out of it sometimes, it's rather fun to shoot shot out of the thing! i did a youtube review of mine, you can see the sight picture this pistol has. also, the trick to getting good accuracy is to hold it with two hands, and hold it nice and tight. take your time aiming too, and when you start shooting with it, take it to someplace with some sand or a background that will show your hits. you can float a pop can on some water, or you could put it on some dusty ground, it really helps you see how to shoot it correctly! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYyDM...el_video_title

August 7, 2011, 06:07 PM	#13
zullo74 Junior member Join Date: August 8, 2009 Posts: 374	arcticap knows ALL!

August 7, 2011, 10:23 PM	#15
zombieslayer Senior Member Join Date: September 11, 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,198	I ordered from Midwest Hunters Outlet and if its as much fun as I think it's going to be, I'm going to order the magnum framed C&B. Thanks for the insight so far guys. __________________ "An angry prophet, denouncing the hypocrisies of our time"

August 7, 2011, 11:12 PM	#16
Busyhands94 Member Join Date: August 7, 2011 Posts: 31	the Magnum is great! with a full dipper of Triple Seven you have a pocket sized critter-gitter! mine reaches out pretty far, you would be surprised at what a small gun like that can do.

August 8, 2011, 08:16 AM	#17
madcratebuilder Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 2007 Location: Northern Orygun Posts: 4,923	Don't forget to accessorize.

August 8, 2011, 09:35 AM	#18
Busyhands94 Member Join Date: August 7, 2011 Posts: 31	accesories oh my gosh i need to get me a little bayonet and a laser sight! that would be so cool! i wonder what kind of accuracy one can get with a laser sight, i seriously think i might get one for my .22 cap n' ball Magnum if they are good.

August 8, 2011, 11:47 AM	#19
orangello Senior Member Join Date: February 25, 2009 Posts: 566	Does anybody own a BP version of the Earl? Their website makes it look pretty cool, IMO. http://www.northamericanarms.com/fir...1830-3-cb.html Of course they aren't exactly cheap.

August 9, 2011, 10:07 AM	#20
zombieslayer Senior Member Join Date: September 11, 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,198	Lol at the tactical accessories. The laser does look like fun though... __________________ "An angry prophet, denouncing the hypocrisies of our time"

August 9, 2011, 02:09 PM	#21
Busyhands94 Member Join Date: August 7, 2011 Posts: 31	BP NAA earl i have been really liking the blackpowder earl, i think i might get one someday. it reminds me of an 1863 Remington pocket, the faux Remington loading lever, the top strap, the spur trigger, the grip, the octagon barrel. it just seems like a really cool little hog leg!

August 10, 2011, 11:18 AM	#22
orangello Senior Member Join Date: February 25, 2009 Posts: 566	^^^ Yup, i think it would look cool with my Remington replica.

August 12, 2011, 11:40 AM	#23
zombieslayer Senior Member Join Date: September 11, 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,198	According to fedex it should be in today. I wonder if they'll just leave it on the doorstep... __________________ "An angry prophet, denouncing the hypocrisies of our time"

August 12, 2011, 12:16 PM	#24
Busyhands94 Member Join Date: August 7, 2011 Posts: 31	where did you order it from? i got both of mine from Midwest Hunter's Outlet and they left it right on the front step. __________________ We fired our guns and the British kept a'comin There wasn't nigh as many as there was a while ago. We fired once more and they began to runnin' on Down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico!

August 12, 2011, 09:35 PM	#25
zombieslayer Senior Member Join Date: September 11, 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,198	Got it! I ordered from Midwest Hunters Outlet as well. Luckily it was on my doorstep when I got home. I took it out and shot it. What a fun little gun to shoot. The CCI caps I tried were a very tight fit. I'm going to try the reccomended Remingtons next time. I had some Pyrodex fffp on hand and after about 15 rounds I was hotting soda cans from 15 feet away. __________________ "An angry prophet, denouncing the hypocrisies of our time"