29 degrees, but no rain! Melt some lead!

Beagle333 · December 24, 2013, 09:52 AM

It might be a wind chill of 22, but the rain is finally gone. I'm casting today!!!!

Pics to come shortly.

Daffy · December 24, 2013, 10:42 AM

-4 actual here, just a touch under my comfort level for casting

Got some new brass to prep though... INSIDE.

guncheese · December 24, 2013, 12:01 PM

it seems my casting cut off point is about 5F
i cant keep the tools warm enough below that
ill shoot at -10F but no casting

Beagle333 · December 24, 2013, 05:09 PM

I chose the 45-270-SAA mold today, because it's big and holds lots of heat, and because I'm low on .45s.

This is 13 pounds of em. ('should be about 325 of em, by weight)
'Don't look like much, but that's all I could stand. That North wind was blowing right straight into my ear.
(I cast out in my yard). At least I got a little casting done and that scratched my itch for today.

I haven't weighed any, but they drop at .4535
I believe they are supposed to weigh around 280gr. but I'll weigh some after lubing. The alloy is 90% pure, with 8%WW and 2% tin. They need to be soft, because my Peacemaker ain't gonna be pushin' em all that fast.

They were poured mostly at 730 degrees, or as close as I could keep it.

Daffy · December 24, 2013, 05:34 PM

nice looking batch of pills

Beagle333 · December 25, 2013, 10:25 PM

Ready to go! The wind was blowing and time ran short, so no PC today. I am running these through the sizer with some CR tonight. It's time to load!!!

salvadore · December 26, 2013, 12:14 PM

Beagle, hope you have better luck than I did. I cast some 454190 HPs of very soft lead, loaded them to saami SAA specs and shot with my 4.75' Colt into gallon jugs of water with very little deformation.

LAH · December 26, 2013, 12:36 PM

Love that bullet.

Beagle333 · December 26, 2013, 02:56 PM

Salvadore, you may well be right. The HP could be a waste of time... but I only got the Peacemaker right now.

One of these sweet days I'll have a Bisely BH to push em through..... but funds prohibit that at the present.

Mike / Tx · December 27, 2013, 05:22 AM

Just for kicks and grins I plugged some numbers into the calculator Bumpo put up. I use a hundred pound ratio to keep it simple for me, it's still early. I came up with the following,

Tin=2.04%
Antimony=0.24%
Arsenic=0.02%
Pure Lead=97.7%
Total Weight=100.0#
Est. Hardness=9.4 BHN

If your alloy is remotely close to this you should see some fair expansion if your loading to the range of 850-950 FPS. I typically run mine in the mid to upper 900fps range using my alloy and it runs in the 10.5 BHN range.

Below left is the 270 SAA poured from my alloy,

This is the write up I did on it as well,
Pouring HP's and Learning to Blend Alloy's.

Your on the right track, now get out there and burn some powder man, you can't keep that thing all nice and new forever, soot it up for peat sake.

JERRYS. · December 27, 2013, 05:25 AM

Beagle333, where do you shoot?

Beagle333 · December 27, 2013, 09:17 AM

In my backyard. I live in the country. The nearest range is in the National Forest, 20 miles away, and it's pretty much just a yahoo free-for-all there.
The plus side to shooting here at home is.... I get all my wonderful lead back!

salvadore · December 27, 2013, 09:57 AM

The BH should make all the difference B, I shoot a harder alloy bullet out of a rifle @ I don't really (1200/1400?) know but into gallon jugs of water it leaves all kinds of shattered bullet alloy and a .45 cal. collar button.

Beagle333 · December 27, 2013, 08:33 PM

'Made another pile of em today! This may be one of the easiest casting molds that I have.
Odd, since it's a 4 cav HP, but they just rain out of this thing.

(heavy.... 280gr rain.)

LAH · December 27, 2013, 09:57 PM

They weigh 280 hollow pointed?

Beagle333 · December 27, 2013, 10:20 PM

Well, 274.9 now that you done got me to go weigh some.

LAH · December 28, 2013, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Well, 274.9 now that you done got me to go weigh some.

HEE HEE..............Thanks

Beagle333 · December 28, 2013, 04:58 PM

Now I'm gonna lube em really really fast.

December 24, 2013, 09:52 AM	#1
Beagle333 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2012 Location: Auburn, AL. Posts: 2,332	29 degrees, but no rain! Melt some lead! It might be a wind chill of 22, but the rain is finally gone. I'm casting today!!!! Pics to come shortly. __________________ . . . Have a Colt and a smile.

December 24, 2013, 05:09 PM	#4
Beagle333 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2012 Location: Auburn, AL. Posts: 2,332	I chose the 45-270-SAA mold today, because it's big and holds lots of heat, and because I'm low on .45s. This is 13 pounds of em. ('should be about 325 of em, by weight) 'Don't look like much, but that's all I could stand. That North wind was blowing right straight into my ear. (I cast out in my yard). At least I got a little casting done and that scratched my itch for today. I haven't weighed any, but they drop at .4535 I believe they are supposed to weigh around 280gr. but I'll weigh some after lubing. The alloy is 90% pure, with 8%WW and 2% tin. They need to be soft, because my Peacemaker ain't gonna be pushin' em all that fast. They were poured mostly at 730 degrees, or as close as I could keep it. __________________ . . . Have a Colt and a smile. Last edited by Beagle333; December 24, 2013 at 05:15 PM.

December 25, 2013, 10:25 PM	#6
Beagle333 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2012 Location: Auburn, AL. Posts: 2,332	Ready to go! The wind was blowing and time ran short, so no PC today. I am running these through the sizer with some CR tonight. It's time to load!!! __________________ . . . Have a Colt and a smile.

December 26, 2013, 02:56 PM	#9
Beagle333 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2012 Location: Auburn, AL. Posts: 2,332	Salvadore, you may well be right. The HP could be a waste of time... but I only got the Peacemaker right now. One of these sweet days I'll have a Bisely BH to push em through..... but funds prohibit that at the present. __________________ . . . Have a Colt and a smile.

December 27, 2013, 05:22 AM	#10
Mike / Tx Senior Member Join Date: April 8, 2000 Posts: 2,101	Just for kicks and grins I plugged some numbers into the calculator Bumpo put up. I use a hundred pound ratio to keep it simple for me, it's still early. I came up with the following, Tin=2.04% Antimony=0.24% Arsenic=0.02% Pure Lead=97.7% Total Weight=100.0# Est. Hardness=9.4 BHN If your alloy is remotely close to this you should see some fair expansion if your loading to the range of 850-950 FPS. I typically run mine in the mid to upper 900fps range using my alloy and it runs in the 10.5 BHN range. Below left is the 270 SAA poured from my alloy, This is the write up I did on it as well, Pouring HP's and Learning to Blend Alloy's. Your on the right track, now get out there and burn some powder man, you can't keep that thing all nice and new forever, soot it up for peat sake. __________________ LAter, Mike / TX

December 24, 2013, 10:42 AM	#2
Daffy Member Join Date: December 24, 2012 Posts: 63	-4 actual here, just a touch under my comfort level for casting Got some new brass to prep though... INSIDE.

December 24, 2013, 12:01 PM	#3
guncheese Senior Member Join Date: January 13, 2013 Posts: 128	it seems my casting cut off point is about 5F i cant keep the tools warm enough below that ill shoot at -10F but no casting

December 24, 2013, 05:34 PM	#5
Daffy Member Join Date: December 24, 2012 Posts: 63	nice looking batch of pills

December 26, 2013, 12:14 PM	#7
salvadore Junior member Join Date: January 1, 2007 Location: Idaho Posts: 2,282	Beagle, hope you have better luck than I did. I cast some 454190 HPs of very soft lead, loaded them to saami SAA specs and shot with my 4.75' Colt into gallon jugs of water with very little deformation.

December 26, 2013, 12:36 PM	#8
LAH Senior Member Join Date: March 22, 2002 Location: In The Hardwoods Posts: 1,188	Love that bullet.

December 27, 2013, 05:25 AM	#11
JERRYS. Senior Member Join Date: September 23, 2013 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,968	Beagle333, where do you shoot?

December 27, 2013, 09:17 AM	#12
Beagle333 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2012 Location: Auburn, AL. Posts: 2,332	In my backyard. I live in the country. The nearest range is in the National Forest, 20 miles away, and it's pretty much just a yahoo free-for-all there. The plus side to shooting here at home is.... I get all my wonderful lead back! __________________ . . . Have a Colt and a smile.

December 27, 2013, 09:57 AM	#13
salvadore Junior member Join Date: January 1, 2007 Location: Idaho Posts: 2,282	The BH should make all the difference B, I shoot a harder alloy bullet out of a rifle @ I don't really (1200/1400?) know but into gallon jugs of water it leaves all kinds of shattered bullet alloy and a .45 cal. collar button.

December 27, 2013, 08:33 PM	#14
Beagle333 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2012 Location: Auburn, AL. Posts: 2,332	'Made another pile of em today! This may be one of the easiest casting molds that I have. Odd, since it's a 4 cav HP, but they just rain out of this thing. (heavy.... 280gr rain.) __________________ . . . Have a Colt and a smile.

December 27, 2013, 09:57 PM	#15
LAH Senior Member Join Date: March 22, 2002 Location: In The Hardwoods Posts: 1,188	They weigh 280 hollow pointed?

December 27, 2013, 10:20 PM	#16
Beagle333 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2012 Location: Auburn, AL. Posts: 2,332	Well, 274.9 now that you done got me to go weigh some. __________________ . . . Have a Colt and a smile.

December 28, 2013, 04:58 PM	#18
Beagle333 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2012 Location: Auburn, AL. Posts: 2,332	Raining again today! So.... Now I'm gonna lube em really really fast. __________________ . . . Have a Colt and a smile.