Winchester model 70

Weaver · October 26, 2011, 06:34 PM

Thanks for everyones help on my last post. I ended up ruling out the remington 770 and checked a local pawn shop. I know the guy that runs it, so i walked out with a winchester model 70 in 30-06 caliber, with a bushnell 4x12x40 scope with leupold rings and a box of shells all for $297.03. It has a black synthetic stock so i know it cant be too old. I was hoping for some opinions. I think i got a good deal and was wondering what someone with more experience thinks. Thanks

warbirdlover · October 26, 2011, 06:35 PM

You did GOOD! Smart move over the 770. You got yourself a REAL rifle!

Weaver · October 26, 2011, 08:03 PM

Now the only thing im still curious about is how to figure out the year it was made. i know you can go by the serial number but i cant find nothing online about it.

30-30remchester · October 26, 2011, 08:10 PM

Cant ever go wrong with a model 70.

Weaver · October 26, 2011, 08:25 PM

Im reading some reviews on it and most are saying that theyre not very accurate. im planning on using it this deer season. will the accuracy be an issue?

shootniron · October 26, 2011, 08:30 PM

In my experience they are as accurate as any other sporters that I have had. There will be no problem deer hunting with this rifle.

ripnbst · October 26, 2011, 08:35 PM

Holy smokes that's a good deal!

You have a good friend.

codyb1991 · October 26, 2011, 08:45 PM

Wow. Impressed

warbirdlover · October 26, 2011, 08:56 PM

Winchester model 70's are as accurate as anything else made. They say Ruger 77's are not accurate and I've never owned one that wouldn't shoot under an inch at 100 yards. I think some of these "reviewers" just don't know how to shoot is all.

oneshot onekill · October 26, 2011, 09:39 PM

Sounds like a great deal. The issue with the newer Model 70's is that they can be hit or miss as far as accuracy. Some wil shoot Sub-MOA all day long. Others will be as loose as 2MOA which isn't all that bad either. Honestly, you can do many things to improve the accuracy if you do happen to get one that isn't all that accurate.

PS: I have to disagree about Rugers. I haven't seen a center-fire Ruger that was worth a damn as far as accuracy. But I may be the exception.

DeerSlayer86 · October 26, 2011, 09:42 PM

Yeah thats basically stealing. Especially if you were considering a Rem 770. IMO Remington embarrassed themselves by putting their name on it. I understand that most gun manufacturers offer some sort of "economy" rifle but I just really, really am not a fan of that one.

bailey bud · October 26, 2011, 09:42 PM

a price like that - you'll see the letter "G" on the serial number.

Weaver · October 26, 2011, 10:34 PM

Im not sure if it has a "G" or not in the serial number. What would that mean?

Buzzcook · October 26, 2011, 10:47 PM

You won't know how accurate it is till you shoot it.

For most deer hunting a rifle doesn't have to be sub-moa. The majority of deer are taken at less than 100yds. The heart lung target on a deer is 8" or more. Do the math.

It's a very good price for the gun.

Discern · October 26, 2011, 10:56 PM

It sounds like you got a very good deal. If the bullets are reloads and not factory new, I would not fire them. If you reload, you can use and impact puller and use the components. What model of Bushnell is the scope?

I have a Model 70 (post 64) in 30-06. It is an accurate rifle. For deer, try the 150 gr or 165 gr bullets.

fatwhiteboy · October 26, 2011, 11:03 PM

I have a Model 70 with a synthetic stock. It shoots clover leafs at 100 yards using Corelokt ammo. Unless there is something out of whack, your's will be fine...

jmr40 · October 27, 2011, 11:00 AM

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Im not sure if it has a "G" or not in the serial number. What would that mean?

G prefix means it was made between 1968-2006. Doesn't narrow it down much.

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The issue with the newer Model 70's is that they can be hit or miss as far as accuracy.

Newer 70's produced by FN since 2008 are some of the most accurate rifles ever made. Starting in 1963-1980 was the dark years for Winchester. These were the spotty years. Some were good, others not so good. Winchester revamped in 1980 and made some darn good guns that are under rated and can often be had at bargain prices.

Between around 2000-2006 quality was again spotty, but I have 2 of the Classics made during that time that shoot great after a few minor tweaks that should have been taken care of at the factory.

Sounds like one of the Black Shadow rifles. A good basic rifle that is far better than the 770 you were considering. Probably made during the late 90's or possibly early 2000's

TX Hunter · October 27, 2011, 11:48 AM

You did good. For about the same money you got a great rifle. I hope you enjoy it and have a good hunting season.

smith357 · October 27, 2011, 04:53 PM

My post 64 M70 sporter in .30-06 with Weaver 4x glass on tip offs shoots just over 1 MOA, plenty good enough for a 7.5 lb deer rifle. I'm sure if I took the time and effort to work up a special load it would do better, but it was not purchased to punch holes in paper, it was purchased for something lightweight and powerful that was easy to carry all day long.

94bluerat · October 27, 2011, 05:41 PM

Make sure you try a few types of ammo.

Different brands, bullet types and bullet weights group differently.

Don't worry about hitting the center of the bull, just focus on group size.

After determining the best combination of grouping and bullet performance zero it for 2 inches high at 100 yards and you'll be good to go.

A couple of times I really wanted to shoot a specific bullet, but a different product performed better. It is not always the "latest, greatest, gotta have" product that will give you the best results.

Cheers!

Lloyd Smale · October 28, 2011, 04:21 AM

When you talk accuracy its allways reminton and savage that come up but ive got to say that ive had just as good of luck with 70s as i have with either of the other two.

Right to bear arms · October 28, 2011, 03:19 PM

Great deal, dude! I just recently bought a 7mm Mag (pd. $375)Model 70. After fine tuning, it out shoots every rifle I own.

Weaver · October 28, 2011, 07:38 PM

Discern,
It is a bushnell Sportsman 4-12x40

Discern · October 29, 2011, 05:06 PM

That is not a bad scope. It is not top of the line, but it is a decent scope. It may be all the scope you need.

October 26, 2011, 06:34 PM	#1
Weaver Junior Member Join Date: October 19, 2011 Posts: 7	Winchester model 70 Thanks for everyones help on my last post. I ended up ruling out the remington 770 and checked a local pawn shop. I know the guy that runs it, so i walked out with a winchester model 70 in 30-06 caliber, with a bushnell 4x12x40 scope with leupold rings and a box of shells all for $297.03. It has a black synthetic stock so i know it cant be too old. I was hoping for some opinions. I think i got a good deal and was wondering what someone with more experience thinks. Thanks

October 26, 2011, 11:03 PM	#16
fatwhiteboy Senior Member Join Date: April 3, 2011 Posts: 317	I have a Model 70 with a synthetic stock. It shoots clover leafs at 100 yards using Corelokt ammo. Unless there is something out of whack, your's will be fine... __________________ Fat White So Cal

October 27, 2011, 04:53 PM	#19
smith357 Senior Member Join Date: February 19, 2005 Posts: 270	You did good!!! My post 64 M70 sporter in .30-06 with Weaver 4x glass on tip offs shoots just over 1 MOA, plenty good enough for a 7.5 lb deer rifle. I'm sure if I took the time and effort to work up a special load it would do better, but it was not purchased to punch holes in paper, it was purchased for something lightweight and powerful that was easy to carry all day long.

October 27, 2011, 05:41 PM	#20
94bluerat Senior Member Join Date: May 30, 2007 Location: South of Canada Posts: 204	Make sure you try a few types of ammo. Different brands, bullet types and bullet weights group differently. Don't worry about hitting the center of the bull, just focus on group size. After determining the best combination of grouping and bullet performance zero it for 2 inches high at 100 yards and you'll be good to go. A couple of times I really wanted to shoot a specific bullet, but a different product performed better. It is not always the "latest, greatest, gotta have" product that will give you the best results. Cheers! __________________ "Got a shotgun, a rifle and a four wheel drive" - HW Jr. Rifleman BSA Eagle Scout

October 26, 2011, 06:35 PM	#2
warbirdlover Senior Member Join Date: December 13, 2009 Location: central Wisconsin Posts: 2,324	You did GOOD! Smart move over the 770. You got yourself a REAL rifle!

October 26, 2011, 08:03 PM	#3
Weaver Junior Member Join Date: October 19, 2011 Posts: 7	Now the only thing im still curious about is how to figure out the year it was made. i know you can go by the serial number but i cant find nothing online about it.

October 26, 2011, 08:10 PM	#4
30-30remchester Senior Member Join Date: April 18, 2009 Location: mountains of colorado Posts: 977	Cant ever go wrong with a model 70.

October 26, 2011, 08:25 PM	#5
Weaver Junior Member Join Date: October 19, 2011 Posts: 7	Im reading some reviews on it and most are saying that theyre not very accurate. im planning on using it this deer season. will the accuracy be an issue?

October 26, 2011, 08:30 PM	#6
shootniron Senior Member Join Date: April 16, 2011 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,599	In my experience they are as accurate as any other sporters that I have had. There will be no problem deer hunting with this rifle.

October 26, 2011, 08:35 PM	#7
ripnbst Senior Member Join Date: November 24, 2010 Location: Spring, TX Posts: 1,552	Holy smokes that's a good deal! You have a good friend.

October 26, 2011, 08:45 PM	#8
codyb1991 Member Join Date: September 24, 2011 Location: Hoquiam, WA Posts: 88	Wow. Impressed

October 26, 2011, 08:56 PM	#9
warbirdlover Senior Member Join Date: December 13, 2009 Location: central Wisconsin Posts: 2,324	Winchester model 70's are as accurate as anything else made. They say Ruger 77's are not accurate and I've never owned one that wouldn't shoot under an inch at 100 yards. I think some of these "reviewers" just don't know how to shoot is all.

October 26, 2011, 09:39 PM	#10
oneshot onekill Senior Member Join Date: May 24, 2010 Posts: 166	Sounds like a great deal. The issue with the newer Model 70's is that they can be hit or miss as far as accuracy. Some wil shoot Sub-MOA all day long. Others will be as loose as 2MOA which isn't all that bad either. Honestly, you can do many things to improve the accuracy if you do happen to get one that isn't all that accurate. PS: I have to disagree about Rugers. I haven't seen a center-fire Ruger that was worth a damn as far as accuracy. But I may be the exception.

October 26, 2011, 09:42 PM	#11
DeerSlayer86 Senior Member Join Date: October 4, 2011 Location: Tx Posts: 117	Yeah thats basically stealing. Especially if you were considering a Rem 770. IMO Remington embarrassed themselves by putting their name on it. I understand that most gun manufacturers offer some sort of "economy" rifle but I just really, really am not a fan of that one.

October 26, 2011, 09:42 PM	#12
bailey bud Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 2011 Location: 1.5 miles above insanity Posts: 259	a price like that - you'll see the letter "G" on the serial number.

October 26, 2011, 10:34 PM	#13
Weaver Junior Member Join Date: October 19, 2011 Posts: 7	Im not sure if it has a "G" or not in the serial number. What would that mean?

October 26, 2011, 10:47 PM	#14
Buzzcook Senior Member Join Date: November 29, 2007 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 6,126	You won't know how accurate it is till you shoot it. For most deer hunting a rifle doesn't have to be sub-moa. The majority of deer are taken at less than 100yds. The heart lung target on a deer is 8" or more. Do the math. It's a very good price for the gun.

October 26, 2011, 10:56 PM	#15
Discern Senior Member Join Date: July 30, 2011 Posts: 471	It sounds like you got a very good deal. If the bullets are reloads and not factory new, I would not fire them. If you reload, you can use and impact puller and use the components. What model of Bushnell is the scope? I have a Model 70 (post 64) in 30-06. It is an accurate rifle. For deer, try the 150 gr or 165 gr bullets.

October 27, 2011, 11:48 AM	#18
TX Hunter Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2010 Location: East Texas USA Posts: 1,805	You did good. For about the same money you got a great rifle. I hope you enjoy it and have a good hunting season.

October 28, 2011, 04:21 AM	#21
Lloyd Smale Junior member Join Date: February 11, 2005 Posts: 822	When you talk accuracy its allways reminton and savage that come up but ive got to say that ive had just as good of luck with 70s as i have with either of the other two.

October 28, 2011, 03:19 PM	#22
Right to bear arms Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2011 Location: LaFayette GA Posts: 197	Great deal, dude! I just recently bought a 7mm Mag (pd. $375)Model 70. After fine tuning, it out shoots every rifle I own.

October 28, 2011, 07:38 PM	#23
Weaver Junior Member Join Date: October 19, 2011 Posts: 7	Discern, It is a bushnell Sportsman 4-12x40

October 29, 2011, 05:06 PM	#24
Discern Senior Member Join Date: July 30, 2011 Posts: 471	That is not a bad scope. It is not top of the line, but it is a decent scope. It may be all the scope you need.