Vaquero or Cimarron P? - Page 2

Sarge · October 20, 2012, 11:12 PM

Gratuitous Stampede pic from Cheaper Than Dirt, entirely representative of the one I handled last week.

I think I are in lub

NO-BODY · October 21, 2012, 07:00 PM

VAQUERO......... Great gun and American made

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Hawg · October 21, 2012, 07:08 PM

Model P

redhawk45 · October 24, 2012, 04:36 PM

Colt still makes the Single Action Army if anyone wants an original.

TheFlash · October 24, 2012, 04:57 PM

I handled a Stampede at the Shot Show in January and must admit that it felt really good and had the 'clicks'...

That said:
I have both a New Vaquero and original Vaquero - both in 45LC.
I've also got a stainless Ruger Blackhawk Flattop in 45LC/45ACP.

Love all three and especially like the New Vaquero.
It has fixed sights, but at 20yds I can easily shoot out the bullseye on targets and it shoots EXACTLY to point of aim.

Even though I shoot Rugers, I still do the load one, skip one, load four, cock and drop the hammer on the empty chamber.

My recommendation:
Try them both at your local range or at least handle them in a store.

To that point:
I cannot buy any SAA type revolver in .357/.38Spl. The bore is too small and the barrel too thick. The balance feels very forward biased.
Whether with a 4 3/8"bbl or the 5 1/2"bbl, the 45LC feels perfect to me.
So, definitely handle them and see what you like best then BUY IT!

Regards,
Mike

Crunchy Frog · October 24, 2012, 07:16 PM

Flash, why cock the hammer on a Ruger New Model? When we load 'em with five rounds per SASS rules, the drill is:

Open the loading gate;

Load one,

Skip one,

Load four,

Close the gate,

Rotate the cylinder until it stops.

Voila! Empty chamber is under the hammer.

TheFlash · October 26, 2012, 04:36 PM

Hi Crunchy,

I was taught that with Vaqueros or Blackhawks, if you close the loading gate and then rotate the cylinder, then the cylinder stop (or whatever that little locking notch is called) will drag against the cylinder and that's how you get those drag line scratches on the cylinder between the notches.

If you close the loading gate and cock the hammer, the cylinder stop retracts, the cylinder rotates, you can safely ease the hammer down on the empty chamber using the trigger and nothing scrapes against the cylinder.

Have you found that to NOT be the case if you just rotate the cylinder until it stops???

Regards,
Mike

Crunchy Frog · October 26, 2012, 08:38 PM

You have me there. I'll take a look the next time I have them out.

I know at one point I tried rotating the cylinder to line up the empty chamber with the barrel before closing the gate, but too often I did not time it right, causing it to miss locking up at the desired point.

I know that the "drill" for Colt style single actions is to pull the hammer to full cock before lowering on the empty chamber. If you let the hammer down from half cock it causes the bolt to drag on the cylinder.

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October 21, 2012, 07:00 PM	#27
NO-BODY Junior member Join Date: October 9, 2012 Location: ALEXANDRIA,LA Posts: 59	VAQUERO......... Great gun and American made http://thefiringline.com/forums/atta...7&d=1350259982

October 21, 2012, 07:08 PM	#28
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	Model P

October 24, 2012, 04:36 PM	#29
redhawk45 Member Join Date: July 2, 2012 Posts: 85	Colt still makes the Single Action Army if anyone wants an original.

October 24, 2012, 04:57 PM	#30
TheFlash Member Join Date: October 9, 2012 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 70	I handled a Stampede at the Shot Show in January and must admit that it felt really good and had the 'clicks'... That said: I have both a New Vaquero and original Vaquero - both in 45LC. I've also got a stainless Ruger Blackhawk Flattop in 45LC/45ACP. Love all three and especially like the New Vaquero. It has fixed sights, but at 20yds I can easily shoot out the bullseye on targets and it shoots EXACTLY to point of aim. Even though I shoot Rugers, I still do the load one, skip one, load four, cock and drop the hammer on the empty chamber. My recommendation: Try them both at your local range or at least handle them in a store. To that point: I cannot buy any SAA type revolver in .357/.38Spl. The bore is too small and the barrel too thick. The balance feels very forward biased. Whether with a 4 3/8"bbl or the 5 1/2"bbl, the 45LC feels perfect to me. So, definitely handle them and see what you like best then BUY IT! Regards, Mike

October 24, 2012, 07:16 PM	#31
Crunchy Frog Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2008 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 591	Flash, why cock the hammer on a Ruger New Model? When we load 'em with five rounds per SASS rules, the drill is: Open the loading gate; Load one, Skip one, Load four, Close the gate, Rotate the cylinder until it stops. Voila! Empty chamber is under the hammer.

October 26, 2012, 04:36 PM	#32
TheFlash Member Join Date: October 9, 2012 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 70	Hi Crunchy, I was taught that with Vaqueros or Blackhawks, if you close the loading gate and then rotate the cylinder, then the cylinder stop (or whatever that little locking notch is called) will drag against the cylinder and that's how you get those drag line scratches on the cylinder between the notches. If you close the loading gate and cock the hammer, the cylinder stop retracts, the cylinder rotates, you can safely ease the hammer down on the empty chamber using the trigger and nothing scrapes against the cylinder. Have you found that to NOT be the case if you just rotate the cylinder until it stops??? Regards, Mike

October 26, 2012, 08:38 PM	#33
Crunchy Frog Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2008 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 591	You have me there. I'll take a look the next time I have them out. I know at one point I tried rotating the cylinder to line up the empty chamber with the barrel before closing the gate, but too often I did not time it right, causing it to miss locking up at the desired point. I know that the "drill" for Colt style single actions is to pull the hammer to full cock before lowering on the empty chamber. If you let the hammer down from half cock it causes the bolt to drag on the cylinder.