September 18, 2008, 04:32 PM | #51 |
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The issue I am pointing out is that you think that your opinion about what is propaganda and bullying is not what many other members think. In fact, your smarmy comments here, and elsewhere, are perfect examples of both. You took a self-imposed sabbatical from L&P before. If L&P comes back, perhaps you should simply take another sabbatical?...that way you wont have to subject yourself to all the bickering and ultra leftist/rightist propaganda. I would say that you're the one demonizing.
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You really crack me up.
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Well said.
My point is that if you are not in favor of a L&P forum, fine. But if it does come back online...and you still feel that way, then just don't go in. Simple. |
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How does a "let the inmates run the asylum" mentality help solve the persistent problems that exist in legal sections of gun forums? How does "if you do not like it don't stay around" deal with the negative image of gun owners presented on these forums?
It was made pretty clear that the L&P section was not presenting a public image that was a positive one. It would be a very weak argument to try and say the forum was in anyway leaning left. The problem is not disagreements or debates. The problem is pretty much universally that the gun community is being unfairly represented as a bunch of right wing haters who accept no other opinions and are willing to use any means to squelch anyone that opposes them. There is an old saying that pretty much translates to "if you are asked if you have a crazy relative and you say no, you are probably the crazy one in your family." Maybe if the vast majority of people see a problem and certain people are unable to see that problem they are themselves a part of the problem. |
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I disagree.
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As Mike Irwin so eloquently. and sarcastically, put it:
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Another idea might be to somehow separate L&P in some way that it was not included in general searches. Meaning when you hit the "new posts" button you did not get L&P threads hitting you in the face. If you want to see L&P you have to willingly open the section itself. Still, the problem of L&P is a very deep and long running issue. One that has been around much longer than most of us and to think simple moderating will fix it is being very hopeful. |
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*sigh*
And that's about enough of that. pax |
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