Florida--looking better & better

MoW · April 10, 2005, 06:35 PM

http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-onlin...899A8KO0.shtml

hawken50 · April 10, 2005, 06:48 PM

That's it. i'm moving.

Wraith · April 10, 2005, 06:55 PM

That's about the best smile I had all day.

Trip20 · April 10, 2005, 07:54 PM

I hate Wisconsin.

snacktrack · April 10, 2005, 08:28 PM

This bill just makes sense. Why shouldnt people that are attacked be able to defend themselves? This bill does not allow people to go around provoking fights, only to defend when attacked. If you can do it in your home, why shouldnt you be able to do it wherever you go?

XavierBreath · April 10, 2005, 08:39 PM

The sad thing is a legislative bill had to pass to allow people to do what they already should have a right to do.

At least Florida is in the process of restoring rights rather than taking them away.

fwcofficer · April 10, 2005, 09:08 PM

I don't really see how it helps, I mean with or without the bill, if you felt your life was in danger you had the right to shoot? Am I right?

Whiskey Tango · April 10, 2005, 10:47 PM

Yes but the laws protect you from prosecution and civil suit from the BG and his family etc, that's where its value is. Not to mention without the duty to retreat, I assume one no longer needs to cower in the face of danger in their home or car.

GUNSMOKE45441 · April 11, 2005, 09:24 AM

OOOORRRAAAHHHH!!!!! Like Bush says it's common sense.
The Dems in NY. would dirty themselves if anyone proposed that.

brett23 · April 11, 2005, 12:51 PM

I hate Wisconsin.

I Love Florida.

dasmi · April 11, 2005, 01:05 PM

I hate California.

Quote:

"I'm sorry people, but if I'm attacked I shouldn't have a duty to retreat," said the bill's sponsor, Rep. Dennis Baxley, R-Ocala. "That's a good way to get shot in the back."

Makes sense to me.

stephen426 · April 11, 2005, 02:00 PM

Before you guys all pack up and move down here...

Don't forget what happened last summer with 4 freaking hurricanes, the mosquitos big enough to swat you back, and humidity so thick you need a machete to cut through.

On the other hand, no state income tax is a MAJOR plus. Good luck trying to find something in the Miami area though. Housing prices are flat out rediculous!

MX5 · April 11, 2005, 02:30 PM

Have you guys read the language of the bill? A person will still need to convince a jury they acted reasonably. Bills are nice, jury instructions are what matters.

Jkwas · April 11, 2005, 02:35 PM

I bought my guns after the hurricanes. No phone, no electric, no cops, no security. You're on your own.

Whiskey Tango · April 11, 2005, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Have you guys read the language of the bill? A person will still need to convince a jury they acted reasonably. Bills are nice, jury instructions are what matters.

You are absolutely right, and I don't think be that hard to prove its unreasonable to defend yourself when a person pulls a gun/knife on you wherever you are.

Then again, a jury did acquit OJ...

Duxman · April 11, 2005, 02:47 PM

In America, you are innocent until you are bankrupt.

Florida is a cool place to live. Although there is a high crime rate - there are a lot of beach babes there - which makes the hurricanes almost tolerable.

Enjoy your new law Floridians!!

stephen426 · April 11, 2005, 03:13 PM

Darn, I forgot to mention the beach babes!!! Miami has a lot of super hotties. Your chances are better than average too as many of the buff beach bums are homos!

.

As for Jkwas... you should have bought the guns before the hurricane. It could have been too late for you if things got really bad. I remember right after Hurrican Andrew, the freaking looters in the Cutler Ridge area were out in force before anyone else. Firearms are also handy for the jackasses that price gouge on stuff since they are in high demand. It is amazing how catastrophic events bring out the best in many poeple but bring out the worst in some.

:barf:

Jkwas · April 11, 2005, 03:38 PM

Yeah, well I had the shotgun for the hurricanes, but I felt that a pistol would be quicker to put into action, and easier to carry around, especially in the car.
we had looters in our subdivision as well. Kind of shook us up.

jburtonpdx · April 11, 2005, 05:58 PM

Ohio sucks

Shamus · April 11, 2005, 06:31 PM

Quote:

jburtonpdx
Ohio sucks

Ditto

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jburtonpdx · April 11, 2005, 06:50 PM

Shamus
You did that just to have one more post then me huh?

9mmsnoopy · April 11, 2005, 10:06 PM

hell florida, bout time ya'll get with the program.

and btw our mosquitoes are bigger than yours,our humidity is thicker than yours too. i live smack dab on the gulf so ya'll can win the hurricane title

stephen426 · April 12, 2005, 05:12 PM

Hey 9mmSnoopy,

This isn't a friggin contest. If I could pack up and send you our mosquito and humidity, I'd gladly let you have first place. You guys have state income taxes so the advantage goes to Florida.

gb_in_ga · April 12, 2005, 05:50 PM

Hmm, now if 9mmsnoopy is in the Houston area (where I'm originally from), and Houston is in Texas (last I checked it still is), and they haven't changed anything since I left back in '99 (and they haven't), then no, Texas still doesn't have a state income tax.

http://www.taxesindepth.com/state-taxes-Texas.html

9mmsnoopy · April 12, 2005, 08:35 PM

we have NO state income tax in Texas........ YET

April 10, 2005, 06:35 PM	#1
MoW Junior member Join Date: January 27, 2005 Posts: 1,009	Florida--looking better & better http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-onlin...899A8KO0.shtml

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April 10, 2005, 08:28 PM	#5
snacktrack Senior Member Join Date: January 20, 2005 Location: Wilmington DE Posts: 291	This bill just makes sense. Why shouldnt people that are attacked be able to defend themselves? This bill does not allow people to go around provoking fights, only to defend when attacked. If you can do it in your home, why shouldnt you be able to do it wherever you go? __________________ S&W340PD w/ lg-305 CT grips S&W 1911PD commander w/ CT grips (on order, any day now!!) Imagination is more important than knowledge. -- Albert Einstein My band's website: daughter darling

April 10, 2005, 08:39 PM	#6
XavierBreath Senior Member Join Date: December 6, 2002 Location: North Louisiana Posts: 2,800	The sad thing is a legislative bill had to pass to allow people to do what they already should have a right to do. At least Florida is in the process of restoring rights rather than taking them away. __________________ Xavier's Blog

April 10, 2005, 07:54 PM	#4
Trip20 Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 2005 Posts: 2,181	I hate Wisconsin.

April 10, 2005, 09:08 PM	#7
fwcofficer Senior Member Join Date: February 14, 2005 Location: Miami, Fl (Northern Cuba) Posts: 197	I don't really see how it helps, I mean with or without the bill, if you felt your life was in danger you had the right to shoot? Am I right? __________________ #20 Tony Stewart

April 10, 2005, 10:47 PM	#8
Whiskey Tango Junior member Join Date: April 8, 2005 Posts: 58	Yes but the laws protect you from prosecution and civil suit from the BG and his family etc, that's where its value is. Not to mention without the duty to retreat, I assume one no longer needs to cower in the face of danger in their home or car.

April 11, 2005, 09:24 AM	#9
GUNSMOKE45441 Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2004 Posts: 129	OOOORRRAAAHHHH!!!!! Like Bush says it's common sense. The Dems in NY. would dirty themselves if anyone proposed that.

April 11, 2005, 12:51 PM	#10
brett23 Junior member Join Date: July 17, 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 82	I hate Wisconsin. I Love Florida.

April 11, 2005, 02:00 PM	#12
stephen426 Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2005 Posts: 3,840	Before you guys all pack up and move down here... Don't forget what happened last summer with 4 freaking hurricanes, the mosquitos big enough to swat you back, and humidity so thick you need a machete to cut through. On the other hand, no state income tax is a MAJOR plus. Good luck trying to find something in the Miami area though. Housing prices are flat out rediculous! __________________ The ATF should be a convenience store instead of a government agency!

April 11, 2005, 02:30 PM	#13
MX5 Member Join Date: May 18, 2004 Posts: 70	Have you guys read the language of the bill? A person will still need to convince a jury they acted reasonably. Bills are nice, jury instructions are what matters.

April 11, 2005, 02:35 PM	#14
Jkwas Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 2005 Location: Mouth of the Rat, Florida Posts: 1,778	I bought my guns after the hurricanes. No phone, no electric, no cops, no security. You're on your own.

April 11, 2005, 02:47 PM	#16
Duxman Senior Member Join Date: February 16, 2005 Location: VA Posts: 1,294	In America, you are innocent until you are bankrupt. Florida is a cool place to live. Although there is a high crime rate - there are a lot of beach babes there - which makes the hurricanes almost tolerable. Enjoy your new law Floridians!!

April 11, 2005, 03:13 PM	#17
stephen426 Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2005 Posts: 3,840	Darn, I forgot to mention the beach babes!!! Miami has a lot of super hotties. Your chances are better than average too as many of the buff beach bums are homos! . As for Jkwas... you should have bought the guns before the hurricane. It could have been too late for you if things got really bad. I remember right after Hurrican Andrew, the freaking looters in the Cutler Ridge area were out in force before anyone else. Firearms are also handy for the jackasses that price gouge on stuff since they are in high demand. It is amazing how catastrophic events bring out the best in many poeple but bring out the worst in some. :barf: __________________ The ATF should be a convenience store instead of a government agency!

April 11, 2005, 03:38 PM	#18
Jkwas Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 2005 Location: Mouth of the Rat, Florida Posts: 1,778	Yeah, well I had the shotgun for the hurricanes, but I felt that a pistol would be quicker to put into action, and easier to carry around, especially in the car. we had looters in our subdivision as well. Kind of shook us up.

April 11, 2005, 05:58 PM	#19
jburtonpdx Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2005 Posts: 267	Ohio sucks

April 11, 2005, 06:50 PM	#21
jburtonpdx Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2005 Posts: 267	Shamus You did that just to have one more post then me huh?

April 11, 2005, 10:06 PM	#22
9mmsnoopy Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2004 Location: Thrillsville ,Tx Posts: 904	hell florida, bout time ya'll get with the program. and btw our mosquitoes are bigger than yours,our humidity is thicker than yours too. i live smack dab on the gulf so ya'll can win the hurricane title __________________ beretta cx4 storm .40 caliber sig P290 Kahr PM9 Glock 26 Bushmaster AR15

April 12, 2005, 05:12 PM	#23
stephen426 Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2005 Posts: 3,840	Hey 9mmSnoopy, This isn't a friggin contest. If I could pack up and send you our mosquito and humidity, I'd gladly let you have first place. You guys have state income taxes so the advantage goes to Florida. __________________ The ATF should be a convenience store instead of a government agency!

April 12, 2005, 05:50 PM	#24
gb_in_ga Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 2005 Location: Pensacola, Fl Posts: 3,092	Hmm, now if 9mmsnoopy is in the Houston area (where I'm originally from), and Houston is in Texas (last I checked it still is), and they haven't changed anything since I left back in '99 (and they haven't), then no, Texas still doesn't have a state income tax. http://www.taxesindepth.com/state-taxes-Texas.html __________________ COME AND TAKE IT http://www.tamu.edu/ccbn/dewitt/batgon.htm Formerly lived in Ga, but now I'm back in Tx! Aaaand, now I'm off to Fla...

April 12, 2005, 08:35 PM	#25
9mmsnoopy Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2004 Location: Thrillsville ,Tx Posts: 904	we have NO state income tax in Texas........ YET __________________ beretta cx4 storm .40 caliber sig P290 Kahr PM9 Glock 26 Bushmaster AR15

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