Purchasing FA parts

RugerGP100357 · July 12, 2006, 11:16 AM

I'm planning to use M16 internals in my AR15 project.
At every website i find where they sell M16 parts it says: "All NFA rules apply"

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Does that mean i have to be a US citizen with a special form of licence?

Hope i dont

shaggy · July 12, 2006, 11:46 AM

In the US, even possession of the M16 fire control components with an AR15 can be enough to get a felony conviction, but as you are outside of the US you face a different problem in obtaining those parts. Export of weapons, parts, and other items of military use are governed by ITAR (International Traffic in Arms Regulations) through the US Dept. of State. While I'm no expert on ITAR, I believe the manufacturer would first have to obtain an export permit to send you those parts; something I doubt they'd do for a small sale of just a few parts.

MisterPX · July 12, 2006, 03:35 PM

You may want to check out ar15france.com for some answers, seeing as how they're a lot closer and would have more knowledge on European laws.

RugerGP100357 · July 12, 2006, 08:05 PM

Thanks for the answers, but i already know the law here in Norway: Everything exept barrels and receivers are toys for children.
Normal AR-15 parts are no problem when ordering from the US, i just press order and they turn up 2 weeks later.
But when i look up M16 parts its always big, red letters saying "all NFA rules apply!". Does this mean that I, as an civillian can't order these items without a special permit?
I found some cheap parts at ftf industries, anyone know anything about them?

VUPDblue · July 12, 2006, 08:53 PM

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But when i look up M16 parts its always big, red letters saying "all NFA rules apply!". Does this mean that I, as an civillian can't order these items without a special permit?

The parts you are looking at are probably not RLL's or RDIAS's, just generic M16 parts. The disclaimer of "all NFA rules apply" is the seller(s) saying that they are not responsible for what you do with those parts. As long as they are not NFA items, you need no permits to buy them. Since you are in Norway, the NFA doesn't apply to you anyway.

Hkmp5sd · July 12, 2006, 11:24 PM

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Thanks for the answers, but i already know the law here in Norway: Everything exept barrels and receivers are toys for children.

The problem isn't your laws, but our laws. M16s are military weapons in the US and exporting military parts falls under many different government groups.

The "NFA Rule Apply" has no meaning for you, so just order the parts and see what happens.

RugerGP100357 · July 13, 2006, 07:27 AM

Thanks for the help!
I'll try it out as soon as i get my hands on enough money.

July 12, 2006, 11:16 AM	#1
RugerGP100357 Member Join Date: December 29, 2005 Posts: 23	Purchasing FA parts I'm planning to use M16 internals in my AR15 project. At every website i find where they sell M16 parts it says: "All NFA rules apply" . Does that mean i have to be a US citizen with a special form of licence? Hope i dont __________________ "Your first gun is the one gun you'll always shoot the best with!"; Word of wisdom. Logic explanation: its because you play with it 3 hours a day unntil you buy another.

July 12, 2006, 08:05 PM	#4
RugerGP100357 Member Join Date: December 29, 2005 Posts: 23	Thanks for the answers, but i already know the law here in Norway: Everything exept barrels and receivers are toys for children. Normal AR-15 parts are no problem when ordering from the US, i just press order and they turn up 2 weeks later. But when i look up M16 parts its always big, red letters saying "all NFA rules apply!". Does this mean that I, as an civillian can't order these items without a special permit? I found some cheap parts at ftf industries, anyone know anything about them? __________________ "Your first gun is the one gun you'll always shoot the best with!"; Word of wisdom. Logic explanation: its because you play with it 3 hours a day unntil you buy another.

July 13, 2006, 07:27 AM	#7
RugerGP100357 Member Join Date: December 29, 2005 Posts: 23	Thanks for the help! I'll try it out as soon as i get my hands on enough money. __________________ "Your first gun is the one gun you'll always shoot the best with!"; Word of wisdom. Logic explanation: its because you play with it 3 hours a day unntil you buy another.

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July 12, 2006, 11:46 AM	#2
shaggy Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2004 Posts: 1,519	In the US, even possession of the M16 fire control components with an AR15 can be enough to get a felony conviction, but as you are outside of the US you face a different problem in obtaining those parts. Export of weapons, parts, and other items of military use are governed by ITAR (International Traffic in Arms Regulations) through the US Dept. of State. While I'm no expert on ITAR, I believe the manufacturer would first have to obtain an export permit to send you those parts; something I doubt they'd do for a small sale of just a few parts.

July 12, 2006, 03:35 PM	#3
MisterPX Senior Member Join Date: April 25, 2006 Location: Amerika's Doyleland Posts: 809	You may want to check out ar15france.com for some answers, seeing as how they're a lot closer and would have more knowledge on European laws.