Info about A-Merc .45acp brass?

Rod from MO · June 18, 2000, 08:35 PM

Can anyone give me some information about .45acp A-Merc brass? I "found" about 100 cases at the range a while back and have been reloading it. About 15-20% of it will not fit in the shellplate of my Square Deal B, and 100% of it will not chamber in my Midway go/no go gauge. It does feed and function satisfactorily in my Springfield 1911 though. I've just never heard of this brass before, and was wondering if it's made in the U.S. or foreign. Any help will be appreciated. I'm a new poster to this forum.

Halo · June 18, 2000, 09:47 PM

You have found some brass from the infamous American Ammunition, the crap that comes in the clear eggcrate type boxes. My experiences with that ammo, along with the tales of others, have convinced me never to even try reloading it. I trash any that I find while sorting brass.

Big_Al · January 23, 2005, 07:22 PM

Jams my 650 also--I can always tell if an A-Merc case got mixed in with good brass. Straight to the garbage can for the A-Merc! My advice would to never buy any, and pitch any of these cases you pick up at the range.

Big Al

PhotoRecon · January 23, 2005, 11:00 PM

The A-Merc we encountered had undersized bullets and extra thick brass at the casemouth. When we tried to reload it with .452" bullets the brass would bulge well past the SAAMI maximum. The boxes have changed to cardboard with pictures of ammunition. What is inside doesn't appear to have changed.

knightkrawler00 · January 24, 2005, 03:27 PM

I never had a problem with A-Merc brass chambering in my Springfield. But after two primers fell out somewhere betwen loading and shooting, I quit using it. I only loaded about 100 of them in one batch, and heard of this from quite a few people. It now goes in the trash whenever I see it.

jerryd · January 24, 2005, 04:26 PM

Trash can Ammo! Primers wont stay in, rim to thick, wont function in all my pistols! They are part of IMI isreal military Ind. which makes TZZ ammo, now that is good stuff!!! Keep that i have had some for about 15 reloads, excellent!!!

LdyAtavist · January 24, 2005, 04:37 PM

I always carefully sort my brass to get rid of Amerc brass. Primers fall out of it when it is factory new, so I certainly don't want to use it for reloads.

SnWnMe · January 25, 2005, 02:13 AM

When I primed my first range pick up A-Merc, I KNEW something was wrong. Primer went right in with no "feel". Likewise I trash em when I find em in my pick ups.

Master Blaster · January 25, 2005, 08:30 AM

Amerc= garbage throw it away.

redrooster2 · January 26, 2005, 01:25 AM

Trash the Amerc --- it's not worth the effort.

Sam Adams · January 27, 2005, 02:12 PM

Quote:

They are part of IMI isreal military Ind. which makes TZZ ammo, now that is good stuff!!! Keep that i have had some for about 15 reloads, excellent!!!

A-Merc is NOT, repeat NOT, made by IMI. Check out the following:
A-MERC American Ammunition Co., 3545 NW 71st St, Miami, FL 33147 USA

http://cartridgecollectors.org/headstampcodes.htm

I've used IMI products ranging from Q3131A Winchester .223 to Hansen ammo to Samson ammo, to new cases ordered from various sources, and ALL of it is of the highest quality - this means both the cases and the rounds of ammo. A-merc is total crap - throw it in the trash can.

PhotoRecon · January 27, 2005, 04:31 PM

http://www.a-merc.com/partners.htm

A-Merc and IMI have formed a partnership.

It is rumored that A-Merc will be using some IMI components in A-Merc ammunition as part of the partnership. I presume IMI will continue to produce all of its own product or at least I hope they do.

IronLance · January 29, 2005, 12:15 AM

Echo of all the other posts: A-Merc isn't even worth looking at except when culling it out of your good stuff.

In addition to over large primer pockets, you'll find that a lot of the cases the flash hole will be off center. A few times I reloaded brass I hadn't checked and thought I'd broken my decapping pin after hitting an A-Merc case.

Wayde

ltcjmb · February 28, 2005, 08:50 PM

A-Merc is bad stuff.
Cases too long to chamber even on brand new stuff.
Be safe and get rid of it permanently.

Bass Man · March 1, 2005, 08:36 AM

Rod,

What range do you shoot on. I found a few A-Merc 40 S&W at the range near Pleasant Hope. I picked up several hundred 9mm and 40 S&W and a few 45 auto and found 4-5 A-Merc 40s. I guess I'll throw those in the scrap brass bag.

G56 · March 1, 2005, 03:48 PM

IMI is selling some bullets to American Ammunition, IMI bullets are fine, but when you put them in Amerc's junk brass and careless loading procedures you still have junk ammo. Putting a pretty pink bow on junk doesn't change the junk that's underneath.

The rounds assembled with IMI manufactured bullets include:

9mm 115 gr DI-CUT
9mm 115gr EX-STAR
9mm 95gr JSP-FN
9mm 158gr SUBSONIC
.38 spl 125gr JHP
.45 auto 185gr FMJ-SWC
223 (5.56) REM 62gr SS109

http://www.imisammo.co.il/news.htm

January 23, 2005, 11:00 PM	#4
PhotoRecon Member Join Date: November 29, 2004 Location: Central Montana Posts: 42	The A-Merc we encountered had undersized bullets and extra thick brass at the casemouth. When we tried to reload it with .452" bullets the brass would bulge well past the SAAMI maximum. The boxes have changed to cardboard with pictures of ammunition. What is inside doesn't appear to have changed. __________________ NRA Life Member since 1982

January 24, 2005, 04:37 PM	#7
LdyAtavist Member Join Date: October 3, 2004 Posts: 19	Trash it... I always carefully sort my brass to get rid of Amerc brass. Primers fall out of it when it is factory new, so I certainly don't want to use it for reloads.

January 25, 2005, 02:13 AM	#8
SnWnMe Senior Member Join Date: November 4, 2004 Location: So Cal Posts: 381	When I primed my first range pick up A-Merc, I KNEW something was wrong. Primer went right in with no "feel". Likewise I trash em when I find em in my pick ups. __________________ If you can kick in the pants the person responsible for your problems, you won't be able to sit for a month.

January 27, 2005, 04:31 PM	#12
PhotoRecon Member Join Date: November 29, 2004 Location: Central Montana Posts: 42	http://www.a-merc.com/partners.htm A-Merc and IMI have formed a partnership. It is rumored that A-Merc will be using some IMI components in A-Merc ammunition as part of the partnership. I presume IMI will continue to produce all of its own product or at least I hope they do. __________________ NRA Life Member since 1982

January 29, 2005, 12:15 AM	#13
IronLance Member Join Date: May 24, 2004 Location: Dakotas Posts: 71	Echo of all the other posts: A-Merc isn't even worth looking at except when culling it out of your good stuff. In addition to over large primer pockets, you'll find that a lot of the cases the flash hole will be off center. A few times I reloaded brass I hadn't checked and thought I'd broken my decapping pin after hitting an A-Merc case. Wayde __________________ Freedom restricted by personal conscience is a choice. Freedom restricted by legislation or regulation becomes a privilege that can be taxed or taken away.

June 18, 2000, 08:35 PM	#1
Rod from MO Junior Member Join Date: June 10, 2000 Location: Springfield, Missouri, USA Posts: 10	Can anyone give me some information about .45acp A-Merc brass? I "found" about 100 cases at the range a while back and have been reloading it. About 15-20% of it will not fit in the shellplate of my Square Deal B, and 100% of it will not chamber in my Midway go/no go gauge. It does feed and function satisfactorily in my Springfield 1911 though. I've just never heard of this brass before, and was wondering if it's made in the U.S. or foreign. Any help will be appreciated. I'm a new poster to this forum.

June 18, 2000, 09:47 PM	#2
Halo Senior Member Join Date: June 12, 2000 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 408	You have found some brass from the infamous American Ammunition, the crap that comes in the clear eggcrate type boxes. My experiences with that ammo, along with the tales of others, have convinced me never to even try reloading it. I trash any that I find while sorting brass.

January 23, 2005, 07:22 PM	#3
Big_Al Junior Member Join Date: January 23, 2005 Location: WA Posts: 2	Jams my 650 also--I can always tell if an A-Merc case got mixed in with good brass. Straight to the garbage can for the A-Merc! My advice would to never buy any, and pitch any of these cases you pick up at the range. Big Al

January 24, 2005, 03:27 PM	#5
knightkrawler00 Senior Member Join Date: May 28, 2004 Location: Prosser WA Posts: 103	I never had a problem with A-Merc brass chambering in my Springfield. But after two primers fell out somewhere betwen loading and shooting, I quit using it. I only loaded about 100 of them in one batch, and heard of this from quite a few people. It now goes in the trash whenever I see it.

January 24, 2005, 04:26 PM	#6
jerryd Senior Member Join Date: May 21, 2004 Location: Ct. Posts: 131	Trash can Ammo! Primers wont stay in, rim to thick, wont function in all my pistols! They are part of IMI isreal military Ind. which makes TZZ ammo, now that is good stuff!!! Keep that i have had some for about 15 reloads, excellent!!!

January 25, 2005, 08:30 AM	#9
Master Blaster Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 1999 Location: One of the original 13 Colonies Posts: 2,281	Amerc= garbage throw it away.

January 26, 2005, 01:25 AM	#10
redrooster2 Member Join Date: September 23, 2004 Location: north of Acadiana Posts: 80	Trash the Amerc --- it's not worth the effort.

February 28, 2005, 08:50 PM	#14
ltcjmb Junior Member Join Date: August 26, 2004 Posts: 3	Crush it A-Merc is bad stuff. Cases too long to chamber even on brand new stuff. Be safe and get rid of it permanently.

March 1, 2005, 08:36 AM	#15
Bass Man Member Join Date: December 26, 2004 Location: Missouri Posts: 92	Rod, What range do you shoot on. I found a few A-Merc 40 S&W at the range near Pleasant Hope. I picked up several hundred 9mm and 40 S&W and a few 45 auto and found 4-5 A-Merc 40s. I guess I'll throw those in the scrap brass bag.

March 1, 2005, 03:48 PM	#16
G56 Senior Member Join Date: June 10, 2004 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 302	IMI is selling some bullets to American Ammunition, IMI bullets are fine, but when you put them in Amerc's junk brass and careless loading procedures you still have junk ammo. Putting a pretty pink bow on junk doesn't change the junk that's underneath. The rounds assembled with IMI manufactured bullets include: 9mm 115 gr DI-CUT 9mm 115gr EX-STAR 9mm 95gr JSP-FN 9mm 158gr SUBSONIC .38 spl 125gr JHP .45 auto 185gr FMJ-SWC 223 (5.56) REM 62gr SS109 http://www.imisammo.co.il/news.htm __________________ John