I have this old gun safe

MR-7-45 · October 17, 2013, 07:30 PM

I have this old rolled steel standing gun safe. I have the combination, key and combination change key. I cannot find the instructions for changing the combination.
I have looked on the internet and found several sets of instructions for a 3 wheel lock, but they seem to be all slightly different.

Can anyone recognize the logo on the front of the safe? Can anyone direct me to the correct set of instructions for changing the combination? This safe was purchased by a relative in the 70's or early 80's

Thanks in advance.

**Mike Irwin** · October 18, 2013, 01:45 PM

This is one of those situations where it might simply be best to call in a locksmith for a couple of reasons.

1. He should be able to change the dial combination without breaking a sweat.

2. He can make sure that the lock is in proper working order (not showing undue wear) and can clean and lubricate it, which probably isn't a bad idea after that many years.

3. He can rekey the lock cylinder if you don't have access to all of the keys.

I know more than one person who tried changing the combination on a lock and ended up calling a locksmith because they did something wrong...

Colokeb · October 18, 2013, 03:56 PM

Have you looked in the door jams and door edges?

armsmaster270 · October 19, 2013, 01:03 AM

Take the sheetmetal cover off the inside (back of the door) then you can see the box containing the wheel pack the box should have the makers information on it. DO NOT take the back off the box as you will engage the anti tamper relocker.

JimmyR · October 19, 2013, 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Irwin

This is one of those situations where it might simply be best to call in a locksmith for a couple of reasons.

This

There comes a time when the best thing to do is call a professional. That time comes when the risk of malfunction offsets the cost saved by doing it onesself.

MR-7-45 · October 24, 2013, 03:04 PM

I did what Armsmaster suggested and took the cover off the inside of the door. It turns out to be a pretty common LaGard 3330 3 wheel combination lock. With that info, I was able to find the correct instructions online from Lang Locks in Edmonton, AB. He was great and sent me instructions.
I was able to then successfully change the combination.

Thanks for the advice.

October 18, 2013, 01:45 PM	#2
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,383	This is one of those situations where it might simply be best to call in a locksmith for a couple of reasons. 1. He should be able to change the dial combination without breaking a sweat. 2. He can make sure that the lock is in proper working order (not showing undue wear) and can clean and lubricate it, which probably isn't a bad idea after that many years. 3. He can rekey the lock cylinder if you don't have access to all of the keys. I know more than one person who tried changing the combination on a lock and ended up calling a locksmith because they did something wrong... __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

October 19, 2013, 01:03 AM	#4
armsmaster270 Senior Member Join Date: November 25, 2008 Location: California Posts: 1,951	Take the sheetmetal cover off the inside (back of the door) then you can see the box containing the wheel pack the box should have the makers information on it. DO NOT take the back off the box as you will engage the anti tamper relocker. __________________ http://www.armsmaster.net-a.googlepages.com http://s239.photobucket.com/albums/f...aster270/Guns/ Retired LE, M.P., Sr. M.P. Investigator F.B.I. Trained Rangemaster/Firearms Instructor & Armorer, Presently Forensic Document Examiner for D.H.S.

October 24, 2013, 03:04 PM	#6
MR-7-45 Member Join Date: October 4, 2005 Location: Central Texas Posts: 70	I did what Armsmaster suggested and took the cover off the inside of the door. It turns out to be a pretty common LaGard 3330 3 wheel combination lock. With that info, I was able to find the correct instructions online from Lang Locks in Edmonton, AB. He was great and sent me instructions. I was able to then successfully change the combination. Thanks for the advice. __________________ MR-7-45 Life Member NRA & VFW I load my own.

October 18, 2013, 03:56 PM	#3
Colokeb Member Join Date: February 15, 2008 Location: west Posts: 86	Have you looked in the door jams and door edges?