The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > The Skunkworks > Handloading, Reloading, and Bullet Casting

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old April 24, 2015, 11:56 PM   #26
GWS
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 8, 2010
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 688
There are so many reasons, but the three that I like tonight, is:

1. Clean and shiny brass means it's clean and shiny safe! That means I can quit worrying about whether if I got it clean enough to put in my dies or my guns.

Before I bought my first tumbler......maybe I cleaned it maybe I didn't.......two weeks ago. Couldn't always remember, so I don't doubt that some got cleaned more than one.....and that's frustrating.

2. Bling makes good ammo look like it's good ammo. It gives others the impression that maybe your "reloads" are as professionally done as factory ammo. Yes I know, that could be a shallow perception of reality. But perception is as important as reality if you want people to feel safe around you. Just don't screw that up with dangereous shiny reloads!

3. I shoot better. The ammo doesn't......I do. Why diminish a good mood with ugly ammo. I bet everyone shoots better when they feel good, mentally, or physically.
GWS is offline  
Old April 25, 2015, 06:01 AM   #27
FrankenMauser
Senior Member
 
Join Date: August 25, 2008
Location: In the valley above the plain
Posts: 13,424
The only significant reason I used to tumble brass, and currently have a 2+ year backlog stacked up and waiting to be cleaned.....

...is because 90% of my "new" brass is range pickup brass.
It's usually dusty.
Sometimes it's muddy.
Once in a while the cases might even have some grit embedded in them.

And, even my good brass often hits the dirt, in the middle of the desert, when I'm shooting.

I don't want that crap getting anywhere near my dies.

I'll get another tumbler, one of these days. But, until then, I'll continue running the nasty, dirty brass into the universal decapping die that's mounted in a Lee Reloader press (I don't want that nasty grit on any of my good presses, either ), and piling the brass up for that 'one day'....



Attached Images
File Type: jpg dirty_brass_8.jpg (242.5 KB, 95 views)
File Type: jpg decapper_668.jpg (226.7 KB, 2144 views)
__________________
Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.
FrankenMauser is offline  
Old April 25, 2015, 08:51 AM   #28
rtpzwms
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 6, 2010
Location: OTS
Posts: 1,035
it is well know that clean pretty brass will make clean pretty holes in targets. dirty ugly brass will make black holes.(think deep space)
__________________
Experience is what you get when you don’t get what you want.
rtpzwms is offline  
Old April 25, 2015, 09:00 AM   #29
WVMountaineer
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 11, 2015
Posts: 330
I have to admit, while I have loaded some without tumbling/cleaning them, the vast majority were tumbled between stages of processing.

Certain things aren't meant for chambers,bolts, barrels, etc... Tumbling removes all the things that don't belong. If you don't remove the crud from your brass, your firearm will. My firearm isn't a dust pan. God Bless
WVMountaineer is offline  
Old April 25, 2015, 12:43 PM   #30
tobnpr
Senior Member
 
Join Date: August 1, 2010
Location: Tampa Bay
Posts: 4,556
"Finish" makes no difference, never have "gotten" the rationale to spend hundreds of $$ on ultrasonic and the like, then have to dry your brass in the oven, etc. I'm all about spending less time- not more- on reloading.

"Clean", however- can make a huge difference. I usually single-load my bolt guns at the range- so the brass goes from the case, to rifle, back to case.

With semi's like our AR-15's and AR-10, the brass ends up on the concrete, sand, and grass. If it's not thoroughly cleaned, any grit- small as it may be- can scratch your sizing die and the brass. Remember, the tolerances you're dealing with here are in thousandth's of an inch, or less.
__________________
Remington 700/Savage Rebarreling /Action Blueprinting
07 FFL /Mosin-Nagant Custom Shop/Bent Bolts
Genuine Cerakote Applicator
www.biggorillagunworks.com
tobnpr is offline  
Old April 26, 2015, 10:07 AM   #31
William T. Watts
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 20, 2010
Location: Central Arkansas
Posts: 1,074
Hat off to shootest

I can't improve on shootest's comment, I didn't clean my cases for a time because I couldn't afford a tumbler.. William
William T. Watts is offline  
Old April 26, 2015, 11:10 AM   #32
mikld
Senior Member
 
Join Date: February 7, 2009
Location: Southern Oregon!
Posts: 2,891
I memmer going to a police range in the mid seventies and watching a couple old fellers shoot their 1911s, and they were shooting a lot. First thing I noticed was they picked up all their brass. Then I looked at the targets; no X ring left, all shot out (also known as "good shootin'!"). When I got a little closer I noticed all their ammo was brown, not shiny brass. I guess this was before tumbling became a necessity or a measure of a reloader's quality...
__________________
My Anchor is holding fast!
I've learned how to stand on my own two knees...

Last edited by mikld; April 26, 2015 at 11:38 AM.
mikld is offline  
Old April 26, 2015, 11:59 AM   #33
Marco Califo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 4, 2011
Location: LA (Greater Los Angeles Area)
Posts: 2,598
Toxic compounds

Toxic compounds are present in the residue on fired brass. Lead is there even if you are using jacket bullets, because all US primers contain lead. Look at your hands after handling fired brass. Then wash your hands.

Dish washing detergent in hot water removes 99%. I deprime first so they drain better. Tumbling gets the other 1% and convinces you they are clean. The shinier the better.

Clean brass is also much easier on sizing dies as all grit is gone.

Then I tumble after sizing, to remove the sizing lubricant. I use Lithium grease to prevent bipolar brass.
__________________
............
Marco Califo is online now  
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:20 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2021 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Page generated in 0.06487 seconds with 9 queries