Condition 3 and revolver precautions - Page 2

**Frank Ettin** · December 8, 2011, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pond, James Pond

...I live in Estonia, hence why you probably hadn't heard of that law...

That explains it.

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Originally Posted by Pond, James Pond

...I ...have to keep weapons in a safe!..

But you can carry your gun outside the home? I ask because a gun grab tends to be an issue only when carrying a gun. If you have access to your gun only for home defense, your gun will be in your hand if you perceive a threat. And if you're concerned about the gun being taken from you when it's in your hand, there are some more significant tactical issues to be concerned with.

If you do carry, then a revolver might be a better choice. Needing two hands to put the gun to use can be a major problem (see post 12).

MLeake · December 8, 2011, 07:59 PM

In response to Casimer:

One advantage to the lack of second strike capability that many complain about re: Glock, M&P, etc is that one does not waste time pulling the trigger a second time on an empty chamber - it is not an option.

Personally, I think second strike is not a good idea. It will only help for limited types of stoppages; I prefer to go directly into stoppage clearing mode.

MLeake · December 8, 2011, 08:01 PM

If I had to carry in condition 3, I would put extra training time into learning to cycle the slide using only one hand - with each hand.

Pond, James Pond · December 9, 2011, 01:57 AM

@ Aarondgraham

Yes, I've known about that law all along, and I was leaning towards revolvers on the practical front, but the problem was the absolutely ridiculous retail prices on wheelguns. I could get an HK for the price of a Taurus revolver over here. I got the Glock first for that reason. A decent gun at the right price. The Redhawk came up later and was far too good a deal to pass up.

@ fiddletown

I can carry outside the home, but at the moment I don't and I don't yet know if I will, with the exception of forest camping with my dogs...

@ Mleake

Re racking one handed, I'm planning to do that.
The place is a building site right now so everytime I want to get the gun out I have to move a ton of stuff, so spontaneous training sessions have to be planned hours in advance!!

December 9, 2011, 01:57 AM	#29
Pond, James Pond Senior Member Join Date: July 12, 2011 Location: Top of the Baltic stack Posts: 6,079	@ Aarondgraham Yes, I've known about that law all along, and I was leaning towards revolvers on the practical front, but the problem was the absolutely ridiculous retail prices on wheelguns. I could get an HK for the price of a Taurus revolver over here. I got the Glock first for that reason. A decent gun at the right price. The Redhawk came up later and was far too good a deal to pass up. @ fiddletown I can carry outside the home, but at the moment I don't and I don't yet know if I will, with the exception of forest camping with my dogs... @ Mleake Re racking one handed, I'm planning to do that. The place is a building site right now so everytime I want to get the gun out I have to move a ton of stuff, so spontaneous training sessions have to be planned hours in advance!! __________________ When the right to effective self-defence is denied, that right to self-defence which remains is essentially symbolic. Freedom: Please enjoy responsibly.

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December 8, 2011, 07:59 PM	#27
MLeake Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: Outside KC, MO Posts: 10,128	In response to Casimer: One advantage to the lack of second strike capability that many complain about re: Glock, M&P, etc is that one does not waste time pulling the trigger a second time on an empty chamber - it is not an option. Personally, I think second strike is not a good idea. It will only help for limited types of stoppages; I prefer to go directly into stoppage clearing mode.

December 8, 2011, 08:01 PM	#28
MLeake Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: Outside KC, MO Posts: 10,128	If I had to carry in condition 3, I would put extra training time into learning to cycle the slide using only one hand - with each hand.