Want to hunt boar.

AndrewTB · September 10, 2005, 09:13 PM

Well im debating hunting. Ive thought about an animal I could hunt without feeling guilty and having something that taste good.

Ive narrowed it down to boar just because they can be pretty nasty and im told its more of a challenge. I may be incorrect. Ive never hunted at all. So ive come here to get some insight on how to get started! I wouldnt know where to start. Id also want to figure out how to kill the damned things without having them scream. LOL an odd request but im a noob. I want to start off slowly.

butch50 · September 10, 2005, 10:08 PM

If you have never hunted at all, are you going to be with an experienced hunter? If you are, then go with what he suggests.

If you are going hunting solo and have never hunted before - then I would suggest that you start with small game such as rabbits and/or squirrels. They are excellent eating, easily dressed and handled by a novice and provide much enjoyment in hunting. They will provide you with experience and field craft for hunting the larger animals later as you get comfortable with hunting.

If you are going on a guided hunt, then do as the guide suggests. Hog hunting with an experienced hunter would be a blast for you - but hog hunting on your own, without previous experience hunting, might become discouraging.

CobrayCommando · September 10, 2005, 10:38 PM

Ugly things are probably easier to kill, and I have the same question about screaming.

AndrewTB · September 10, 2005, 11:03 PM

I wouldnt mind starting with small game but rabbits and squirrels are out of the question. Is there anything thats ugly that wont make me feel as bad? I know it sounds funny but the Rabbits, Deer and Squirrels are my favorite animals.

butch50 · September 11, 2005, 10:06 AM

Hogs are about as ugly as they come. I am having difficulty understanding why you want to hunt at all though, if your desire to kill an animal is based on where it falls on the "pretty" scale. That seems odd to me. Ugly animals have as much right to their existence as pretty animals do, and vice versa.....

Since you have never hunted you are probably not going to enjoy the part that follows the kill - field dressing it, dragging it out to your car or camp, hanging it up in a tree, skinning it, butchering the meat, wrapping the meat and fitting it all into your freezer, several hours of just plain hard dirty work. And if you don't do that with some skill and knowledge, you aren't going to enjoy eating it later because you will have ruined much of the meat. You should have someone experienced help you with this, if at all possible. You may find that doing all of that in hot weather is especially unpleasant - but in Florida guess you don't have much choice (In large part my suggestion to start with small game is because the "after the kill experience" will be better if you start small, so to speak).

I was raised to hunt based upon the "delicious" scale. But I was taught to hunt by an extremely rare individual, a true conservationist of the first magnitude. A man who grew up subsistence hunting for meat, not at all for sport. My family hunted for what tasted best on the table. I will put small game up at the top of that list any day.

Times do change though.

Mannlicher · September 11, 2005, 09:26 PM

Lots of places to hunt piggies in Fla, here are some links

http://www.a-wild-boar-hog-hunting-f...e-service.com/

http://www.huntinginflorida.com/wildhog_hunts.html

http://www.ronsguideservice.com/boar.htm

Don't worry about your total lack of experience. Any of these outfits will treat you right.

AndrewTB · September 13, 2005, 08:13 PM

LOL its not mainly the prettyness factor but let me break it down.

I love rabbits and have had pet rabbits. Its my favorite animal therfore I can't hunt it.

Squirrels used to come to me so I would give them bread when I was little. So its a mental thing.

AS for deer. I can't kill bamby! LOL Im sorry if I sound like a fruit. I really ain't.

I narrowed it down to boar because I heard supposedly they put more of a fight up. I also hear its lots more fun then hunting the other things I mentioned. IM going mainly by hearsay and research on the internet so I may be wrong. I also heard boar is very tasty.

fisherman66 · September 13, 2005, 09:15 PM

You really need a guide or mentor here. You might end up a thorny tree all night otherwise.

It is money well spent. Hogs (not boars) are relatively inexpensive to day hunt around here and some farmers are happy to have them off their land. I don't know about boars, but hogs like sour corn and strangely enough I hear diesel doused feed and creosote soaked wood attratact them.

butch50 · September 13, 2005, 09:51 PM

Please don't go hog hunting without an experienced hunter to show you the ropes. If you go alone you may end up in some serious trouble.

AndrewTB · September 13, 2005, 10:46 PM

2 of the links posted dont work. I don't know anyone here in Florida and really don't care for the overnight hunt thing either. What would be my best way of locating someone? I already know not to go hog hunting alone

. From what ive heard hogs have killed hunters :O.

AndrewTB · September 13, 2005, 11:02 PM

Nevermind links are working now. Appears they dont work with firefox and I used IE. Thanks for the info.

Cowled_Wolfe · September 13, 2005, 11:05 PM

Quote:

What would be my best way of locating someone?

Could always try your local paper...

"SWM seeks exp. hog hunter. Enjoys long walks, fireplace cuddles, quiet time, warm hugs, killing stuff. Call (###) ###-####."

Wolfe.

fisherman66 · September 14, 2005, 12:16 AM

I'm guessing boar and hogs have alot in common and boars could be at least as dangerous. Try the internet to search for a guide.

I didn't mean to give you the impression that I offered you an invitation. Although there are plenty of hotels around TX. Just making a comparision.

Hunting is alot more than chambering a round and squeezing the trigger. You will find lots of use info on the net or in the library. Take some time before jumping in. You have a bee in your bonnet.

AndrewTB · September 14, 2005, 12:19 AM

ROFL @ Wolfe.

Thanks. didnt get the impession of being guided. The guides posted seem hand since they skin and clean the boar for me. Figring how im totally new to hunting I would like to witness it first hand. It seems like fun. Plus id like to taste some food that I hunted myself. Im going to wait a few months before I go hunting though. That way I can be better educated in firearms.

Lawyer Daggit · September 14, 2005, 12:57 AM

Most hunters start of chasing rabbits and fox and graduate to something bigger. With this process one learns to shoot and to handle recoil.

While there is no reason you cannot start of chasing wild pig, you would probably be better off starting off like the rest of us. Chasing bunnies teaches you essential stalking skills, the importance of wind as well as how to shoot.

Don't be put off by the humble bunny. While I enjoy hunting larger game, an afternoon around my favourite warren's gives me as much of a thrill as anchoring a decent wild pig.

AndrewTB · September 14, 2005, 02:04 AM

I can't kill rabbit or squirrels. What other small game animals can be hunted?

whiskey · September 14, 2005, 09:13 PM

Dear God, don't go hunting. Hunting is not about killing pretty animals or ugly animals. If you want to find out if you have what it takes to kill something, get a goldfish. If you look at wild animals as pets then you probably shouldn't hunt.

No animal puts up much of a fight against guns. Hell if you want something to fight back then hunt hogs with a pocket knife. Now that would be a more even fight. Hogs are not easy game on public land. They are often very difficult to hunt as they quickly dissappear in to the palmettos. I have hunted hogs in Florida for a little while and it is not a pleasent venture.

Hunting over a baited station with a guide there to tell you what and when to shoot and then clean and package your kill for you is more like shopping with a rifle. It may be fun if you don't know any better, but it ain't hunting.

I don't want to push anyone away from the sport, but you really need to ask yourself if you want the work involved or are you just curious as to the kill. I don't have moral issues when it comes to animals. Go kill something. Get it out of the way. Then if you still want to "hunt" then find a friend willing to show you around the local WMA's. Check out www.myfwc.com for local WMA's around the Tampa area. Go out there now without a gun and see if you can find game animals. Watch them eat and travel. Learn what it takes to sneak around in the woods in Florida.

Hogs aren't going to kill you. If they do, just call me and I will pay the furneral cost.

If you like walking around the woods and spending time in nature then you can give hunting a try. Remeber to be realistic. Get up 2 hours before sunrise. Pack a lot of stuff in a backpack. Fix a sandwich and get plenty of water and go spend the whole day walking through the swamps and palmetto and pine flats. Enjoy the mosquitos and gnats and biting flies. Enjoy the heat on the mid-day. Stay out until it is dark then walk back to your vehicle in the dark, dead tired and wet up to your waist from taking a wrong step in the swamp. That's the joy of hunting, not killing a ugly hog.

AndrewTB · September 14, 2005, 09:25 PM

If a large boar knocks you on the ground and gets to your face it can kill you. Im not educated in hunting and I know this. Its not about ugly or pretty. I just cant kill stuff I used to have as a pet. It would be like hunting dog.

I do want to learn hunting skills. Its something that would be useful if anything every happend in the world. Id hunt skunk and its still a cute animal

.

fisherman66 · September 14, 2005, 09:32 PM

Perhaps hunting is not for you. No offense, no judgement. It's not for everyone.

If you decide I am wrong. Please get a guide.

impact · September 14, 2005, 10:49 PM

Andrew there is alot more to hunting than just the kill. Killing is the easy part. Like other people have said. You really need to go with someone and learn.

I have done some crazy things while hunting hogs. They can get dangerous. But they are really not all that bad. In most all cases a hog will run from you. I know a guy that was attacked by a hog and knocked on the ground. The hog brused him pretty up good but he was ok. I was attacked one time. The hog could not nock me down so he took off. All I did was kick him in the head and he went the other way.

AndrewTB · September 14, 2005, 11:20 PM

I dont want you guys to think I just want to kill. I know I have to learn many more skills then just pulling the trigger. As I said im totally new to this. I think I may have given the the wrong impression. The guided tours seems a bit boring since they do almost everything for you. Id like to get my hands dirty and learn the real way. The time may one day come where I have to hunt for survival. It would be nice to learn the ropes.

fisherman66 · September 14, 2005, 11:30 PM

They are not guided tours. It will give you a good indication of whether or not you have the stomach to field dress and quarter game. The learning curve is too steep to do all this alone. You will quickly become frustated by the whole experience and give up or worse get yourself in a bind and make a poor decision.

Go check out a book on hunting first. Then hire a guide for your first hunt.

AndrewTB · September 15, 2005, 12:01 AM

I just want to make the right decision when I start. Can any of you reccomend a good book on hunting?

CarbineCaleb · September 15, 2005, 12:04 AM

I don't know what the regulations are on shooting them... but gators are down in your area, not exactly cuddly, and also rank high on butch50's deliciousness scale too. Wonder if there are guides for gator hunts???

Lawyer Daggit · September 15, 2005, 01:02 AM

If you think you may one day have to hunt for survival you need to shed some scruples really fast. As has been said, killing is the easy part and most hunters feel considerable affinity with their prey. Hunting is not about murdering animals, it is about fitting in with nature and taking what you need.

I suggest you see if you can track down a book called 'In defence of hunting' by James A Swan, HarperSanfrancisco, 1995. This book looks challenges a lot of stereotypes of hunters and may help start you on the kind of philosophical path that may help you form a view about whether you want to hunt and what you are prepared to hunt.

Please do not give up yet. Hunting may not indeed be for you, but you owe it to yourself to read as much as you can (providing it is sensibly written and not merely the ramblings of a greenie who ate a fermented carrot) and form a moral view from which to proceed.

September 10, 2005, 09:13 PM	#1
AndrewTB Junior member Join Date: January 11, 2005 Posts: 677	Want to hunt boar. Well im debating hunting. Ive thought about an animal I could hunt without feeling guilty and having something that taste good. Ive narrowed it down to boar just because they can be pretty nasty and im told its more of a challenge. I may be incorrect. Ive never hunted at all. So ive come here to get some insight on how to get started! I wouldnt know where to start. Id also want to figure out how to kill the damned things without having them scream. LOL an odd request but im a noob. I want to start off slowly.

September 10, 2005, 10:08 PM	#2
butch50 Senior Member Join Date: April 15, 2005 Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 1,403	If you have never hunted at all, are you going to be with an experienced hunter? If you are, then go with what he suggests. If you are going hunting solo and have never hunted before - then I would suggest that you start with small game such as rabbits and/or squirrels. They are excellent eating, easily dressed and handled by a novice and provide much enjoyment in hunting. They will provide you with experience and field craft for hunting the larger animals later as you get comfortable with hunting. If you are going on a guided hunt, then do as the guide suggests. Hog hunting with an experienced hunter would be a blast for you - but hog hunting on your own, without previous experience hunting, might become discouraging. __________________ ‘‘Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest.’’ ~ Mahatma Ghandi, "Gandhi, An Autobiography", page 446 ‘‘The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able may have a gun.’’ ~ Patrick Henry

September 11, 2005, 10:06 AM	#5
butch50 Senior Member Join Date: April 15, 2005 Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 1,403	Hogs are about as ugly as they come. I am having difficulty understanding why you want to hunt at all though, if your desire to kill an animal is based on where it falls on the "pretty" scale. That seems odd to me. Ugly animals have as much right to their existence as pretty animals do, and vice versa..... Since you have never hunted you are probably not going to enjoy the part that follows the kill - field dressing it, dragging it out to your car or camp, hanging it up in a tree, skinning it, butchering the meat, wrapping the meat and fitting it all into your freezer, several hours of just plain hard dirty work. And if you don't do that with some skill and knowledge, you aren't going to enjoy eating it later because you will have ruined much of the meat. You should have someone experienced help you with this, if at all possible. You may find that doing all of that in hot weather is especially unpleasant - but in Florida guess you don't have much choice (In large part my suggestion to start with small game is because the "after the kill experience" will be better if you start small, so to speak). I was raised to hunt based upon the "delicious" scale. But I was taught to hunt by an extremely rare individual, a true conservationist of the first magnitude. A man who grew up subsistence hunting for meat, not at all for sport. My family hunted for what tasted best on the table. I will put small game up at the top of that list any day. Times do change though. __________________ ‘‘Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest.’’ ~ Mahatma Ghandi, "Gandhi, An Autobiography", page 446 ‘‘The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able may have a gun.’’ ~ Patrick Henry Last edited by butch50; September 11, 2005 at 08:48 PM.

September 11, 2005, 09:26 PM	#6
Mannlicher Senior Member Join Date: July 8, 2001 Location: North Central Florida & Miami Posts: 3,209	Lots of places to hunt piggies in Fla, here are some links http://www.a-wild-boar-hog-hunting-f...e-service.com/ http://www.huntinginflorida.com/wildhog_hunts.html http://www.ronsguideservice.com/boar.htm Don't worry about your total lack of experience. Any of these outfits will treat you right. __________________ Nemo Me Impune Lacesset "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.".........Ronald Reagan

September 13, 2005, 09:51 PM	#9
butch50 Senior Member Join Date: April 15, 2005 Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 1,403	Please don't go hog hunting without an experienced hunter to show you the ropes. If you go alone you may end up in some serious trouble. __________________ ‘‘Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest.’’ ~ Mahatma Ghandi, "Gandhi, An Autobiography", page 446 ‘‘The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able may have a gun.’’ ~ Patrick Henry

September 10, 2005, 10:38 PM	#3
CobrayCommando Junior member Join Date: November 21, 2004 Posts: 1,631	Ugly things are probably easier to kill, and I have the same question about screaming.

September 10, 2005, 11:03 PM	#4
AndrewTB Junior member Join Date: January 11, 2005 Posts: 677	I wouldnt mind starting with small game but rabbits and squirrels are out of the question. Is there anything thats ugly that wont make me feel as bad? I know it sounds funny but the Rabbits, Deer and Squirrels are my favorite animals.

September 13, 2005, 08:13 PM	#7
AndrewTB Junior member Join Date: January 11, 2005 Posts: 677	LOL its not mainly the prettyness factor but let me break it down. I love rabbits and have had pet rabbits. Its my favorite animal therfore I can't hunt it. Squirrels used to come to me so I would give them bread when I was little. So its a mental thing. AS for deer. I can't kill bamby! LOL Im sorry if I sound like a fruit. I really ain't. I narrowed it down to boar because I heard supposedly they put more of a fight up. I also hear its lots more fun then hunting the other things I mentioned. IM going mainly by hearsay and research on the internet so I may be wrong. I also heard boar is very tasty.

September 13, 2005, 09:15 PM	#8
fisherman66 Senior Member Join Date: August 22, 2005 Location: The Woodlands TX Posts: 4,680	You really need a guide or mentor here. You might end up a thorny tree all night otherwise. It is money well spent. Hogs (not boars) are relatively inexpensive to day hunt around here and some farmers are happy to have them off their land. I don't know about boars, but hogs like sour corn and strangely enough I hear diesel doused feed and creosote soaked wood attratact them.

September 13, 2005, 10:46 PM	#10
AndrewTB Junior member Join Date: January 11, 2005 Posts: 677	2 of the links posted dont work. I don't know anyone here in Florida and really don't care for the overnight hunt thing either. What would be my best way of locating someone? I already know not to go hog hunting alone . From what ive heard hogs have killed hunters :O.

September 13, 2005, 11:02 PM	#11
AndrewTB Junior member Join Date: January 11, 2005 Posts: 677	Nevermind links are working now. Appears they dont work with firefox and I used IE. Thanks for the info.

September 14, 2005, 12:16 AM	#13
fisherman66 Senior Member Join Date: August 22, 2005 Location: The Woodlands TX Posts: 4,680	I'm guessing boar and hogs have alot in common and boars could be at least as dangerous. Try the internet to search for a guide. I didn't mean to give you the impression that I offered you an invitation. Although there are plenty of hotels around TX. Just making a comparision. Hunting is alot more than chambering a round and squeezing the trigger. You will find lots of use info on the net or in the library. Take some time before jumping in. You have a bee in your bonnet.

September 14, 2005, 12:19 AM	#14
AndrewTB Junior member Join Date: January 11, 2005 Posts: 677	ROFL @ Wolfe. Thanks. didnt get the impession of being guided. The guides posted seem hand since they skin and clean the boar for me. Figring how im totally new to hunting I would like to witness it first hand. It seems like fun. Plus id like to taste some food that I hunted myself. Im going to wait a few months before I go hunting though. That way I can be better educated in firearms.

September 14, 2005, 12:57 AM	#15
Lawyer Daggit Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2004 Posts: 1,181	Most hunters start of chasing rabbits and fox and graduate to something bigger. With this process one learns to shoot and to handle recoil. While there is no reason you cannot start of chasing wild pig, you would probably be better off starting off like the rest of us. Chasing bunnies teaches you essential stalking skills, the importance of wind as well as how to shoot. Don't be put off by the humble bunny. While I enjoy hunting larger game, an afternoon around my favourite warren's gives me as much of a thrill as anchoring a decent wild pig.

September 14, 2005, 02:04 AM	#16
AndrewTB Junior member Join Date: January 11, 2005 Posts: 677	I can't kill rabbit or squirrels. What other small game animals can be hunted?

September 14, 2005, 09:13 PM	#17
whiskey Senior Member Join Date: January 19, 2000 Location: Clarksville, TN Posts: 431	Dear God, don't go hunting. Hunting is not about killing pretty animals or ugly animals. If you want to find out if you have what it takes to kill something, get a goldfish. If you look at wild animals as pets then you probably shouldn't hunt. No animal puts up much of a fight against guns. Hell if you want something to fight back then hunt hogs with a pocket knife. Now that would be a more even fight. Hogs are not easy game on public land. They are often very difficult to hunt as they quickly dissappear in to the palmettos. I have hunted hogs in Florida for a little while and it is not a pleasent venture. Hunting over a baited station with a guide there to tell you what and when to shoot and then clean and package your kill for you is more like shopping with a rifle. It may be fun if you don't know any better, but it ain't hunting. I don't want to push anyone away from the sport, but you really need to ask yourself if you want the work involved or are you just curious as to the kill. I don't have moral issues when it comes to animals. Go kill something. Get it out of the way. Then if you still want to "hunt" then find a friend willing to show you around the local WMA's. Check out www.myfwc.com for local WMA's around the Tampa area. Go out there now without a gun and see if you can find game animals. Watch them eat and travel. Learn what it takes to sneak around in the woods in Florida. Hogs aren't going to kill you. If they do, just call me and I will pay the furneral cost. If you like walking around the woods and spending time in nature then you can give hunting a try. Remeber to be realistic. Get up 2 hours before sunrise. Pack a lot of stuff in a backpack. Fix a sandwich and get plenty of water and go spend the whole day walking through the swamps and palmetto and pine flats. Enjoy the mosquitos and gnats and biting flies. Enjoy the heat on the mid-day. Stay out until it is dark then walk back to your vehicle in the dark, dead tired and wet up to your waist from taking a wrong step in the swamp. That's the joy of hunting, not killing a ugly hog. __________________ "So he cocked both his pistols, spit in the dirt and walked out in to the street."

September 14, 2005, 09:25 PM	#18
AndrewTB Junior member Join Date: January 11, 2005 Posts: 677	If a large boar knocks you on the ground and gets to your face it can kill you. Im not educated in hunting and I know this. Its not about ugly or pretty. I just cant kill stuff I used to have as a pet. It would be like hunting dog. I do want to learn hunting skills. Its something that would be useful if anything every happend in the world. Id hunt skunk and its still a cute animal .

September 14, 2005, 09:32 PM	#19
fisherman66 Senior Member Join Date: August 22, 2005 Location: The Woodlands TX Posts: 4,680	Perhaps hunting is not for you. No offense, no judgement. It's not for everyone. If you decide I am wrong. Please get a guide.

September 14, 2005, 10:49 PM	#20
impact Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2005 Location: the great state of Texas Posts: 854	Andrew there is alot more to hunting than just the kill. Killing is the easy part. Like other people have said. You really need to go with someone and learn. I have done some crazy things while hunting hogs. They can get dangerous. But they are really not all that bad. In most all cases a hog will run from you. I know a guy that was attacked by a hog and knocked on the ground. The hog brused him pretty up good but he was ok. I was attacked one time. The hog could not nock me down so he took off. All I did was kick him in the head and he went the other way.

September 14, 2005, 11:20 PM	#21
AndrewTB Junior member Join Date: January 11, 2005 Posts: 677	I dont want you guys to think I just want to kill. I know I have to learn many more skills then just pulling the trigger. As I said im totally new to this. I think I may have given the the wrong impression. The guided tours seems a bit boring since they do almost everything for you. Id like to get my hands dirty and learn the real way. The time may one day come where I have to hunt for survival. It would be nice to learn the ropes.

September 14, 2005, 11:30 PM	#22
fisherman66 Senior Member Join Date: August 22, 2005 Location: The Woodlands TX Posts: 4,680	They are not guided tours. It will give you a good indication of whether or not you have the stomach to field dress and quarter game. The learning curve is too steep to do all this alone. You will quickly become frustated by the whole experience and give up or worse get yourself in a bind and make a poor decision. Go check out a book on hunting first. Then hire a guide for your first hunt.

September 15, 2005, 12:01 AM	#23
AndrewTB Junior member Join Date: January 11, 2005 Posts: 677	I just want to make the right decision when I start. Can any of you reccomend a good book on hunting?

September 15, 2005, 12:04 AM	#24
CarbineCaleb Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2004 Posts: 2,745	I don't know what the regulations are on shooting them... but gators are down in your area, not exactly cuddly, and also rank high on butch50's deliciousness scale too. Wonder if there are guides for gator hunts??? __________________ “Never express yourself more clearly than you are able to think.” Niels Bohr

September 15, 2005, 01:02 AM	#25
Lawyer Daggit Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2004 Posts: 1,181	If you think you may one day have to hunt for survival you need to shed some scruples really fast. As has been said, killing is the easy part and most hunters feel considerable affinity with their prey. Hunting is not about murdering animals, it is about fitting in with nature and taking what you need. I suggest you see if you can track down a book called 'In defence of hunting' by James A Swan, HarperSanfrancisco, 1995. This book looks challenges a lot of stereotypes of hunters and may help start you on the kind of philosophical path that may help you form a view about whether you want to hunt and what you are prepared to hunt. Please do not give up yet. Hunting may not indeed be for you, but you owe it to yourself to read as much as you can (providing it is sensibly written and not merely the ramblings of a greenie who ate a fermented carrot) and form a moral view from which to proceed.