at the range, group testing TG vs. HP38

skizzums · August 11, 2013, 06:29 PM

okay here it is, for some reason i cannot edit the pics sent from my phone, the are subsequently upside down. these are 9mm btw.

my clear winner is hp38, i can't tell a difference between the primers.

1st pic is the factory fed champ and the lyman #8 alloy .355 bullets i was using with TG

2nd pic is TG/3.9gr using diff primers and penn bullets

3rd pic is HP38/4.2gr using diff primers and penn bullets

i wish i had some of the lyman #8 bullets left for comparison on the hp38 but i dont have any left.

these were taken at 25 yards using a carbine to eliminate user error best i could. please note that i shot several hundred rounds today with the different loads without any hiccups or misfires.

m&p45acp10+1 · August 11, 2013, 06:34 PM

I like TiteGroup for plated, and jacketed 9mm Luger. For everything else it is either Bull's Eye or HP38/Win 231. I have not had good results using TiteGroup with lead at all.

skizzums · August 11, 2013, 06:40 PM

i have never usued anything but titegroup and i only throw lead. i really enjoyed the hp38 today, it ran cleaner, more accurate, maybe slightly more kick, but overall it's my new preference for lead. i have yet to come acroos any unique, but i would like to give it atry also since evryone raves about it.

Forrest68 · August 11, 2013, 07:17 PM

I lucked into HP38 as my first powder , and have liked it ever since. HS6 is good too, didnt really have success with titegroup myself. Every chance I get to but up some HP38 I grab it. Has doen well with 115gr plated,124gr plated and 147gr lead also 180gr plated in my 40 S&W .

noylj · August 11, 2013, 08:38 PM

9x19?
I prefer 231/HP38 over TiteGroup for anything. TG is HOT and can be spiky in terms of pressure.
If you could find them, I prefer AA2 for a fast powder in 9x19 (light loads) and Power Pistol or Silhouette for mid-range to max loads.
Almost all I shoot are 115 and 124gn L-SWCs. If you ever load SWCs, try to get the shoulder to just kiss the rifling/lede.

August 11, 2013, 06:34 PM	#2
m&p45acp10+1 Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2009 Location: Central Texas Posts: 3,930	I like TiteGroup for plated, and jacketed 9mm Luger. For everything else it is either Bull's Eye or HP38/Win 231. I have not had good results using TiteGroup with lead at all. __________________ No matter how many times you do it and nothing happens it only takes something going wrong one time to kill you.

August 11, 2013, 06:40 PM	#3
skizzums Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2013 Location: Douglasville, Ga Posts: 4,615	i have never usued anything but titegroup and i only throw lead. i really enjoyed the hp38 today, it ran cleaner, more accurate, maybe slightly more kick, but overall it's my new preference for lead. i have yet to come acroos any unique, but i would like to give it atry also since evryone raves about it.

August 11, 2013, 07:17 PM	#4
Forrest68 Senior Member Join Date: June 19, 2013 Posts: 135	I lucked into HP38 as my first powder , and have liked it ever since. HS6 is good too, didnt really have success with titegroup myself. Every chance I get to but up some HP38 I grab it. Has doen well with 115gr plated,124gr plated and 147gr lead also 180gr plated in my 40 S&W .

August 11, 2013, 08:38 PM	#5
noylj Senior Member Join Date: October 21, 2007 Location: Between CA and NM Posts: 858	9x19? I prefer 231/HP38 over TiteGroup for anything. TG is HOT and can be spiky in terms of pressure. If you could find them, I prefer AA2 for a fast powder in 9x19 (light loads) and Power Pistol or Silhouette for mid-range to max loads. Almost all I shoot are 115 and 124gn L-SWCs. If you ever load SWCs, try to get the shoulder to just kiss the rifling/lede.