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June 25, 2013, 08:58 AM | #1 |
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MAIG -- Using NYC's money and servers?
Here's an interesting article that I found: http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/06/ma...-illegal-guns/
There are similar articles here: http://johnrlott.blogspot.com/2013/0...sing-city.html and here: http://ace.mu.nu/archives/341105.php If the articles are accurate, NYC actually footed the bill for registering the domain for Mayors Against Illegal Guns. What's more, (& again, if the articles are accurate), the site is actually hosted on NYC's servers. ETA: If the articles are accurate, I wonder just how much information and documents I could get under NY's FOI/open records laws, if they're spending public money and using gov't servers to host?
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June 25, 2013, 09:34 AM | #2 |
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Same way I fought the "Commie Mommies" on exactly the same issue:
http://www.ninehundred.net/~equalccw/commiemommies.html File an FOIA (actually, an equivalent request under state law) against the city or state IT department on how much they've spent for those sites.
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This link is from CBS (sorry, but slightly more reputable than an clearly partisan blog (whether I agree with it or not), and includes comments from Bloomberg staffers. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-...nment-servers/
ETA: my favorite quote: Quote:
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June 26, 2013, 09:01 PM | #4 |
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Early this morning, I had posted, over at the NY Firearms site, that someone needs to look into charges of misappropriation of public funds. This afternoon, I was over at MDShooters when I noticed YATOB (Yet Another Thread On Bloomberg). The SAF is thinking along the same lines I thought of this morning.
SAF Press Release :: SAF ASKS FOR ALL BLOOMBERG-MAIG RECORDS FROM NYC AFTER REVELATIONS This ought to be interesting! |
June 27, 2013, 09:19 PM | #5 |
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Bloomie is a sad individual, and has no issues with rank hypocrisy.
If he has some ethics, he has reimbursed the city. The silence from MAIG and Bloomberg indicates something may be amiss. The Little Big Man may have let his ego run away with him. Like doing touch and goes at a helipad on a weekend, from which all other traffic is banned at the same time to leave the nearby residents in quiet. He flew multiple approaches and takeoffs, was caught on camera. Poor little man, had to apologize and promise to observe the laws of the city.
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June 27, 2013, 11:26 PM | #6 |
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Reimbursal is the first thing that should happen. Second is reprimands and discipline for any public employees who allowed, sanctioned, or tacitly approved misappropriation of public funds and property, and thirdly, punitive fines and sanctions against MAIG and the Mayor.
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June 28, 2013, 08:12 AM | #7 |
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How about multiple felony charges for misappropriation of public funds?
Whether or not Bloomberg pays back the monies is irrelevant. |
June 28, 2013, 09:46 AM | #8 |
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The fun part (for me) is that the use of public monies and systems might open MAIG up to FOI requests.
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June 28, 2013, 10:21 AM | #9 |
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Seems to me the whole thing could be considered "fun".
We have Billionaire Mayor Bloomberg apparently using public resources for personal means. The potential of criminal and civil prosecution against said mayor. Possible FOI requests into his MAIG business. I'd call this a "hot time on a Saturday night" darn near.
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June 28, 2013, 12:20 PM | #10 |
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The thing I always wondered about was if there is any family connection between NYC's Commissioner for the Department of Consumer Affairs...Jonathan Mintz and the James B Mintz Group, the firm used by Bloomberg in its sting of southern gun dealers. Jonathan Mintz is the husband of John Feinblatt, Bloomberg's anti 2nd amendment advisor.
If there was some family connection, using NYC funds to pay a family members business for Bloomberg's pet project would seem like a conflict of interest to me. I'm not saying this is the case. In all likelihood, its just a coincidence in names but it was something I always wondered about. |
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Already a done deal, Spats! From the press release I referenced above:
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June 28, 2013, 01:56 PM | #12 |
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Yeah, I saw the SAF announcement that you put up. I'll bet that's gonna be some interesting reading!
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June 28, 2013, 03:11 PM | #13 |
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As much as I love the idea of this FOIA, it will go nowhere. The city will deny the request claiming some law enforcement exemption BS, it will go to court and a sympathetic NYC judge will uphold the denial of the info.
Kinda like the judge that let Bloomberg off the hook for his sting operation because no firearms were actually transferred...even though lying on Form 4473 is a crime regardless if the firearm is transferred or not. |
June 28, 2013, 04:31 PM | #14 |
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I'm not so sure about a "law enforcement exemption" since MAIG is (as far as I know) not a law-enforcement agency.
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