loading 357 maximum/supermag with extruded stick powders

Visaman · August 31, 2009, 05:58 AM

I have read that extruded stick powders does not cause top-strap cutting and forcing cone erosion like ball powders do(especially W296/H110).

Does anyone have any good loads that are precise out to 200 yards form a Dan Wesson mod 40 Supermag with a 8" barrel ?

I am thinking of using these bullets:
http://www.intlmidway.com/intl/eprod...eItemID=364219

Sport45 · August 31, 2009, 07:46 AM

I wish I could help, but this is the first time I've ever used the words "precise", "200 yards", and "revolver" all in the same sentence.

Thanks for the opportunity!

Magnum Wheel Man · August 31, 2009, 07:54 AM

I think I have some loads using 3031... but it's been a while since I loaded those, & I've not updated my computer based load manual for that cartridge yet ( & I'm at work right now )...

BTW... I have some cartridges loaded with bullets that look just like that ( copper plated 200 grain ) I wouldn't use them for hunting... if I remember correctly they are brittle... work fine for paper punching though...

Visaman · August 31, 2009, 11:55 AM

it is not legal to hunt with handguns in norway, the loads will be used for long range target shooting.

180gr Silhouette 17.0 gr of VV N110 1,672 fps 1.894" Vihtavuori powder

180gr Silhouette 22.1 gr of VV N120 1,727 fps 1.894" Vihtavuori powder

180gr FMJ 19.0 gr of Win 296 1,670 fps Winchester powder
Suggested starting load: 17.1 gr

Pressure: 46,900 CUP

source: http://www.handloads.org/

any comments on these ?

**Bud Helms** · August 31, 2009, 01:44 PM

Quote:

I wish I could help, but this is the first time I've ever used the words "precise", "200 yards", and "revolver" all in the same sentence.

LMAO @ Sport45!

I've seen some IHMSA revolver shooters shoot out to 200, but "precise" ... I dunno! *chuckle*

EDIT: On the other hand, IHMSA shooters David Bradshaw and Lon Pennington both recorded 5 shot groups of 3 inches at 200 meters with the .357 Maximum, and ... if I'm not mistaken with this same model of revolver.

BTW, Visaman, an old Nosler book shows some 4227 loads for the Nosler 180 gr .357 silhouette bullet, but they are from an H&S Precision test barrel, if you are interested.

IllinoisCoyoteHunter · August 31, 2009, 01:56 PM

460 sw mag....200 yards....piece of cake!

Visaman · September 1, 2009, 05:28 AM

this is from Vihtavuori's manuals

K.W. · September 3, 2009, 04:04 PM

I have also Dan Wesson .40 V8S and T/C Contender 14" Bullbarrel .357 Supermag /Remington Maximum.
Pistolhunting is illegal also in my countru. There is Redfield Five Golden Star 4x pistoscope on my T/C. I keep shooting with it some times at 300m / over 300yards.
My powder is VihtaVuori N-110. I use Hornady HP XTP 158- and 180gr bullets and also Archipelago resitzed copperpladet castbullets. N-110 is clean- and not so hot burnin powder.
The strap cutting is stronger, if you use 125gr bullet like high speed with you revolver. With T/C it is ok.
My target load for T/C Hornady HP XTP 158gr VihtaVuori N-110 21gr 2145 fps.

August 31, 2009, 05:58 AM	#1
Visaman Senior Member Join Date: November 10, 2008 Location: Norway Posts: 302	loading 357 maximum/supermag with extruded stick powders I have read that extruded stick powders does not cause top-strap cutting and forcing cone erosion like ball powders do(especially W296/H110). Does anyone have any good loads that are precise out to 200 yards form a Dan Wesson mod 40 Supermag with a 8" barrel ? I am thinking of using these bullets: http://www.intlmidway.com/intl/eprod...eItemID=364219 __________________ Summa pia gratia nostra conservando corpora et cutodita, de gente fera Normannica nos libera, quae nostra vastat, Deus, regna.

August 31, 2009, 07:46 AM	#2
Sport45 Senior Member Join Date: May 25, 1999 Location: Too close to Houston Posts: 4,196	I wish I could help, but this is the first time I've ever used the words "precise", "200 yards", and "revolver" all in the same sentence. Thanks for the opportunity! __________________ Proud member of the NRA and Texas State Rifle Association. Registered and active voter.

August 31, 2009, 07:54 AM	#3
Magnum Wheel Man Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2006 Location: Southern Minnesota Posts: 9,333	I think I have some loads using 3031... but it's been a while since I loaded those, & I've not updated my computer based load manual for that cartridge yet ( & I'm at work right now )... BTW... I have some cartridges loaded with bullets that look just like that ( copper plated 200 grain ) I wouldn't use them for hunting... if I remember correctly they are brittle... work fine for paper punching though... __________________ In life you either make dust or eat dust...

August 31, 2009, 11:55 AM	#4
Visaman Senior Member Join Date: November 10, 2008 Location: Norway Posts: 302	it is not legal to hunt with handguns in norway, the loads will be used for long range target shooting. 180gr Silhouette 17.0 gr of VV N110 1,672 fps 1.894" Vihtavuori powder 180gr Silhouette 22.1 gr of VV N120 1,727 fps 1.894" Vihtavuori powder 180gr FMJ 19.0 gr of Win 296 1,670 fps Winchester powder Suggested starting load: 17.1 gr Pressure: 46,900 CUP source: http://www.handloads.org/ any comments on these ? __________________ Summa pia gratia nostra conservando corpora et cutodita, de gente fera Normannica nos libera, quae nostra vastat, Deus, regna. Last edited by Visaman; August 31, 2009 at 12:03 PM.

August 31, 2009, 01:56 PM	#6
IllinoisCoyoteHunter Senior Member Join Date: December 23, 2008 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 1,527	460 sw mag....200 yards....piece of cake! __________________ ~~IllinoisCoyoteHunter~~ ~NRA LIFE MEMBER~ ~NRA CERTIFIED INSTRUCTOR~

September 3, 2009, 04:04 PM	#8
K.W. Member Join Date: April 16, 2008 Location: Finland Posts: 87	I have also Dan Wesson .40 V8S and T/C Contender 14" Bullbarrel .357 Supermag /Remington Maximum. Pistolhunting is illegal also in my countru. There is Redfield Five Golden Star 4x pistoscope on my T/C. I keep shooting with it some times at 300m / over 300yards. My powder is VihtaVuori N-110. I use Hornady HP XTP 158- and 180gr bullets and also Archipelago resitzed copperpladet castbullets. N-110 is clean- and not so hot burnin powder. The strap cutting is stronger, if you use 125gr bullet like high speed with you revolver. With T/C it is ok. My target load for T/C Hornady HP XTP 158gr VihtaVuori N-110 21gr 2145 fps. Last edited by K.W.; September 3, 2009 at 04:14 PM.