I found 'em....What are they?

Rottweiler · November 24, 2001, 12:21 PM

During my latest brass scrounging adventure at the local range I found these 4 cases. They have a .50 AE headstamp and are necked down to the same size as a .44 mag. Anybody know what they are called?

Maybe somebody's latest wildcat? They are flanked by a .44 mag and a .45 ACP for scale. Now that I have'em I'm gonna have to go buy dies,bullets and a gun to use 'em in, SIGH

Phil in Seattle · November 24, 2001, 01:04 PM

440 Corbon. A 240gr JHP at 1800fps

From Corbons Website:

"The 440 CorBon Magnum combines the excellent ballistic coefficient of the 44 caliber bullets with the case capacity of the 50AE. This marriage produces a hyper-velocity cartridge with advantages of both parents. The bottleneck design is a super idea that produces a hunting round capable of very flat trajectory and amazing down range power. This concept works well in single shot pistols or the hefty autopistols.

Imagine if you will a semi-automatic handgun with an eight round magazine and the power of over 1700 ft/lbs of energy. This is serious firepower in any situation! The combination of gun weight and higher velocity tames the expected recoil admirably. It's much more pleasant to shoot that you would think"

Watchman · November 24, 2001, 07:55 PM

That .440 Corbon looks like it would be a better hunting rig than a defensive pistol. Looks like there could be a problem of over penetration if the bullet was quickly introduced to a scumball. In the case of hunting, it looks like it'd be a killer deer round.

Rottweiler · November 25, 2001, 07:51 AM

O.K. now that I know what it is, I'm thinkin like Watchman.Killer deer round in a contender. I'll be contacting SSK Industries shortly

blades67 · November 26, 2001, 03:15 AM

What are the Killer Deer in your neighborhood carrying now?

Rottweiler · November 26, 2001, 07:25 PM

It's not what they're carrying that concerns me, it's those camo'd kevlar vests that they're wearing.

gyp_c2 · November 27, 2001, 11:43 AM

...None of that bothers me....Here in Colorado, they all learned to read a while back...I know that because the DOW told me they keep getting requests for the little season schedules from strange addresses and I never see any deer or elk during hunting season...OR...they stand right behind the sign that says "Warning" Trespassers and Hunters will be Eaten....

dpezet · February 16, 2002, 10:04 AM

Hey guys,

I have a Desert Eagle with a 440 Cor-bon barrel (in addition to 50AE). Over-penetration is definitely a concern with the 440C as it is a "hot" load and has the fastest muzzle velocity of any round I have seen. We took a few bowling pins to the range one weekend and it was obvious. Most rounds (9mm, 40S&W) would only nick or scratch the pins, the 50AE would penetrate but not punch through, and the 440C would split the pins into peices.

I use the 440C at the range because it has more accuracy than the 50AE, and would definitely use it as a hunting round. There is a great comparison between the two rounds here: http://zvis.com/dep/aevscorb.shtml

Don Pezet
[email protected]

Ben Shepherd · February 16, 2002, 12:26 PM

Good thing us revolver guys still have stuff chambered in 45-70, and guys like Limbaugh around.

Otherwise you auto guys would start out-muscling us.

Navy joe · February 16, 2002, 02:49 PM

The Limbaugh round? What is that the one you eventually can't even hear?

C.R.Sam · February 16, 2002, 03:21 PM

440 Cor-Bon would be nice in a 5 shot snubby.....preferably in Scandium

Good for us deaf folk, recoil would tell us it went off.

Sam

Ben Shepherd · February 16, 2002, 04:04 PM

C.R.Sam, that mean you don't have to wear muffs at the range anymore???

Watchman · February 17, 2002, 11:26 AM

"Good for us deaf folk, recoil would tell us it went off. "

Ethier the recoil or the front sight bouncing off of your forehead would tell you when it went off !

The flash burns that you got from a two inch barrell might also be a good indicator...

.50FAN · September 13, 2008, 08:21 PM

Is a magazine or bolt exchange required to swap between these two rounds?

Sport45 · September 15, 2008, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by .50Fan

Is a magazine or bolt exchange required to swap between these two rounds?

Welcome to The Firing Line!

I wouldn't expect anything would have to be changed but the barrel and recoil spring(s). It should be similar to a .400c-b conversion on a .45acp or a .357sig conversion on a .40s&w.

sc928porsche · September 17, 2008, 12:40 AM

Although I dont have a 440c. I do have a Bain&Davis that I really enjoy. It penetrates well and shoots quite a bit flatter than the 357. Bain&Davis is a 44mag case necked down to 357.

November 25, 2001, 07:51 AM	#4
Rottweiler Senior Member Join Date: January 30, 2001 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 391	O.K. now that I know what it is, I'm thinkin like Watchman.Killer deer round in a contender. I'll be contacting SSK Industries shortly __________________ Texas - envied by lesser states since 1845

November 26, 2001, 03:15 AM	#5
blades67 Senior Member Join Date: April 22, 1999 Location: Chandler, Arizona, USA Posts: 6,014	What are the Killer Deer in your neighborhood carrying now? __________________ Guns cause crime like spoons cause Rosie O'Donnell to be fat! I hunt, therefore I am.

November 26, 2001, 07:25 PM	#6
Rottweiler Senior Member Join Date: January 30, 2001 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 391	It's not what they're carrying that concerns me, it's those camo'd kevlar vests that they're wearing. __________________ Texas - envied by lesser states since 1845

November 27, 2001, 11:43 AM	#7
gyp_c2 Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2000 Location: Colorado...Louisiana Posts: 387	...None of that bothers me....Here in Colorado, they all learned to read a while back...I know that because the DOW told me they keep getting requests for the little season schedules from strange addresses and I never see any deer or elk during hunting season...OR...they stand right behind the sign that says "Warning" Trespassers and Hunters will be Eaten.... __________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>g2<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< AVERT

February 16, 2002, 10:04 AM	#8
dpezet Junior Member Join Date: February 16, 2002 Location: Gainesville, FL Posts: 2	440 Corbon performance Hey guys, I have a Desert Eagle with a 440 Cor-bon barrel (in addition to 50AE). Over-penetration is definitely a concern with the 440C as it is a "hot" load and has the fastest muzzle velocity of any round I have seen. We took a few bowling pins to the range one weekend and it was obvious. Most rounds (9mm, 40S&W) would only nick or scratch the pins, the 50AE would penetrate but not punch through, and the 440C would split the pins into peices. I use the 440C at the range because it has more accuracy than the 50AE, and would definitely use it as a hunting round. There is a great comparison between the two rounds here: http://zvis.com/dep/aevscorb.shtml Don Pezet [email protected]

November 24, 2001, 01:04 PM	#2
Phil in Seattle Member Join Date: January 29, 2000 Posts: 97	440 Corbon. A 240gr JHP at 1800fps From Corbons Website: "The 440 CorBon Magnum combines the excellent ballistic coefficient of the 44 caliber bullets with the case capacity of the 50AE. This marriage produces a hyper-velocity cartridge with advantages of both parents. The bottleneck design is a super idea that produces a hunting round capable of very flat trajectory and amazing down range power. This concept works well in single shot pistols or the hefty autopistols. Imagine if you will a semi-automatic handgun with an eight round magazine and the power of over 1700 ft/lbs of energy. This is serious firepower in any situation! The combination of gun weight and higher velocity tames the expected recoil admirably. It's much more pleasant to shoot that you would think"

November 24, 2001, 07:55 PM	#3
Watchman Junior member Join Date: August 8, 2000 Location: ARKANSAS Posts: 484	That .440 Corbon looks like it would be a better hunting rig than a defensive pistol. Looks like there could be a problem of over penetration if the bullet was quickly introduced to a scumball. In the case of hunting, it looks like it'd be a killer deer round.

February 16, 2002, 12:26 PM	#9
Ben Shepherd Senior Member Join Date: August 11, 2001 Location: Utah Posts: 1,462	Good thing us revolver guys still have stuff chambered in 45-70, and guys like Limbaugh around. Otherwise you auto guys would start out-muscling us. __________________ From my cold dead hands......... NRA certified rifle, pistol and shotgun instructor. Hunter education instructor

February 16, 2002, 02:49 PM	#10
Navy joe Senior Member Join Date: January 28, 2001 Location: VA, USA Posts: 1,804	The Limbaugh round? What is that the one you eventually can't even hear? __________________ FY47012

February 16, 2002, 03:21 PM	#11
C.R.Sam Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 1999 Location: Dewey, AZ Posts: 12,858	440 Cor-Bon would be nice in a 5 shot snubby.....preferably in Scandium Good for us deaf folk, recoil would tell us it went off. Sam

February 16, 2002, 04:04 PM	#12
Ben Shepherd Senior Member Join Date: August 11, 2001 Location: Utah Posts: 1,462	C.R.Sam, that mean you don't have to wear muffs at the range anymore??? __________________ From my cold dead hands......... NRA certified rifle, pistol and shotgun instructor. Hunter education instructor

February 17, 2002, 11:26 AM	#13
Watchman Junior member Join Date: August 8, 2000 Location: ARKANSAS Posts: 484	"Good for us deaf folk, recoil would tell us it went off. " Ethier the recoil or the front sight bouncing off of your forehead would tell you when it went off ! The flash burns that you got from a two inch barrell might also be a good indicator...

September 13, 2008, 08:21 PM	#14
.50FAN Junior member Join Date: September 13, 2008 Posts: 20	.440 CORBON vs .50AE Is a magazine or bolt exchange required to swap between these two rounds?

September 17, 2008, 12:40 AM	#16
sc928porsche Senior Member Join Date: May 29, 2008 Location: now living in alabama Posts: 2,433	Although I dont have a 440c. I do have a Bain&Davis that I really enjoy. It penetrates well and shoots quite a bit flatter than the 357. Bain&Davis is a 44mag case necked down to 357.