1869 50/70 springfield HELP!!!!!!!!!!!

joenapa · March 15, 2012, 05:21 PM

I ordered 50/70 bullets from Old West Scroungers. They say smokeless. The company( OWS) says that the rounds are LESS pressure then Blackpowder???? Another company I contacted claims Blackpowder is Less pressure????????? The gun looks very good. But I dont want to shoot the wrong bullets in it and damage it. What do you guys and gals shoot out of your springfield 50/70 trapdoors? And what company do you get ammo from.The ones I have say 50/70 goverment 450 grain lead bullet j and j products xl-20b starline brass

mikthestick · March 23, 2012, 02:42 PM

CoW gives the 50-70 1113ft/sec with a 450gr bullet. If in doubt load 50gr of BP(carbine load) and see how it shoots.

radom · March 24, 2012, 04:22 AM

In general most smokless loads at 50-70 speed are less pressure but I am not a 50-70 trap expert as all the ones I have had where rolling blocks. I had a lot of old made in the 20s used brass and every one loaded with BP popped the head of but would take 46 grains of 3031 till you jammed 65 grains of FF in them then instant head seperation. Kind of amazing what rock blasting powder AKA FF black can do.

**4V50 Gary** · March 24, 2012, 06:13 AM

Who makes the bullets? Ask them.

pohill · March 24, 2012, 07:21 AM

I bought the brass, dies, press, etc. to load my own so I know exactly what's going into the rifle. It's costly at first ( the brass and the dies are pricey). I cast my own bullets. Track of the Wolf is a good place to buy.
Also, there's a poster on several sites named Strawhat, who is, as far as I''m concerned, one of the most knowledgeable and helpful 50-70 shooters around.
Check out this thread:
http://blackpowdersmoke.com/oldcoots...hp?topic=175.0

March 15, 2012, 05:21 PM	#1
joenapa Junior Member Join Date: March 15, 2012 Posts: 1	1869 50/70 springfield HELP!!!!!!!!!!! I ordered 50/70 bullets from Old West Scroungers. They say smokeless. The company( OWS) says that the rounds are LESS pressure then Blackpowder???? Another company I contacted claims Blackpowder is Less pressure????????? The gun looks very good. But I dont want to shoot the wrong bullets in it and damage it. What do you guys and gals shoot out of your springfield 50/70 trapdoors? And what company do you get ammo from.The ones I have say 50/70 goverment 450 grain lead bullet j and j products xl-20b starline brass

March 23, 2012, 02:42 PM	#2
mikthestick Senior Member Join Date: January 29, 2012 Location: Devon England Posts: 177	Cartridges of the World CoW gives the 50-70 1113ft/sec with a 450gr bullet. If in doubt load 50gr of BP(carbine load) and see how it shoots.

March 24, 2012, 06:13 AM	#4
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,840	Who makes the bullets? Ask them. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

March 24, 2012, 04:22 AM	#3
radom Senior Member Join Date: January 21, 2000 Posts: 1,357	In general most smokless loads at 50-70 speed are less pressure but I am not a 50-70 trap expert as all the ones I have had where rolling blocks. I had a lot of old made in the 20s used brass and every one loaded with BP popped the head of but would take 46 grains of 3031 till you jammed 65 grains of FF in them then instant head seperation. Kind of amazing what rock blasting powder AKA FF black can do.

March 24, 2012, 07:21 AM	#5
pohill Senior Member Join Date: December 27, 2005 Location: northeast Posts: 521	I bought the brass, dies, press, etc. to load my own so I know exactly what's going into the rifle. It's costly at first ( the brass and the dies are pricey). I cast my own bullets. Track of the Wolf is a good place to buy. Also, there's a poster on several sites named Strawhat, who is, as far as I''m concerned, one of the most knowledgeable and helpful 50-70 shooters around. Check out this thread: http://blackpowdersmoke.com/oldcoots...hp?topic=175.0