Don't use a car door for cover - Page 2

output · June 16, 2011, 06:15 AM

I agree that a car door should not be used as cover. There are only two areas of a car that I would want to be behind if rounds were being sailed my way, and they have already been mentioned. With that said…if the only thing standing between me and live rounds were a car door, then you can bet I’d be behind that car door until I could respond appropriately, flee, run, or find better cover.

ZCORR Jay · June 16, 2011, 07:12 AM

Certainly was interesting to watch the car door get shot up. I think the point of the video was to basically say car doors aren't bullet proof so don't treat them as a life saving device.

Sleuth · June 16, 2011, 12:31 PM

There is a psychological part to this as well - many people (including LEO's) will not shoot at someone they cannot see. Many years ago an LEO in California took cover behind and empty cardboard refrigerator box, with the open side facing the outlaw! The bad guy shot at the officer when he looked around the sides, but never tried to shoot him through the box!

It may only be concealment, but if it works, who cares?

8shot357, I don't understand your post at all. Gander Mountain? A couch? What are you trying to say??

8shot357 · June 16, 2011, 05:20 PM

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8shot357, I don't understand your post at all. Gander Mountain? A couch? What are you trying to say??

Never mind, I was tired had a few drinks, and trying to be funny. I meant any mountain and Gander came to mind. Getting behind anything other than nothing is better than just staying out in the open. Even a cardboard box I guess. Sorry for sounding dumb.

moose_nukelz · June 17, 2011, 06:57 AM

Cover = used to stop bullets from hitting you
Concealment = used to stop bad guys from seeing you

Big difference

booker_t · June 20, 2011, 09:09 AM

Seems this topic comes up from time to time.

DEA did an informal study on service calibers and common street calibers vs. vehicles.

http://www.anret.org/Downloads/ballistics.pdf

Bottom line, vehicles don't provide much protection, if any.

June 16, 2011, 06:15 AM	#26
output Senior Member Join Date: December 15, 2008 Posts: 294	I agree that a car door should not be used as cover. There are only two areas of a car that I would want to be behind if rounds were being sailed my way, and they have already been mentioned. With that said…if the only thing standing between me and live rounds were a car door, then you can bet I’d be behind that car door until I could respond appropriately, flee, run, or find better cover. __________________ "All the great things are simple, and many can be expressed in a single word: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope." -Winston Churchill

June 16, 2011, 07:12 AM	#27
ZCORR Jay Member Join Date: July 23, 2010 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 99	Certainly was interesting to watch the car door get shot up. I think the point of the video was to basically say car doors aren't bullet proof so don't treat them as a life saving device. __________________ ZCORR Products 10% Forum Member Discount Code ZCORR-FORUM2013 Free shipping on all domestic & APO/AFO orders over $75

June 16, 2011, 12:31 PM	#28
Sleuth Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2002 Location: Arizona Posts: 445	There is a psychological part to this as well - many people (including LEO's) will not shoot at someone they cannot see. Many years ago an LEO in California took cover behind and empty cardboard refrigerator box, with the open side facing the outlaw! The bad guy shot at the officer when he looked around the sides, but never tried to shoot him through the box! It may only be concealment, but if it works, who cares? 8shot357, I don't understand your post at all. Gander Mountain? A couch? What are you trying to say?? __________________ Sleuth Last edited by Sleuth; June 16, 2011 at 12:38 PM.

June 17, 2011, 06:57 AM	#30
moose_nukelz Senior Member Join Date: April 13, 2011 Posts: 125	Cover = used to stop bullets from hitting you Concealment = used to stop bad guys from seeing you Big difference __________________ Bust em

June 20, 2011, 09:09 AM	#31
booker_t Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 2009 Posts: 797	Seems this topic comes up from time to time. DEA did an informal study on service calibers and common street calibers vs. vehicles. http://www.anret.org/Downloads/ballistics.pdf Bottom line, vehicles don't provide much protection, if any.