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March 26, 2013, 11:34 PM | #26 |
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I have yet to see confirmed, fact or otherwise a scientific law which would attest that any gun laws )in this case we are discussing gun restriction laws and not laws which protect freedoms ) have ever prevented crime.
This does not include various peer reviewed articles supporting various hypothesis on the correlation of gun laws and lessoned crime. Right now we see adults between 18 and 21 denied a right to protect themselves by claiming they have no right to own a handgun at that age. So basically a young lady by herself out in public can easily be checked off by a predator as being someone that at best is armed by pepper spray or a stun gun. That is sad really. Growing up in the 80s I had in my possession a marlin model 60, a 20 gauge shotgun and a marlin 22 magnum bolt action all at the tender age of 16. At 15 I owned my first gun, a springfield single shot rifle. I stored them in MY room, unsecured in a gun rack. I had my first handgun by my late teens. Was it illegal? I don't know and at the time I frankly didn't care because no one was peeking over my shoulder or taking a 500 dollar payment to turn me in. Today's societal culture is surreal to a person like me. I have to struggle through culture shock every day. Stuff goes on the likes my generation would have never imagined. A convicted felon who has done his time has to find a way to protect his family the same as anyone else. Unless of course he is no longer one of the "people". To deny him and his family one of the most basic rights ( a right to life)i.e. a way to protect that life) is a horrible act in my opinion. Most gun laws do nothing to reduce crime... and we all know it. Bad guys will get guns even if they have to manufacture a 12 gauge zip gun from a piece of pipe. They will steal if they have to or kill to get one. |
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March 27, 2013, 09:04 PM | #32 |
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Kentucky case -- that's Bliss v. Commonwealth, 12 Ky. 90, 92 (1822). Under a previous constitution (the state's second), the Court of Appeals (then the state's highest) struck down a statute that prohibited concealed carry while still allowing open carry. The state's third constitution of 1850 retained the right to bear arms subject to the right of the legislature to ban or regulate concealed carry (which is still the same in the current constitution).
While Kentucky was a slave state, there is no indication that the prohibition struck down in 1822 was racially motivated. You're mostly thinking of laws passed in some states post-Civil War. In Kentucky, concealed carry was thought to be cowardly. It may have also contributed to the proliferation of dueling, a historical problem in the state. To this day, the constitutional oath of office includes affirmation that one has not fought a duel nor been a second in one. I'll just conclude that the state constitutional protections, which the courts enforced in 1822, are part of what makes this a gun friendly state. |
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