380 vs 32 Auto

[JERRYS.]

from the kel-tek the .380 will not expand AND penetrate to the 12" FBI minimum. in .32 this same gun will penetrate the same with FMJ and is considerably easier to shoot.

[seeker_two]

The jump from .32ACP to .380ACP is pretty small.

The jump from .32ACP to 9mm is astronomical.

[DT Guy]

I have a few concealable guns, in .25, .380, 9MM, .40 and .45, actually.

There's NO 9MM that can compare to the CW380 for concealability; there just isn't. You're down to the level where 1/8" here and there makes a real difference, and a CM9 is just WAY bigger in a pocket than the CW380. The only gun I have that can compare to it in size is a .25, which is slightly thinner, and roughly similar in outline; but it's a .25.


Larry

[DT Guy]

Derp-Double Tap!

[Kev]

My truck gun is my Astra A-60 in 380
Double stacked for 13+1 capacity. A bit big for pocket, the wide frame for the double stack mag makes it a bit fat...But she's very easy to shoot and has been 100% reliable and not a jam or FTF or FTE since I grabbed her. (They are available from an online dealer on GB for 170.00)

I do not know of anybody that would willingly take 14 rounds of 380's, no matter how puny they claim it to be.

[Cheapshooter]

from the kel-tek the .380 will not expand AND penetrate to the 12" FBI minimum

No, the Speer Gold Dot will go over 10" and expand to nearly 3/4 inch inch in bare gel. But through 4 layers of denim first it penetrates over 16 inches of ballistic gel. With less, but plenty enough expansion.
This was from a Sig 238 with the same 2.7" barrel length.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B_MmREJxM_E

[JERRYS.]

I stand corrected. but in the kel-tek id still prefer the more shootable .32

[Cheapshooter]

I have the similar Ruger LCP, and don't really have any trouble shooting it. The only 32ACP pistols I have are a Manurhin WaltherPP, and a CZ 50. Both larger, and heavier than the Kel-Tec, so I can't really compare. Been thinking about a Kel-Tec, or more possibly, if I can find one, a NAA in 32 just for S's&G's, but they aren't on the top of the list.
I will say that if I did carry a 32 it would be loaded with fmj rounds.

[Gazpacho]

Of the 380s I've tried or owned, the two I like are the

Kahr P380
Sig P238

The Sig shoots better, but the Kahr carries easier IMHO. Stellar Rigs makes a taco style pocket holster for both, and that significantly decreases the pocket carry size over leather.

My 380 ammo choice is Corbon Powerball and Hornady Critical Defense. My order of preferred performance is Reliability >> Penetration >> Expansion. I'm not the biggest fan of traditional hollow points in micro action handguns.

The only 9mm that I have been comfortable pocket carrying is the Kimber Solo Carry DC. Even the Kahr PM9, which I own, feels a bit too bulky in the pocket. However the Kimber is notorious for being ammo finicky.

Good luck on your search

[Rob007]

CW380 with Precision ammo XTP bullet meet FBI penetration std. Look at Shootingthebull410's tests on Utube for data. For real.

[Big Shrek]

I think if I was looking for a tiny 9mm, there's still the Tiniest...
the Keltec PF-9, its still the littlest and least weight

But I like a little heft, so a Star Firestar 43, or a S&W Shield would probably be my current pic...
in fact, been thinking quite a bit about the new Shield...could be one in my future...
if I don't snag a Star soon

[Rinspeed]

I own several .380s but I seriously doubt I would ever buy another one. Maybe if a sweat Sig 232 came around I might but to me there is no reason to own either a .380 0r .32 when there are so many great choices in 9mm that are just slightly larger.

[Bill DeShivs]

You will not find a 9mm as small as a P3AT.

[jonnyc]

With a pocket gun that I will actually have most of the time, I prefer 7/8 .32 rounds over 6/7 .380 rounds. I've carried my P32 for many years and have no plan to change. I can always upgrade the arsenal if I plan to visit a riskier area.