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July 5, 2009, 12:41 PM | #51 |
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Okay...putting all that aside for a moment, why hasnt the OP answered a direct question that has been asked twice already?
OP: if you felt so threatened and you were so in fear of serious bodily injury occurring to yourself or someone in your group that you felt compelled to fire three shots, why didn't you call 911 immediately after the incident? |
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B..., Naw they would frown on the 9 shot .22wrm revolver I use as the feral cat trap device!
I actually started out my hog trappin then doggin as a freelance state permitted wildlife trapper. Would like to be a "dog cop" but I would bring home too many and save taxpayers a ton of money ridding the world of others... I have more strict animal judgement lists than the authorities (call me cull happy) and far more stringent expectations of animal owners too.... Brent |
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I absolutely called 911 and reported it. Of course I did so after the fireworks were over... I would change that part of the story. What happened of that, you may ask? The sheriff called me on the phone, asked what happened, and said he would leave a note on that neighbors door.
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Interesting. A report of two vicious dogs on the loose ...vicious dogs that just charged and nearly attacked a group that contained children, with shots fired even.....and no immediate / in-person response from the police. Sounds like your sheriff and his deputies are mightily overworked.
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It was the 4th of July, of course they were overworked.
Bet that wasn't even close to the most dangerous call of the day involving shots fired.
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Rounding up all the delinquents shooting off illegal fireworks I presume? Give us a break.
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I guess the monacle-wearing tuxedoed citizens of Virginny never fire guns dangerously on the 4th?
Why don't you give me a break. I bet there was some serious firearms law-breaking going on in 5whiskeys neighborhood just like evey other neighborhood in the US yesterday. When Cooter lights off his hunting rifle into the next house over, drunk on radiator fluid, that gets a bigger response from the cops than some dogs that didn't bite anyone.
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Things have changed a bit since I grew up. I understand that. Plus, I didn't like the idea of aggresively dogs running loose in a residential neighborhood. I called the SD using the administrative number. Everything is kosher on that end. BTW, I don't mind legit questions. Such as the 911, why shoot 3 warning shots. I've addressed those. For everyone on their moral high ground high horse of "OMG he shot his pistol, he's guilty and trigger happy and ready to kill something"... stay out of my thread or I'll lock it myself. |
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Keep stretching B...maybe someone will actually take your comments defending that sheriff's department seriously.
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5whiskey,
Sounds like you did fine given the circumstances. Glad everyone (including the dogs) is OK. As for firing at a dog inside a suburban area, I will share a story that I posted here a couple of years back; Quote:
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I don't mind questions like "are you sure the backstop was adequate?". I don't mind comments such as "yeah, you need to keep the group closer together for events such as this" or "you need to overcome that safety fumble with more training". Or even "you could've just fired one warning shot". If there is any other way my tactics were deficient then tell me please. To question the decision made on grounds of morals does not comprise the response I was looking for. I acted as responsible as can be reasonably possible at the moment, balancing the need to be safe with the use of a firearm with the need to protect small children, without shedding any blood in the end. In other words don't give me some garbage such as... Quote:
#2 This is the polar opposite of the attitude "yeah doggies, I'm gonna shoot that boy for trespassing. Yee-haw". There's extremes on both ends of the spectrum. #3 I'm not you Last edited by 5whiskey; July 5, 2009 at 01:29 PM. |
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I would suggest going back to the house in question and telling the owner that their dogs "Threatened" your group. They might then take whatever actions are necessary to keep the dogs under control in the future.
It is a good idea to notify the police or animal control in case the owner doesn't take care of the situation. As for how you handled the situation, it worked and no harm was done. I take your description of the attitude of the dogs at face value because I wasn't there. |
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THE DOGS DIDN'T BITE ANYONE. NOBODY WAS HURT.
What do you expect, the friggin' SWAT team to show up?
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They did show up, so what are you freaking out about?
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Showing up eventually to notify the neighbor is good enough for me. Doesn't sound like rushing out there sirens blazing would have done a damn bit of good. They had bigger things to worry about at that moment if the 4th in that town is anything like the 4th in mine.
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So you dont think vicious and attacking dogs on the loose in a neighborhood where children obviously reside warrants your or the sheriff's attention? You dont consider citizens shooting their guns off in the street in order to defend themselves from serious bodily harm is enough to tear you away from traffic duty? I find that even more interesting.
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Since this situation did not involve physical contact I guess you should have asked... "So if a guy says something lewd to a pretty girl insinuating sexual contact..." At which I would say it likely isn't worthy of a 911 call afterwards... should he approach her further after the remark he needs 2 CoM!!!! Brent |
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