I have an unknown octagon barrel here

Keepin_Jeepin · November 9, 2012, 04:12 AM

No markings of any king. Another of grandpa's guns.

Any insight on this I don't even know where to begin.

Thanks!

Baba Louie · November 9, 2012, 07:27 AM

Belgian origins I'm pretty sure. Nagant family of double actions. As to specifics... not up to speed nor do I have me books at work to look up more info. Just going from memory.

ETA LINK
http://ww2.rediscov.com/spring/VFPCG...TABASE=objects,

It does sort of resemble the photo in the link does it not? Model 1878

Keepin_Jeepin · November 9, 2012, 01:42 PM

Very interesting. Good find, cylinder looks totally different though. Different caliber maybe? Other then that they look identical to me.

Is this a valuable gun? Is it a collectors piece? Its in rough shape, not even shootable as far as I am concerned.

Keepin_Jeepin · November 9, 2012, 01:44 PM

On second thought look how the cylinder contacts the barrel. The style is completely different. Maybe same manufacture but different models?

James K · November 9, 2012, 01:54 PM

The cylinder arbor (the part the cylinder rotates on) seems to be either missing or broken off.

The gun is a general type of European revolver of the c. 1870-1900 era. I am pretty sure it was made in Belgium and if you look closely at the back of the cylinder you might find an oval with the letters E L G, the Liege proofmark.

Those guns are fairly common, even in the U.S. and are of little value, perhaps $200 tops if in excellent condition and working properly (which they rarely are).

Jim

Keepin_Jeepin · November 9, 2012, 02:09 PM

Hmm okay thanks

WyoShooter · November 10, 2012, 10:20 AM

This gun looks to be of the Lefaucheux design. A little bit later than Civil War era as the cylinder doesn't seem to be the pin fire cartridge type.

Jim Watson · November 10, 2012, 07:06 PM

A nameless open top centerfire, one evolutionary step beyond the pinfires.

It is similar but not identical to a Gasser 1870 Austro-Hungarian infantry officer's revolver.
Maybe a Belgian or if not proofmarked, Spanish copy of the Gasser.

dewey · November 13, 2012, 03:00 PM

Jim, above, said.

November 9, 2012, 04:12 AM	#1
Keepin_Jeepin Senior Member Join Date: October 3, 2007 Location: Chelan Posts: 161	I have an unknown octagon barrel here No markings of any king. Another of grandpa's guns. Any insight on this I don't even know where to begin. Thanks!

November 9, 2012, 07:27 AM	#2
Baba Louie Senior Member Join Date: September 23, 2001 Posts: 1,552	Belgian origins I'm pretty sure. Nagant family of double actions. As to specifics... not up to speed nor do I have me books at work to look up more info. Just going from memory. ETA LINK http://ww2.rediscov.com/spring/VFPCG...TABASE=objects, It does sort of resemble the photo in the link does it not? Model 1878 __________________ A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government." - George Washington, January 8, 1790, First State of the Union Address Last edited by Baba Louie; November 9, 2012 at 12:39 PM.

November 10, 2012, 10:20 AM	#7
WyoShooter Junior Member Join Date: April 10, 2011 Location: Western Wyoming Posts: 6	This gun looks to be of the Lefaucheux design. A little bit later than Civil War era as the cylinder doesn't seem to be the pin fire cartridge type. __________________ "You can get more accomplished with a smile and a gun than you can with just a smile."

November 13, 2012, 03:00 PM	#9
dewey Senior Member Join Date: December 22, 1999 Location: South East Posts: 399	WHAT Jim, above, said. __________________ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ...and He will come again . . . *SOON !*

November 9, 2012, 01:42 PM	#3
Keepin_Jeepin Senior Member Join Date: October 3, 2007 Location: Chelan Posts: 161	Very interesting. Good find, cylinder looks totally different though. Different caliber maybe? Other then that they look identical to me. Is this a valuable gun? Is it a collectors piece? Its in rough shape, not even shootable as far as I am concerned.

November 9, 2012, 01:44 PM	#4
Keepin_Jeepin Senior Member Join Date: October 3, 2007 Location: Chelan Posts: 161	On second thought look how the cylinder contacts the barrel. The style is completely different. Maybe same manufacture but different models?

November 9, 2012, 01:54 PM	#5
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	The cylinder arbor (the part the cylinder rotates on) seems to be either missing or broken off. The gun is a general type of European revolver of the c. 1870-1900 era. I am pretty sure it was made in Belgium and if you look closely at the back of the cylinder you might find an oval with the letters E L G, the Liege proofmark. Those guns are fairly common, even in the U.S. and are of little value, perhaps $200 tops if in excellent condition and working properly (which they rarely are). Jim

November 9, 2012, 02:09 PM	#6
Keepin_Jeepin Senior Member Join Date: October 3, 2007 Location: Chelan Posts: 161	Hmm okay thanks

November 10, 2012, 07:06 PM	#8
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,543	A nameless open top centerfire, one evolutionary step beyond the pinfires. It is similar but not identical to a Gasser 1870 Austro-Hungarian infantry officer's revolver. Maybe a Belgian or if not proofmarked, Spanish copy of the Gasser.