Sig vs. H&K - Page 3

Paul K · July 26, 2002, 06:40 PM

Id take an Hk, but I do like sigs.

Hk's have the Mark23, the Mp5, the PSG1, and this special feeling i get when i shoot them.

Sigs have a better DA/SA pull and fit my had pretty good
But i love HK and im an HK man.

agtman · July 26, 2002, 06:43 PM

Get the Sig.

The difference in price will allow you a few extra mags, ...

... and a nice investment in gold bullion.

Greg Bell · July 26, 2002, 06:52 PM

Hmm...

SIGs are more reliable. P7 is safe and fast. Ugghh! I have been going back and forth for years. USPs don't cut it.
GHB

IanS · July 26, 2002, 08:49 PM

Ha! I just put Sig 1 vote (for now) over the HK.

Both perfectly fine. I've got nothing against either of them. But if I HAD to choose its Sig.

Mr. SIG · July 27, 2002, 08:49 AM

I believe this is this closest poll I have seen on this forum, I'm sure glad I don't have to make the decision. I will vote SIG though. Good luck in your choice, you are going to need it!!

.357SIG · July 27, 2002, 12:25 PM

The big thing HK has over SIG is durability. I choose HK.

Jagman13 · July 27, 2002, 11:24 PM

Own USP's and SIG's of all types...SIG wins handsdown if for the trigger alone! SIG! By the way...they are gorgeous guns

krept · July 27, 2002, 11:41 PM

That's great so many people have voted on this thread. Good stuff.

Shake · July 28, 2002, 12:10 AM

Its been running since April, but it has had good response.

Must be some kind of a glitch in the system though, SIG is ahead by a few votes right now.

We'll have to have them check out the vote tallying thing-a-ma-jig.

Shake

Chugach · July 28, 2002, 12:38 AM

Tried 'em both, SIG won.

vyper005 · July 28, 2002, 09:42 AM

I voted for Sig...Just for the sheer comfort...

borderjeeper · July 28, 2002, 11:41 AM

I guess this is a mout point cause I already made this decision.
I went with the HK USP 40 over a Sig P229. One little story bout the HK.
I went through a police academy and used my HK to qual with. During range time we had to do a drill where your partner loaded spent shell casings along with live rounds in your magazine to simulate/cause a misfeed. Well my HK cycled and put into battery the spent casings, no stovepipes or any other misfeeds. I'm pretty dingdanged impressed with my HK.

MattXYZ · July 9, 2007, 09:54 PM

SIG hands down. A cocky little guy I know has a HK MK23 that go for, oh $2000:barf:, and I out shoot myself with the SIG 226 every time VS using his HK. HK handguns are lame. HK is more of a SMG and assault rifle company. They don't know wus up with handguns, obviously-and until now I proved it to myself, I was all tha way for HK, too! They are eclipsed by the fine SIG SAUER, a true handgun!

Jason_G · July 9, 2007, 10:44 PM

Love both. Voted H&K, but God I love Sig's too. Those are my two favorite handgun manufacturers out there.

Jason

vox rationis · July 9, 2007, 10:47 PM

I own an USP and a USPc in .40 and I really like them a lot. I've never handled a Sig that I didn't like overall, but I went with HK 'cause they are lighter and I like the V1 manual of arms (Cocked and Locked, or even DA/SA and locked with a safety action just like the SA C&L). Just like everyone else says, go to the range and try both out, they are both great, so it is a matter of hand fit and personal preference.

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Which has a better DA trigger pull? (for IPSC production)

I'd shoot the HK SA C&L for IPSC

JAXX · July 10, 2007, 10:49 AM

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HK handguns are lame.

Wow, now that is an intelligent statement.

I find it interesting that most of the people who own both (in this poll) chose their HK over their Sig, for whatever reason. I laugh at those who say Glock is better than both. I have never had any experience with a Sig pistol, so I have nothing to say about them. I would never be one of those who say that something is "lame" because I know nothing about it. I know that Sigs have a great reputation for being a fine, well made pistol. They did not get that reputation from advertising. When shopping for my latest pistol recently, I chose the USPc .40. I have to say it is the finest pistol I have ever held and shot.

Wvladimire · July 10, 2007, 02:04 PM

I have owned Sigs in the past. And I hope to purchase an HK USP Compact in 45 in the near future. I used to own a Sig P220 & GSR 1911. I have sold them both. The P200 just didn't feel right the more I shot it and it always shot low. The GSR, great gun, but. The lever that engages the firing pin for the beavertail safety sheared off twice both times I shot it. It also fired low and Sig did fix the lever both times. However, when you pay that much for a gun, you expect it to work. I believe the shearing happened because the specs on the Sig GSR were too tight. For a 1911, when it comes to accuracy, you want a nice hand fitted slide to frame fit. But too tight a fit is bad. So I am now the proud owner of a Taurus PT1911, I like the feel, features, and it does not fire low.

For CCW I am going with an HK compact. Just me two cents.

IM_Lugger · July 10, 2007, 04:58 PM

IMO both are overprices esp. HK

But I'd take SIG or Beretta over HK for sure.

Alert · July 10, 2007, 10:56 PM

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The big thing HK has over SIG is durability.

got any empirical evidence?

RevolverLover · July 10, 2007, 11:37 PM

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IMO both are overprices esp. HK

New SIG prices are pretty much the same as H&K depending on the model.

Rmstn1580 · July 10, 2007, 11:54 PM

I prefer the SiG. I have a P220 and the only malfunction I get is due to bad magazine springs. I can't remember any stove pipes and I've shot that gun many times. The only time it really jammed up was near the end of the day at the gun range and it locked down pretty bad. Slid up into the barrel and I couldn't rack or eject the clip. That was tricky. But that was after like 700 rounds so there's your problem.

Alert · July 11, 2007, 10:14 AM

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I laugh at those who say Glock is better than both.

the Glock is good too

Silvanus · July 11, 2007, 10:43 AM

I really like SIGs. But with the grip I use to shoot semis, my thumb holds the slide release down, so that the slide won't lock back after the last rounds. That's why I prefer HKs. But they are both great firearms.

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They don't know wus up with handguns, obviously

Wow, so much ignorance and stupidity in one sentence. Not bad...

Alert · July 11, 2007, 08:44 PM

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The big thing HK has over SIG is durability. I choose HK.

so with no proof we are supposed to take your subjective word for it?

quickcanary · July 12, 2007, 08:52 PM

It would be very difficult to "prove" anything without conducting some sort of study with a very large sample size of guns from each manufacturer. HK guns have a reputation for reliability and durability, but so do guns from Glock and Sig. People will say what they want and sometimes cite a torture test, anecdote, or point out how Agency XYZ is issued a certain brand/model of gun...but I'm not aware of any concrete evidence that says this gun is any more durable than that gun. It really just comes down to opinion, personal preference, and luck.

View Poll Results: Sig vs. H&K
Sig	179	51.73%
H&K	167	48.27%
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July 26, 2002, 06:52 PM	#53
Greg Bell Senior Member Join Date: May 25, 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 2,053	Hmm... SIGs are more reliable. P7 is safe and fast. Ugghh! I have been going back and forth for years. USPs don't cut it. GHB __________________ Correct anwers to gun questions to save time... Carry: j-frame Home/combat: Hk P30 or Beretta 92G Doomsday: Colt 6920 with Aimpoint t-2

July 26, 2002, 08:49 PM	#54
IanS Senior Member Join Date: October 7, 2000 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,632	Ha! I just put Sig 1 vote (for now) over the HK. Both perfectly fine. I've got nothing against either of them. But if I HAD to choose its Sig. __________________ Owning a certain handgun isn't a Lifestyle Choice nor is it a Personal Statement. It either works for you or it doesn't. The best article about the 1911 on the internet: http://www.10-8performance.com/1911_Duty_Use.html

July 27, 2002, 08:49 AM	#55
Mr. SIG Member Join Date: April 17, 2002 Location: Atlanta, Ga. Posts: 53	All I know is...... I believe this is this closest poll I have seen on this forum, I'm sure glad I don't have to make the decision. I will vote SIG though. Good luck in your choice, you are going to need it!! __________________ Mr. SIG P226 TT P226 P220 KIMBER COMPACT WALTHER P99 WALTHER P22 SPRINGFIELD XD-9 PARA ORD P10-45 SMITH & WESSON 22A-1 HK USP 45

July 27, 2002, 11:41 PM	#58
krept Senior Member Join Date: August 20, 2000 Location: AZ Posts: 1,363	thumbs up That's great so many people have voted on this thread. Good stuff. __________________ the tallest blade of grass is the first to greet the lawnmower blade

July 26, 2002, 06:40 PM	#51
Paul K Senior Member Join Date: February 27, 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 674	Id take an Hk, but I do like sigs. Hk's have the Mark23, the Mp5, the PSG1, and this special feeling i get when i shoot them. Sigs have a better DA/SA pull and fit my had pretty good But i love HK and im an HK man.

July 26, 2002, 06:43 PM	#52
agtman Junior member Join Date: July 26, 2001 Location: midwest Posts: 2,374	Get the Sig. The difference in price will allow you a few extra mags, ... ... and a nice investment in gold bullion.

July 27, 2002, 12:25 PM	#56
.357SIG Senior Member Join Date: August 18, 1999 Posts: 1,023	The big thing HK has over SIG is durability. I choose HK.

July 27, 2002, 11:24 PM	#57
Jagman13 Member Join Date: June 9, 2002 Location: Dallas Tx Posts: 25	Own USP's and SIG's of all types...SIG wins handsdown if for the trigger alone! SIG! By the way...they are gorgeous guns

July 28, 2002, 12:10 AM	#59
Shake Senior Member Join Date: September 5, 1999 Location: Utah Posts: 1,004	Its been running since April, but it has had good response. Must be some kind of a glitch in the system though, SIG is ahead by a few votes right now. We'll have to have them check out the vote tallying thing-a-ma-jig. Shake __________________ “The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make some other bastard die for his.” -George Patton

July 28, 2002, 12:38 AM	#60
Chugach Senior Member Join Date: July 24, 2002 Location: Alaska Posts: 172	Tried 'em both, SIG won.

July 28, 2002, 09:42 AM	#61
vyper005 Senior Member Join Date: September 9, 2000 Location: Delaware Posts: 350	I voted for Sig...Just for the sheer comfort...

July 28, 2002, 11:41 AM	#62
borderjeeper Member Join Date: July 17, 2002 Location: People's Republic of Kalifornia Posts: 23	I guess this is a mout point cause I already made this decision. I went with the HK USP 40 over a Sig P229. One little story bout the HK. I went through a police academy and used my HK to qual with. During range time we had to do a drill where your partner loaded spent shell casings along with live rounds in your magazine to simulate/cause a misfeed. Well my HK cycled and put into battery the spent casings, no stovepipes or any other misfeeds. I'm pretty dingdanged impressed with my HK. __________________ 1911s and Jeeps

July 9, 2007, 09:54 PM	#63
MattXYZ Junior Member Join Date: June 24, 2007 Posts: 6	SIG hands down. A cocky little guy I know has a HK MK23 that go for, oh $2000:barf:, and I out shoot myself with the SIG 226 every time VS using his HK. HK handguns are lame. HK is more of a SMG and assault rifle company. They don't know wus up with handguns, obviously-and until now I proved it to myself, I was all tha way for HK, too! They are eclipsed by the fine SIG SAUER, a true handgun!

July 9, 2007, 10:44 PM	#64
Jason_G Senior Member Join Date: December 18, 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,902	Love both. Voted H&K, but God I love Sig's too. Those are my two favorite handgun manufacturers out there. Jason

July 10, 2007, 02:04 PM	#67
Wvladimire Member Join Date: February 4, 2007 Posts: 47	Sig vs HK I have owned Sigs in the past. And I hope to purchase an HK USP Compact in 45 in the near future. I used to own a Sig P220 & GSR 1911. I have sold them both. The P200 just didn't feel right the more I shot it and it always shot low. The GSR, great gun, but. The lever that engages the firing pin for the beavertail safety sheared off twice both times I shot it. It also fired low and Sig did fix the lever both times. However, when you pay that much for a gun, you expect it to work. I believe the shearing happened because the specs on the Sig GSR were too tight. For a 1911, when it comes to accuracy, you want a nice hand fitted slide to frame fit. But too tight a fit is bad. So I am now the proud owner of a Taurus PT1911, I like the feel, features, and it does not fire low. For CCW I am going with an HK compact. Just me two cents.

July 10, 2007, 04:58 PM	#68
IM_Lugger Senior Member Join Date: June 27, 2004 Posts: 2,011	+1 for SIG IMO both are overprices esp. HK But I'd take SIG or Beretta over HK for sure. __________________ "I feel the Beretta is a great character, it's so strong and elegant. The other guns look dumb to me." - John Woo

July 10, 2007, 11:54 PM	#71
Rmstn1580 Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 2007 Location: Peoples Republik of Kalifornia Posts: 389	I prefer the SiG. I have a P220 and the only malfunction I get is due to bad magazine springs. I can't remember any stove pipes and I've shot that gun many times. The only time it really jammed up was near the end of the day at the gun range and it locked down pretty bad. Slid up into the barrel and I couldn't rack or eject the clip. That was tricky. But that was after like 700 rounds so there's your problem.

July 12, 2007, 08:52 PM	#75
quickcanary Senior Member Join Date: April 23, 2007 Location: Bluefield, VA Posts: 258	It would be very difficult to "prove" anything without conducting some sort of study with a very large sample size of guns from each manufacturer. HK guns have a reputation for reliability and durability, but so do guns from Glock and Sig. People will say what they want and sometimes cite a torture test, anecdote, or point out how Agency XYZ is issued a certain brand/model of gun...but I'm not aware of any concrete evidence that says this gun is any more durable than that gun. It really just comes down to opinion, personal preference, and luck.