I can't be the only one...

ngzcaz · June 12, 2012, 05:27 PM

that's having problems finding a pump to fit my 5"8" size. LOP is Ok at 14 inches but when I grap the wood to cycle the slide it feels like I'm reaching too far and is very uncomfortable. It also seems like I'm looking up at the barrel. I qualified many times on an old Remington 12 gauge pump with rifle sights on the front and rear and thought nothing of the sight plane. Now at 67 its a big deal. Btw, that old Remington shot slugs offhand at 50 yards that guys find hard to match today with fancy rifled slug barrels. Ammo was Remington sluggers.
I have an old 16 gauge SxS that fits like a glove but the price and selection of ammo is increasingly hard to find. So far I've held and cycled Remington 870, Weatherby Upland and Mossberg 500. I've resigned myself to putting front sights on whatever I get to solve the sight plane issue but I can't seem to find the length. Any ideas ?

And I can't afford a semi

zippy13 · June 12, 2012, 05:49 PM

There are two basic types of pump grips and they can be seen in the early evolution of the Winchester Model-12. The first type is the basic corn cob grip. Like you, many found the corn cob too far forward and the extended grip was introduced. Look for a pump where the grip extends under the action when in the rear position. With an extended grip, you don't have to reach as far forward as with the corn cob style.

ngzcaz · June 12, 2012, 06:42 PM

Yeah, that's it exactly. I'll bet a lot of people just live with it and aren't as good as what they might be with a properly fitting shotgun. Any idea which of the modern shotguns have that grip ? I even tried a youth model but the LOP was a little too short.

Gunplummer · June 12, 2012, 06:57 PM

How about an old bolt action? I do O.K. with my old Western Auto .410.

oneounceload · June 12, 2012, 07:08 PM

Ironic that at 5-8 you are at that "average" that the gun makers design their guns for and yet you say they do not fit

zippy13 · June 12, 2012, 07:11 PM

The non-tactical 870s have extended grips as do some of the Mossberg 500 models. The Remingtons seem to have a little more extension than the Mossbergs. Check their web site pictures and you can get an idea of how much extension the grips have on the various models. Obviously, a bottom ejector model, like the I-37 or BPS can't accommodate an extended grip.

TheKlawMan · June 12, 2012, 07:22 PM

ngzcaz, Hello!

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It also seems like I'm looking up at the barrel.

I wonder if that is part of the problem and if this indicates that your head is a bit far back on a comb that drops your eye more the futher back you rest your cheek on an angled comb stock. Is it possible that you haven't shot for a long time and don't have it quite seated in the pocket of your shoulder?

June 12, 2012, 05:27 PM	#1
ngzcaz Member Join Date: March 26, 2012 Posts: 39	I can't be the only one... that's having problems finding a pump to fit my 5"8" size. LOP is Ok at 14 inches but when I grap the wood to cycle the slide it feels like I'm reaching too far and is very uncomfortable. It also seems like I'm looking up at the barrel. I qualified many times on an old Remington 12 gauge pump with rifle sights on the front and rear and thought nothing of the sight plane. Now at 67 its a big deal. Btw, that old Remington shot slugs offhand at 50 yards that guys find hard to match today with fancy rifled slug barrels. Ammo was Remington sluggers. I have an old 16 gauge SxS that fits like a glove but the price and selection of ammo is increasingly hard to find. So far I've held and cycled Remington 870, Weatherby Upland and Mossberg 500. I've resigned myself to putting front sights on whatever I get to solve the sight plane issue but I can't seem to find the length. Any ideas ? And I can't afford a semi

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June 12, 2012, 05:49 PM	#2
zippy13 Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,442	There are two basic types of pump grips and they can be seen in the early evolution of the Winchester Model-12. The first type is the basic corn cob grip. Like you, many found the corn cob too far forward and the extended grip was introduced. Look for a pump where the grip extends under the action when in the rear position. With an extended grip, you don't have to reach as far forward as with the corn cob style.

June 12, 2012, 06:42 PM	#3
ngzcaz Member Join Date: March 26, 2012 Posts: 39	Yeah, that's it exactly. I'll bet a lot of people just live with it and aren't as good as what they might be with a properly fitting shotgun. Any idea which of the modern shotguns have that grip ? I even tried a youth model but the LOP was a little too short.

June 12, 2012, 06:57 PM	#4
Gunplummer Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2010 Location: South East Pa. Posts: 3,364	How about an old bolt action? I do O.K. with my old Western Auto .410.

June 12, 2012, 07:08 PM	#5
oneounceload Junior member Join Date: April 18, 2008 Location: N. Central Florida Posts: 8,518	Ironic that at 5-8 you are at that "average" that the gun makers design their guns for and yet you say they do not fit

June 12, 2012, 07:11 PM	#6
zippy13 Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,442	The non-tactical 870s have extended grips as do some of the Mossberg 500 models. The Remingtons seem to have a little more extension than the Mossbergs. Check their web site pictures and you can get an idea of how much extension the grips have on the various models. Obviously, a bottom ejector model, like the I-37 or BPS can't accommodate an extended grip.