March 12, 2011, 05:09 PM | #1 |
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VERY OLD s&w HELP PLEASE
i have found a very old s&w 38 revolver
the serial number is on the handle under the trigger gaurd i dont know anything about guns but it looks really old i would like tto know what i found the serial number is 30555 it also has p-38 on it dont have any pictures but he hammer has a cone like spike and theres just like a little cuttout on the side to put the bullets in but no cover just an open spot any help would be appreciated it needs some repairs and i would like to know if it would be worth putting any money into |
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A pic would really help,,,
A pic would really help,,,
Any number of can try to help you if we knew what it looked like. Aarond
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i will try to upload some from my blackberry cant guarantee the quality
have browsed thru thousands of pics on google but havent seen one yet some of the most distinguishing points thogh are .... the chamber is very crude looking the trigger is so very close to the back of the trigger guard on the grips(dont know if theyre original or not) there is a target with three holes shot in it |
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Doesn't sound like a S&W revolver.
More likely that it's a 38 S&W caliber, (many guns were chambered in 38 S&W) but the gun is from a different company. From the description, it sounds kind of like a very old H&R , Hopkins & Allen, or something similar to that. |
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If it looks "generally crude" and "old" at the same time, and looks at least vaguely like an American design, bet on a pre-WW2 Spanish critter. Tons of that crap made it's way in. They were junk when new and haven't improved with age. They were the "Taurus/Rossi/Armscor" of their day but nowhere near as well made as any of those.
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Are you sure it's even a revolver?
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I may be wrong,,,
But wasn't the target with three bullet holes an H&R Logo?
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Some of the older H&R's had grips with a target with holes in it but I was thinking it was six holes, not three. It's most likely an H&R chambered for .38 S&W.
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Looks like an H&R Victor.
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I don't know what it is but I do know it's not a Smith and Wesson.
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It IS an H&R "Victor" - there are 5 "holes" in the target. No flutes in the cylinder and round barrel are give-away. It looks to be a Model 1904 derived revolver with the oversized, wrap around "Target Grips". If .38 S&W it will be a 5 shooter. To remove the cylinder, push in on the "blade" on the front of the frame and while holding that in - pull the cylinder pin out of the frame.
The "cone" on the hammer is the firing pin. Probable production era for that serial number is mid 19 teens. RETAIL Value - depending upon condition (which can't be told from the picture) would top out around $150 - $175 in EXCELLENT condition. Average Retail for Average condition examples will be in the $100 to $120 range. Junkers bring about $25 - 35 for parts. NOTE: the cartridge is the .38 S&W NOT the .38 S&W SPECIAL. Seek professional help/evaluation (of your gun) before attempting to fire. |
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Winchester,
"Just a little hole on the side to put bullets in" could as easily be an ejection port for somebody very unfamiliar with handguns. "P-38" is also not a standard revolver marking, whereas.... But, the photo helps. Denis |
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The term revolver itself involves a cylinder. Based on the OPs post, its a big assumption to think that the person doesn't know a revolver from an automatic, but moving on... Quote:
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Geeze Winchester,
That's a half hour out of your life you'll never get back. Considering I've heard people use the terms "revolver" and "automatic" interchangeably in ignorance for many years, and the way the OP was showing a marked unfamiliarity with guns in general, I've see stranger things occur on gun forums when new people give descriptions too vague to be definitive. As I said- now that he's posted a picture, progress has been made. Denis |
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You could say I wasted 30 min - its a hyperbole, I know - but didn't you waste your time with your first post when there was plenty of evidence that made the gun a revolver? Isn't your 2nd post a waste as well when READING the posts by the OP proves my point?
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