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September 5, 2008, 09:32 PM | #1 |
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Traditions "Josie Wales" .36
Evidently this is a fairly new model:
http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/prod...ucts_id=108237 It seems no different from Pietta's standard 8" barrel 1861 Navy, except that it is antiqued. And yet the price is MUCH higher. Every dealer I've checked lists them for over $400. Midway sells the standard Pietta 1861 for only $257.99: http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpag...382&t=11082005 I like the Josie but the price is too high. Anybody know if there's more to it? |
September 5, 2008, 10:47 PM | #2 |
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Traditions has it on their web site for $451, product code number FR186126. It's currently out of stock. It's pictured just under an 'antiqued finish' 1860 Army, also out of stock, listed for $411. The only apparent difference between them is the rebated cylinder on the 1860 Army.
On the Traditions site the frame and barrel are described as 'antique', not case colored, although the frame is clearly case colored and the barrel is not in the picture they provide. Your Able Ammo link describes the frame and barrel as both being case colored, but they show the same picture as Traditions in which the barrel is not case colored. |
September 6, 2008, 02:15 PM | #3 |
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I handled one today at Buffalo Gun Center. It looks and feels exactly like the Pietta 1861 Navy, except it is antiqued. I guess the higher price includes a premium for the antiquing, which is less severe than Uberti's, but very costly. It would be less expensive to buy the 1861 and antique it myself, though the gun looked good.
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Waaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy overpriced IMHO. Buy a blue/CCH model & remove the finish yourself if you've a mind to have one look old. I prefer mine to look as if they had been bought within the last 10 years and used some.
YMMV
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Price seems way high to me. You can find a signature series Colt 1861 Navy for that kind of money.
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Get yourself a regular Pietta or Uberti at whatever sale price you can find, and I'll antique it for you for $20.
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Walker
The Outlaw Josie Wales is one of my favorite movies, But he used a pair of Colt Walkers in 44 cal.
http://www.moviemarket.co.uk/The_Out...Wales_T102638/
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JW used several different guns, not just Walkers.
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Show me a picture of JW using an 1861 Navy!
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Check out these 1861 .36 Navy (Signature Series)
Sundance, Smokin' Gun...I know, this pic is getting old. |
September 19, 2008, 08:48 PM | #15 |
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From The Outlaw Josey Wales, this is the "Smoky Ruins" gun, from early in the film:
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/8532/ojw13yo.jpg http://users.erols.com/kcoblenz/JWgun1.JPG Appears to be an 1861 Navy conversion. |
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I didn't think he used a Navy but he did use more pistols than I thought. Thanks.
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You sure, Hawg? The pics I posted show a gun with no ejector rod and a non-rebated cylinder (the frame under the cylinder appears to be cut straight, with no cutout) . It doesn't seem to match any of the guns in the link you posted.
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That's the one from the ruins. Hard to tell, could be a 61 Navy but I don't think it actually shows it being used in the movie, just found. Actually in the second link you posted the cylinder does look rebated.
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Yeah, it's hard to tell from the pictures. I enlarged them and still couldn't tell for sure. The cylinder has a color shift at the spot where a rebated cylinder is stepped up, but the frame window is cut straight at the bottom. In any case, even if it is a '61 conversion, I don't believe it was used later in the film, as you stated.
So, I guess Pietta has created a fantasy "Josey Wales" gun -- an overpriced, lightly antiqued '61 Navy with an eight-inch (???) barrel. Gotta love Italians! (I am half Italian.) |
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Looks Like a '61 Navy to me http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title...:Fueraley4.jpg Meet "Venom" 1861 Navy..... SG
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I do believe it is an 1860 Army. You can see the line for the rebated cylinder when you magnify the picture.
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That Pic with Josey holdin' what I thought was am 1861 navy won't come up anymore, gonna remove the link. Came up today... SG
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