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June 19, 2009, 01:35 AM | #1 |
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Carrying across state lines
Im flying out to Nevada in two weeks and am taking my .45 with me. I want to know what is legal in terms of carrying acoss state lines. I'll be driving back to Virginia and will be going through these states NV, AZ, CO, NM, KS, MO, KY,. I dont have a concealed carry yet but just planned on keeping the .45 in the car locked in a pelican case mostly. And does anyone have experience with taking firearms on airplanes? I know they must be unloaded locked in a hardcase and checked, then put in your checked baggage.
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June 19, 2009, 02:32 AM | #2 |
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i work in ky and if you dont have a chl then the gunMUST be in the glove compartment. anywhere other than a factory installed glove compartment is considered concealed. even if its laying on the dash board its still considered concealed.
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here you go
KRS 527.020 - "A deadly weapon shall not be deemed concealed on or about the person if it is located in a glove compartment, regularly installed in a motor vehicle by its manufacturer regardless of whether said compartment is locked, unlocked, or does not have a locking mechanism." |
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You do not have to have it in the glove box while traveling through Kentucky. A locked case would be fine in your example so long as it is unloaded.
However, if you would like to load it, any one in Kentucky (resident or non)can have a loaded gun in their glovebox without a CCW license. The glove box (without a valid CCW license) is the only place a loaded gun may be in a vehicle in Kentucky. Kentucky is also an open carry state for the record. Also check out www.handgunlaw.us for other state laws.
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In AZ, if you want to have it cocked, locked, & ready to rock, it has to be in a holster in your glove box.
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June 19, 2009, 04:36 PM | #9 |
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So am I ok to open carry in all the states I listed or not? I'm having a difficult time understanding that www.handgunlaw.us site. It looks like KS, and CO, don't honor CCW permits -not that I have one- from anywhere else? Does that mean i can still open carry? And has anyone had experience flying with there firearms?
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Open carry isn't legal in all states. You'll have to check each state's information to find out. If in question, lock it up unloaded.
As far as flying with guns, use the search function on here. There's a few posts running around on the subject. In all honestly, as far as flying with your gun, the best bet is to call your airline and ask them for the procedures.
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Yeah, wow. Not necessary to keep it in the glove box when passing through KY. Heck, just keep it holstered on your hip for that matter...open carry state. Or keep it between the seat and center console in plain view.
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In MO, you don't even need a carry permit to have a loaded firearm with you in the vehicle.
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In Louisiana, in car carry is wide open. No restrictions.
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June 21, 2009, 12:42 AM | #15 |
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Flying with firearms and ammunition...
it's something I've done a fair amount of.
It isn't that tough if you simply follow all the rules. Basics are here on the TSA website: http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...rial_1666.shtm But you'd be wise to also go to the website of whichever airline you're ticketed on to see if they have some other restrictions. Here is one example: http://www.united.com/page/article/0,6722,1035,00.html (scroll down to Firearms) Print this stuff out and bring a copy of it with you. Occasionally you run into a gate agent who isn't familiar with the standard operating procedure, and they want you to pull out the firearm and show them that its unloaded. Don't do that. If that happens, ask to speak to a supervisor. It's just a matter of educating them, but don't pull the gun out in front of the ticket counter. It only happened to me with one guy...several times with the same guy, finally a letter to the airport manager got this dude straightened out. But only one ticket agent, and thats dealing with Delta agents in over 8 airports inside the continental US. But it only takes one guy to ruin your entire day. On Delta airlines you declare that you have a firearm in checked baggage. They hand you an orange tag. You sign it, declaring that the firearm is unloaded. The orange tag goes INSIDE your suitcase. (Otherwise it becomes a "please steal me" tag.) I travel with the pistol in a hardshell pistol case, which was locked, inside a Samsonite hardshell suitcase. The suitcase also should be locked - but you need to ensure you have TSA locks so that TSA inspectors can get inside your bag to inspect it. Pelican cases (such as the 1510) are also real nice for checked luggage, but they're heavy. Here's one you might find useful: http://www.pelican-case.com/15caonca.html You use padlocks with these - but again, ensure they are TSA padlocks, so your bag can be inspected. If you're carrying ammunition, ensure that it is in the original manufacturer's box. They get hinky if you have one of those aftermarket plastic cases. So long as its in the manufacturers box you'll have no problems. (As you can see on the Delta website, you're limited to 11 lbs of ammunition, but as you're limited to 50 lbs total anyway this isn't generally an issue.) Occasionally they tell you to go get your suitcase xrayed. No worries. Just run it through the xray machine - you'll see the outline of your firearm as it goes through. One thing you might find helpful. Traveling with a gun occasionally subjects you to additional delay. Get to the airport even earlier than normal. An extra hour isn't too much - I've had to roll the suitcase over to a remote office in the Denver International Airport to get it xrayed. Then roll it back, have it inspected by TSA, checked in, etc. You don't want to be rushed trying to make a gate time if you're traveling with a firearm. Leave yourself plenty of time. (You can always find a way to kill time once you've processed through security.) Regards, Doc Last edited by Doc Intrepid; June 21, 2009 at 01:07 AM. Reason: typo |
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I travel all the time with a checked pistol (15-20-times a year)
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BTW, if flying out of a New York State airport without a New York state pistol permit, be prepared to prove that you are both coming from, and going directly to a place that you may legally possess the firearm. You may not even possess a pistol in the state of New York without a NY permit, and they won't issue you one is not a resident. Be prepared for a delay and possible arrest, regardless of any other facts. There may be other states like this, but this is the worst one I am aware of for interstate travel. Happy trails. |
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It doesn't really matter what kind of lock you put on your pistol case
the TSA can unlock it and will if they want to.
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A federal law...............
Volkmer-McClure says you can have your firearm unloaded, locked in a container, and stored in a readily un-accessible place in your vehicle,(trunk) and can transport it through ANY state, as long as you are traveling straight through, and not making any prolonged stops. Stopping for meals, or gas, is ok, but stopping to see an old friend for several hours is not! This law supercedes any state laws. Also, you must be traveling to a state where your firearm will be legal. I have transported through New Jersey, Maryland, Connecticut and New York under this law. I was going to New Hampshire, a state that recognizes my CCW.
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Taking Guns On Planes
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July 7, 2009, 09:48 PM | #22 |
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I flew out of Newark to Las Vegas with a pistol. I declared the unloaded firearm to the counter agent (I think it was Continental, but I could be wrong). A supervisor came over immediately and handed me a declaration form for me to sign. He then took my luggage bag and escorted me to the TSA zone, where a TSA agent asked me to insert my signed declaration into the bag.
The agent then placed my bag on the conveyor, saw through the x ray that it was in fact unloaded, then gave me the thumbs up and I was on my way. As a few people pointed out, always print out the TSA guidelines (http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...rial_1666.shtm) and bring them with you. Also, print out the policies of the airline you are flying on; they may be more restrictive than TSA's regulations. As GHF pointed out, do NOT use TSA locks on the container of the firearm! They may only be used on your luggage, but not the container itself. Be prepared to ask (politely) for a supervisor if the counter agent does not know what to do. I will also suggest what I did, as a matter of "just in case." I taped a paper to my gun container with my name, cell phone number, flight number, and even seat number, in the event that there were any problems, I could be located. One thing that I will also point out is that TSA will not (and should not) ask about registration information or anything like that. This is outside their scope of authority. I flew to Nevada, and back, without any problems. Very smoothe process, as long as you're prepared.
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