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February 4, 2013, 12:19 PM | #1 |
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Have Y'all held a Hawken
Firt off, I'm not posting this to crow but to express how lucky I am. At this past weekend's gun show, I spotted an old sidelock behind the seller's main table. At about 10', I undressed it for about five minutes. I then asked the seller if "that" was what I thought it was? He smiled and and said yes. I politely asked him if I could see it and jokingly offered to pay rent. ....
He handed it to me and requested that I not drop it. I could not believe I was actually holding one after all these years of being into M/L's. The barrel was larger and heavier than I could have imagined. We both guessed that it was a .56 or larger. Owner said that it had gone to Oregon in the early 1800's and wound up back in the Midwest. He bought it from a private collector and claimed he got a good deal. Needless to say, this was the best gun show I have been to, in the past thirty years and hard to express the feeling ... Beck in the early 70's, I saw my first Hawken (Great Plaines Rifle) in the Smithsonian institute, in a glass case. Did not bother to ask if I could hold that one .... I would ask if any of you, have ever held one and what feelings you experienced for this kind of stuff, touches the heart. .... Be Safe !!!
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February 4, 2013, 01:16 PM | #2 |
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About 25 years ago I went to a shoot with a buddy who does the Mountain Man thing.
One of the guys there was shooting an original Hawken. I did get to touch it it. Neat. Denis |
February 5, 2013, 09:00 PM | #3 |
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cool post. That's what I love about gun shows. You never know what your gonna see. There's a ton of history. i love taking my 11 year old son with me to them, and he learns a lot.
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February 6, 2013, 10:34 AM | #4 |
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Yes, I have a friend who owns one. He also builds replicas that can't be told from the originals.
BTW, if the owner you mentioned "guessed" at caliber I would question his story without proper provenance. |
February 6, 2013, 02:43 PM | #5 |
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Pahoo . . . . isn't it great when every once in a while an opportunity like that comes along? Congrats to you . . . it's always nice to be able to look and handle something like that!
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Yes he does !!!
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He will have it at the next area gun show and this time, I will have a camera. .. Quote:
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February 6, 2013, 06:36 PM | #7 |
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The closest I've come to holding a real one is mine built off blueprints but its not perfect. Some liberties had to be taken with it for economical reasons.
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February 8, 2013, 07:50 AM | #8 |
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I've got my gun club scheduled to see a private museum where there are some genuine Hawkens we can probably touch. The next question is whether it can be school sponsored so we can get a free ride (van) driven by a teacher (gunsmith).
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February 8, 2013, 11:26 AM | #9 | |
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Enjoy !!
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I have never seen one of their full-stock rifles. .... Thanks and; Be Safe !!!
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February 8, 2013, 11:29 AM | #10 |
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If one of our teachers can arrange it, we may also visit the Masons in Santa Fe. They have Kit Carson's rifle (and so I've read Jim Bridger's and Liver Eating Johnson's too).
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February 8, 2013, 11:46 AM | #11 |
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Never a real one.
My neighbor built one by scaling off of photographs in a magazine article I gave him. A Mountain Man speaker at a past NRA convention had one built as a copy of a museum rifle, I think Jim Bridger's. Darned crowbars. I am sure they served their purpose, but the first time I picked up a 7 lb fowling piece, I kind of lost interest in the heavy old rifles. Without eyeglasses, I am not effective with an open sighted rifle anyhow. If I had lived in frontier days, I would have been better armed with fowling piece, fusil, musket, or shotgun. And a lot less burdened. |
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The Mountain man museum ???
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Kit Carson and the next commercial copy that came along, was the Lyman. Quote:
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