i need help!!!

newuspowner · April 13, 2006, 11:21 PM

i consistantly shoot low and to the right on every gun i own, all are sighted in by my stepfather (a near perfect shot)... what am i doing wrong...
i own: h&k usp45c, h&k expert 45, spriengfield 1911 9mm, FN Five-seveN,
i am new to shooting hand guns i will take any and all advise
thanks
brett

tBlake08 · April 13, 2006, 11:54 PM

If YOU own them, sight them to you. If they're his, shoot up and left a little. Might also be an eye dominance thing? Doubt it though.

newuspowner · April 14, 2006, 12:01 AM

that is just it, i tried sighting them and i still shoot low&right..one thing i have found is i am better outside than indoors,

erh · April 14, 2006, 07:24 AM

newuspowner - If you're a "Righty" try less trigger finger; use your finger pad 1/2 way between the first joint & your finger tip; always try to "Squeeze" not "Pull" the trigger. If you're a "Lefty" try a little "More" trigger finger... Lastly, slow down and concentrate... Concentrate on focusing on your front sight blade, inhale then exhale 1/2 way, squeeze, don't pull or jerk the trigger. Learning good firing habits is better than adjusting the sights to your mistaken method of firing a handgun. Just my .02 cents worth; hope this helps.

Eric Howland
Savannah, GA.

newuspowner · April 14, 2006, 09:16 PM

all info helps, i know it is not my gunsespically the usp expert 45, it is me, i am looking for someonein my local area who can watch me shoot and give me pointers, but i do take everything i read on here and try it , thanks again for all the info

KC135 · April 15, 2006, 12:20 PM

Ball and dummy. Mix dummy ammo in with live, so you can see what is going on when you pull the trigger.

Dry fire--with triple checked gun, no ammo in room, and a dime on top of the slide. The dime should never move.

erh · April 15, 2006, 01:55 PM

KC135 - I've taught that drill a thousand times if it was once... Excellent Eye opener; sounds like a Lil' SAI background if ever I've heard it...

Eric Howland
Savannah, GA.

GoSlash27 · April 16, 2006, 01:48 PM

NewUSP,
Sounds to me like you're anticipating the recoil. There are many threads on the forum on how to discover & overcome this.

pickpocket · April 16, 2006, 04:24 PM

Have someone mix some snap caps with your target load (that way you don't know where they are) - that also helps identify little problems. If you're anticipating recoil it's going to show up loud and clear when you land on one of the snaps.

Another question to ask is whether you're shooting consistent, tight groups. If your groups look clean but they're just not POA/POI then either get your sights adjusted for you or get new sights.
If your groups look nasty and you're shooting low/left then it's either trigger control (righty) or anticipating recoil (lefty).

joecad · April 30, 2006, 01:06 PM

try a lighter load like 185 gr.....see if that helps.
in the mean time check these out:
http://www.bullseyepistol.com/training.htm
http://www.americanshooter.com/features/features.html

oldbillthundercheif · April 30, 2006, 10:56 PM

One drill I was taught was to dry-fire your pistol with a coin balanced on top of it. If you don't execute properly, that coin is going to fall off. We used dimes but other coinage would probably be acceptable.

April 13, 2006, 11:21 PM	#1
newuspowner Senior Member Join Date: February 18, 2006 Location: pensacola fl Posts: 186	i need help!!! i consistantly shoot low and to the right on every gun i own, all are sighted in by my stepfather (a near perfect shot)... what am i doing wrong... i own: h&k usp45c, h&k expert 45, spriengfield 1911 9mm, FN Five-seveN, i am new to shooting hand guns i will take any and all advise thanks brett

April 13, 2006, 11:54 PM	#2
tBlake08 Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2006 Location: West/Middle TN Posts: 178	If YOU own them, sight them to you. If they're his, shoot up and left a little. Might also be an eye dominance thing? Doubt it though. __________________ I've got a firm policy on gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be the one controlling it. -Clint Eastwood

April 14, 2006, 07:24 AM	#4
erh Senior Member Join Date: June 17, 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 158	newuspowner - If you're a "Righty" try less trigger finger; use your finger pad 1/2 way between the first joint & your finger tip; always try to "Squeeze" not "Pull" the trigger. If you're a "Lefty" try a little "More" trigger finger... Lastly, slow down and concentrate... Concentrate on focusing on your front sight blade, inhale then exhale 1/2 way, squeeze, don't pull or jerk the trigger. Learning good firing habits is better than adjusting the sights to your mistaken method of firing a handgun. Just my .02 cents worth; hope this helps. Eric Howland Savannah, GA. Last edited by erh; April 14, 2006 at 04:16 PM.

April 16, 2006, 01:48 PM	#8
GoSlash27 Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2004 Location: Iowa Posts: 3,118	NewUSP, Sounds to me like you're anticipating the recoil. There are many threads on the forum on how to discover & overcome this. __________________ Bill of Rights Must be 18. Void where prohibited. Not available in all states. Some restrictions apply.

April 16, 2006, 04:24 PM	#9
pickpocket Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 570	Have someone mix some snap caps with your target load (that way you don't know where they are) - that also helps identify little problems. If you're anticipating recoil it's going to show up loud and clear when you land on one of the snaps. Another question to ask is whether you're shooting consistent, tight groups. If your groups look clean but they're just not POA/POI then either get your sights adjusted for you or get new sights. If your groups look nasty and you're shooting low/left then it's either trigger control (righty) or anticipating recoil (lefty). __________________ Semper Fi- David Williams "Sabah al khair -- ismee Dave, ahnee al Shayṭān"

April 14, 2006, 12:01 AM	#3
newuspowner Senior Member Join Date: February 18, 2006 Location: pensacola fl Posts: 186	that is just it, i tried sighting them and i still shoot low&right..one thing i have found is i am better outside than indoors,

April 14, 2006, 09:16 PM	#5
newuspowner Senior Member Join Date: February 18, 2006 Location: pensacola fl Posts: 186	all info helps, i know it is not my gunsespically the usp expert 45, it is me, i am looking for someonein my local area who can watch me shoot and give me pointers, but i do take everything i read on here and try it , thanks again for all the info

April 15, 2006, 12:20 PM	#6
KC135 Senior Member Join Date: December 12, 2004 Location: Midwest Posts: 222	Ball and dummy. Mix dummy ammo in with live, so you can see what is going on when you pull the trigger. Dry fire--with triple checked gun, no ammo in room, and a dime on top of the slide. The dime should never move.

April 15, 2006, 01:55 PM	#7
erh Senior Member Join Date: June 17, 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 158	KC135 - I've taught that drill a thousand times if it was once... Excellent Eye opener; sounds like a Lil' SAI background if ever I've heard it... Eric Howland Savannah, GA.

April 30, 2006, 01:06 PM	#10
joecad Senior Member Join Date: April 19, 2005 Location: nky Posts: 263	try a lighter load like 185 gr.....see if that helps. in the mean time check these out: http://www.bullseyepistol.com/training.htm http://www.americanshooter.com/features/features.html __________________ I'ld rather die standing than live kneeling

April 30, 2006, 10:56 PM	#11
oldbillthundercheif Junior member Join Date: April 21, 2006 Location: New Orleans Posts: 2,450	Trigger Control One drill I was taught was to dry-fire your pistol with a coin balanced on top of it. If you don't execute properly, that coin is going to fall off. We used dimes but other coinage would probably be acceptable.