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Old June 26, 2013, 08:25 AM   #1
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Revolver Values

Just started black powder shooting with a rifle and love it! Now want to start in with revolvers too. Going to an estate auction in a couple weeks. Can anyone put a value on any of these guns? Any help would be appreciated.

Richland Black Powder 44 cal. 6 shooter* revolver w/ holster
Fllipietta Black Powder 44 cal. Nickel and gold* 6 shooter* revolver w/ holster
ASM Black powder 6 shooter, 38cal w/ holster
ASM Black Powder 36 cal. Nickel 6 shooter* revolver w/ holster
Fllipietta* black powder, 6 shooter, 44 cal w/ holster
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Old June 26, 2013, 08:26 AM   #2
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Old June 26, 2013, 10:18 AM   #3
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I wouldn't fool with the brass frames unless you can get them for around 100.00. The nickel and gold sells new from Cabela's for 370.00 but if you shoot it the gold wash won't last long at all and IIRC the frame under the nickel is brass.
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Old June 26, 2013, 02:44 PM   #4
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I agree Hawg. That nickel & gold is a mess if handled at all.
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Old June 26, 2013, 04:10 PM   #5
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I will have to agree too. Look at classifieds in the various black powder forums. I have bought all of my BP guns that way except my first one. They are all steel framed.
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Old June 26, 2013, 05:54 PM   #6
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you would be better off passing on them and getting one good steel frame.
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Old June 27, 2013, 05:00 AM   #7
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Thank you!

Thank you for the insight and the advise.
This is how we lean such things.
I will pass on the auction and buy a steel frame.

Thanks again.
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Old June 27, 2013, 10:59 AM   #8
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You've made a wise decision Justified. Not only is Hawg's opinion right on the money; but, since Armi San Marco is no longer in business, getting spare parts if you managed to break one would be next to impossible.
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Old June 27, 2013, 12:38 PM   #9
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I would say Cabella's. They have many nice BP revolvers and their sales are nice. Get yourself a nice Pietta 1851, 1858 or 1860 instead of those guns pictured. Stay with steel frames as Hawg said.

I bought both the 1858 and 1860 and have absolutely no regrets. Before I did so I studied this forum to determine everything I needed to go with it. The fellas here put me on the right path. I've shot my 1858 several times now and love it. Will shoot the 1860 soon as well. Just wanted to get used to one gun at a time.
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Old June 28, 2013, 12:16 AM   #10
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Hi Justified. Saw your post about the BP revolvers that are going to be at an estate auction you mentioned. Since you aren't going to go to it, could you tell me what auction it is, where I can contact the auction company/phone number, and when it is? I'd sure appreciate it.

I have two nickel and gold plated Traditions (Pietta) .44 caliber 1860's and I've always wanted the nickel and gold plated 1851 to go with them. You posted a pic of the nickel and gold plated (and engraved) Traditions (Pietta) 1851 .44 caliber that I've been looking for in this picture of yours.....


Yes the steel frames are more preferable and much stronger and allow for heavier loads as you've been told by the fellas here. But I took off my gold cylinders and gold hammers on my nickel and gold 1860's, and replaced the gold cylinders with stainless like, fluted cylinders for shooting so I can save my gold ones for display, and replaced the gold hammers with case hardened ones. Because as you've been told, the thin gold wash plating will blow off the cylinders if you fire them. It happened to one of mine, hence the reason I switched out cylinders. Like that nickel plated brass frame 1851 in your pic, my 1860's are nickel plated brass frames. But I never load my 1860's any heavier than 22 grains max. So no worries about stretching the brass frame as long as I stick to that load. I'd do the same hammer and cylinder swap with that nickel plated brass frame 1851 and load it the same way too.

Sure would appreciate it if you'd steer me to where that 1851 is and what lot number it is so I can bid on it. Do you know if the auction will also be held online as well as on site?

Sent you a P.M. on this too. If you could, please shoot me a P.M. with the estate auction info.

Thanks, Bill.



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Old July 1, 2013, 10:56 AM   #11
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Auction

http://www.furloauction.com/

Saturday, July 6th
10:00 A.M.
Albert Thomas Estate Auction
501 Brownlee
Sanford, MI 48657
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Old July 1, 2013, 03:11 PM   #12
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Thanks for that info on the auction Justified. Appreciate it.



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Old July 8, 2013, 02:58 AM   #13
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Thanks again for that info Justified.

I contacted the auction company and placed an absentee bid on it. The auction was July 6th, and since this is the weekend, if I did win it they probably haven't been back to the office to notify winners via e mail. If I don't hear something from them in the next several days, then I probably didn't win it.



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Old July 8, 2013, 07:40 AM   #14
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Wise to pass on the auction. Folks go nuts over guns at auctions. At one time, many years ago, I was able to buy old, junker, guns for almost nothing at auctions. I used them for parts and restoration in my shop. Then the disease hit and folks started grossly overypaying for guns at auctions. Junkers started selling for more than the same gun new. Go figger.
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