Defense of Self/Property Prosecution in MA - Page 2

Young.Gun.612 · January 16, 2012, 08:59 PM

Thankfully once high school came around I had filled out, and developed a reputation as soemone you really don't want to mess with. That said, my HS had security cameras, so if they tried that "well I saw you so..." bs I'd have told them pull the tapes or get ready for litigation. Zero tolerance is bs. Let kids defend themselves and drum out the constant problems. Ita not hard to tell the difference between a good kid forced to defend himself and a bad apple.

Sorry, back on topic.

kilimanjaro · January 18, 2012, 12:41 AM

Vote these kind of idiots out of office at every opportunity. Any office, now matter how much good they do, just one action like this is destructive to the people and they need removed from responsibility.

Wyoredman · January 18, 2012, 03:08 AM

Back in the day, we all had rifles in our trucks in the High School parking lot starting October 1st (elk season opener), settled our disputes at lunch hour down at Seely's barn using our knuckels, and if the cops caught us with beer on the weekends they took us home and let dad "teach us a lesson".

As far as the OPs' original post, I truly believe that people often have these illogical beliefs about use of force because they have never had any personal experience with crime. I believe, but can't prove, that once some becomes a crime victim, their thinking on self defense changes rather quickly.

I would suspect that the DA in this case would most surely become an advocate for use of force if he/she were ever assulted and couldn't find a cop anywhere around to help.

Personal experience is becoming more and more benign. Fewer and fewer people need to actually provide for themselves. We are becoming an urban society where everything we need is just around the corner at the local box store. People aren't required to provide their own subsitance. They don't need to provide their own security living in the gated community. Therefore, they think it savage when they hear of someone actually defending themselves.

It all changes once it they actually have an experience!!

Young.Gun.612 · January 18, 2012, 10:56 AM

^^^ My feelings exactly!

mpd61 · January 18, 2012, 06:50 PM

I live here in Mass, am in law enforcement, and promise you that when I retire in eight years it will be in New Hampshire, Maine, or anywhere else but this sickening liberal cesspool.

January 18, 2012, 03:08 AM	#28
Wyoredman Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2011 Location: Wyoming Posts: 1,350	Back in the day, we all had rifles in our trucks in the High School parking lot starting October 1st (elk season opener), settled our disputes at lunch hour down at Seely's barn using our knuckels, and if the cops caught us with beer on the weekends they took us home and let dad "teach us a lesson". As far as the OPs' original post, I truly believe that people often have these illogical beliefs about use of force because they have never had any personal experience with crime. I believe, but can't prove, that once some becomes a crime victim, their thinking on self defense changes rather quickly. I would suspect that the DA in this case would most surely become an advocate for use of force if he/she were ever assulted and couldn't find a cop anywhere around to help. Personal experience is becoming more and more benign. Fewer and fewer people need to actually provide for themselves. We are becoming an urban society where everything we need is just around the corner at the local box store. People aren't required to provide their own subsitance. They don't need to provide their own security living in the gated community. Therefore, they think it savage when they hear of someone actually defending themselves. It all changes once it they actually have an experience!! __________________ Go Pokes! Go Rams!

January 16, 2012, 08:59 PM	#26
Young.Gun.612 Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2010 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 400	Thankfully once high school came around I had filled out, and developed a reputation as soemone you really don't want to mess with. That said, my HS had security cameras, so if they tried that "well I saw you so..." bs I'd have told them pull the tapes or get ready for litigation. Zero tolerance is bs. Let kids defend themselves and drum out the constant problems. Ita not hard to tell the difference between a good kid forced to defend himself and a bad apple. Sorry, back on topic.

January 18, 2012, 12:41 AM	#27
kilimanjaro Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2009 Posts: 3,963	Vote these kind of idiots out of office at every opportunity. Any office, now matter how much good they do, just one action like this is destructive to the people and they need removed from responsibility.

January 18, 2012, 10:56 AM	#29
Young.Gun.612 Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2010 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 400	^^^ My feelings exactly!

January 18, 2012, 06:50 PM	#30
mpd61 Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 2009 Location: Central Mass Posts: 352	I live here in Mass, am in law enforcement, and promise you that when I retire in eight years it will be in New Hampshire, Maine, or anywhere else but this sickening liberal cesspool.