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April 14, 2012, 02:24 PM | #1 |
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green dot for .380 and .45acp (charge check?)
does anyone agree disagree?
for the 45 i intend on using Plated 185 gr Flat Points, so around 6.1-6.8gr of powder 380 will be using Berrys Plated 100 gr Round Nose Hollow Base with around 2.8-3.1gr. i understand there might be some OAL issues? does any one have any experience with these bullets or powder combos. |
April 14, 2012, 03:58 PM | #2 |
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Berry's MFG recommends we use start-to-mid range jacketed load data. I have used lead load data for Berry's regular plated bullets rated to 1200 fps and jacketed load data for Hollow Base Thick Plated (HB/TP) bullets rated to 1450 fps with good results.
Here are 2004 Alliant load data for lead and jacketed bullets with Green Dot (note they are max charges so use 10% reduction as your start charge): |
April 14, 2012, 07:45 PM | #3 |
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cool cool looks like i got it right, so the oal wont be an issue with the hollow base? i intend on keeping these bullets sub sonic (personal preference) so im not worried about the plating ripping off
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April 14, 2012, 08:02 PM | #4 |
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The hollow base doesn't make any difference to the powder charge, it's just to give the bullet a longer bearing surface. I have a box of those bullets but haven't tried them yet (I haven't loaded any .380 in a long time, and usually use 95 grain cast bullets)
Three grains of Green Dot sounds about right. And Unique is the powder for .380 (about 4 grains, but look it up) when you want your little mousegun to really bite your hand when you shoot it.
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April 14, 2012, 08:58 PM | #5 |
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Take your pick: http://www.castpics.net/LoadData/Fre...M/Alliant.html
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April 14, 2012, 09:11 PM | #6 |
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iv used unique for 38spl and i cant say i really liked it
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April 14, 2012, 09:12 PM | #7 |
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oh man Tom234 that is the greatest link iv seen all month thank you man
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April 15, 2012, 08:39 PM | #8 |
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I have used Green Dot a scattered bit over many years. When you HAVE THE PROPER CHARGE, it seems to produce a fairly accurate and quite economical load. The very little bit I used it in .45 Auto worked so well under a lead bullet that I intend to try it again.
The big problem is that it meters like Unique in most equipment -- which is to say, it meters really crappy, like crushed oreo cookies. And if using it in a small volume case like .380, where you need a small charge, you'll have to be really careful that you get the powder drop that you think, expect, or hope you are getting. If you get too light a charge, you will stick a bullet in your bore. Go ahead, ask me how I know! It's my recommendation that you don't even use Green Dot, especially in a small volume case like .380. Unless an old Uncle gave you 10 pounds of the stuff, just treat yourself to something better for the role.
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April 16, 2012, 01:31 AM | #9 |
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i intend on weighing/trickling every single case (ocd/pride + a whole LOT of free time) so im not Too too worried about the metering.
Having said that, What powder do you recommend? as i said before these are the two bullets i intend to load and id like to keep them sub sonic |
April 17, 2012, 09:18 AM | #10 |
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Green Dot worked very well in 45 ACP and 38 Special. It functioned the M1911's at low velocity and shot accurately.
Have no idea what it would do in a 380, but since it is a fast powder, don't see why it would not work well. Code:
Kimber Custom Classic 230 gr LRN 4.5 grs Bullseye 99' & 2005 mixed lot Mixed Brass WLP (brass) °F OAL 1.250" taper crimp .469" 16-May-09 high 83 Ave Vel =805.2 Std Dev =38.07 ES = 136.9 High = 912.4 Low = 775.5 N = 24 230 LRN 4.5 grs Green Dot lot 178 WLP Mixed Military OAL 1.245" taper crimp 0.469" 27 Feb 2010 T = 48 ° F Ave Vel =708 fps Std Dev =12 ES = 40 High = 727 Low = 687 N = 9 accurate, little high, mild recoil 230 LRN 5.0 grs Green Dot lot 178 WLP Mixed Military OAL 1.245" taper crimp 0.469" 27 Feb 2010 T = 48 ° F Ave Vel =802fps Std Dev =19 ES = 61 High = 841 Low = 780 N = 15 230 LRN 5.5 grs Green Dot lot 178 WLP Mixed Military OAL 1.245" taper crimp 0.469" 27 Feb 2010 T = 48 ° F Ave Vel =873 fps Std Dev =30 ES = 88 High = 922 Low = 834 N = 11 M1911 Springfield Armory 5” Kart Barrel 230 LRN 4.5 grs Green Dot lot 178 WLP Mixed Military OAL 1.245" taper crimp 0.469" 27 Feb 2010 T = 48 ° F Ave Vel =719 fps Std Dev =26 ES = 105.1 High = 771 Low = 665.9 N = 14 accurate, little high, mild recoil 230 LRN 5.0 grs Green Dot lot 178 WLP Mixed Military OAL 1.245" taper crimp 0.469" 27 Feb 2010 T = 48 ° F Ave Vel =803 fps Std Dev =25 ES = 97 High = 867 Low = 770 N = 16 Accurate, centered 230 LRN 5.5 grs Green Dot lot 178 WLP Mixed Military OAL 1.245" taper crimp 0.469" 27 Feb 2010 T = 48 ° F Ave Vel =853 fps Std Dev =29 ES = 116 High = 918 Low = 802 N = 15 very accurate, centered
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