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July 25, 2008, 06:23 PM | #26 |
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As John Taffin would say
For those who understand, no explanation is necessary. For those who do not, no explanation is possible.
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Good thread!
I can only say POWER, and beautiful clean, straight lines, with sexy rolling curves.Oh and power
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Watch Jerry Miculek shoot if you don't believe this. .45ACP revolvers represent only a tiny fraction of the revolvers carried for CCW, however. Longer, slimmer cartridges like .38 Special/ .357 (and .44 Magnum) just don't stay well stabilized in the moon clips; they tip, and then the clips bend, after which they don't seat well into the cylinder. They're nowhere near as durable or reliable as magazines. I have a moonclip conversion on just one revolver, for use with .357/.38 moonclips, and it just ain't as good a solution as speedloaders. I'll not get another one done. Speedloaders are a lot faster than speedstrips (slowstrips) or loading rounds individually, but they're still lots slower than a magazine reload. Just sayin'...
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Bellevance pretty well summed up my feelings about revolvers. I'd add to what he said by saying that I LOVE to shoot double action with mine and I've never found an auto that replicates that double action trigger pull. I've also never particularly liked all that business about safeties, slide releases, magazine releases, and loading magazines that comes with semi-autos. Nor do I like the business about single action vs. double action triggers not to mention sa/da triggers. It's all too damn complicated for a simple person like me!!
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how can you not like a revolver? i don't think its possible!
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July 25, 2008, 10:41 PM | #33 |
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Can't think of any technical reason. They just feel right when you hold them, feel right when you shoot them.
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July 26, 2008, 01:09 AM | #34 |
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To me, they look much more intimidating looking at the business end than autos do. They look bigger, and one can see the bullets. Better psychological effect.
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I own revolvers and semis but there are only two handguns I own with which I am confident in low-light point shooting, both of them revolvers. One is an H&R 676 convertible DA .22. The other is an old S&W K frame .38 SPL, which is now my nightstand gun. I have some killer semi-autos (a few 7.62x25 pistols, a 15 round 9MM, etc) and I go with one of these during the day when I'm alert. But, if I was sleepy and in the dark, nothing would be as effective for me as a S&W revolver. Regarding the OP's question as to what makes revolvers cool, just look at this thing. It's gorgeous, way better than my photography skills can show. It sits in the hand like it grew there. Love that old K frame.
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A revolver fills a basic need in the human psyche. It's the ultimate brutish, simplistic, most efficient hand-held killing machine. Everyone my age grew up watching our TV heroes carrying revolvers - from McGarrett on Hawaii 50 and Sgt. Friday on Dragnet with those Detective Specials in crossdraw holsters to Dirty Harry with that .44 mag. hand cannon tucked under his arm. The Untouchables, Starsky and Hutch, Adam-12, and I can go on. We watched westerns where everyone had everything from a 2 shot pocket derringers to a 12" Ned Buntline model. Gunsmoke - the opening scene showed Marshal Dillon in a gunfight. Paladin with that silver Knight embossed holster. John Wayne holding a gun that, because of his size, looked like a toy in his hand. Michael Corleone in Godfather in the restaurant scene. A deadly cold .38 snubbie at point blank range. Graphically delicious!
Revolvers are romantic and blessedly evil at the same time. Point, pull, bang, you're dead. Raw power in calibers no semi-auto has approached so far. Finally, a finely-made revolver is a work of art no pistol can match. Everything fits close and locks up tight. The finish either shines under bright lights in nickel, chrome, or blued, or hits you in the eye in the brushed satin of the stainless and fancy-metal guns. I AM A REVOLVER! A pistol is too mechanical. It does everything for you. Loads the round and ejects the spent casing. You fill the mag. away from the gun, more impersonality. With a revolver, you load each round in the cylinder separately, you're in intimate contact with the gun and the ammo. When it's empty, you have to open the cylinder, eject the shells by hand and reload, feeling the warm barrel in your palm. It's PERSONAL. Availability. I'd guess there are more variations on the revolver than the pistol. More selections of caliber, style, barrel length, round capacity, etc. Picking the right revolver gets to be a VERY personal choice. Don't get me wrong, I love my pistols and have some I wouldn't take any amount of money for, but the revolver is my first love. My first handgun was a S&W Model 19. .357 mag., 4" bull barrel, target trigger and hammer, target grips, nickel plate. A real work of art. Like an idiot, I sold it many years ago. I was overjoyed when my sister-in-law asked me if I wanted an old gun her daddy gave her. I said, "Well, let's see it." I was overjoyed when she opened the gun rug and pulled out a S&W Model 19! It's not a gunsafe queen, but a shooter, and I love it! Revolvers rule! |
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Man, that revolver looks like it's organic instead of mechanical. That's
delicious! What are those grips made out of, leather, wood, ivory? Man, I want a K frame so badly. I love my L frame 686, but a K frame 620 would be a nice addition to my gun collection. |
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I prefer machines with the least amount of moving parts possible. Everyone I know that shoots semi-autos has had problems with jamming, or they have a pistol that wont take wally world ammo. With my revolver, I can buy anything in caliber and not worry about a thing.
Also Reloading a revolver just feels better to me. There is just something about dropping 6 rounds into a chamber...
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What makes revolvers so cool?
The moving round thingy in the middle just fascinates me.
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Oh yeah... one last thing.
Take 300gr 454's loaded hot, fire 6 as fast as you can, and watch the gun smoke from every hole for the next 2 minutes.
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They're not particularly simple - simplicity of operation has been counterbalanced by complexity of design and maintenance. Detail strip a 1911 then do likewise with a Python and let us know how it goes. "Supreme" balance. It's acceptable, generally. It's not appreciably different than that of a semi - both revolvers and semis range from "balance sucks" to "mmm nice" for me depending on a number of factors. "man stopping potential of the magnums..." Here we hit an interesting quandry. The wide range of loads generally is something I like but you've noted "man stopping" from which I infer "defensive use". However, in defensive use the prevailing wisdom is that the revolver should be rendered DAO which causes the trigger to suck if one is used to a tuned 1911 type. Even with extensive practice, one may never get to a level of proficiency with a DAO revolver thus invoking the old saw: "You can't miss hard enough to win." It's great you like your revolvers - I like my several but "supreme"? That's just unseemly, dude. |
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I'm right there with you. Actually, my semi is an STI and the part count would be higher than the Glock - more like the Python, I'd guess. My 686, 27 and 57s might be a touch simpler than the Python. I hate blanket statements - there's always exceptions. (I'll admit the P7 intimidated me when I opened it up the first time). |
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Not all revolvers are more complex than all semis but some revolvers are more complex (internally) than some semis.
This is why I try to avoid blanket statements. By the same token not all revolvers are more reliable than all semis. Some portion of semis can't be limp wristed, some portion of revolvers tend to unscrew themselves, or have trouble working well when dirty. In the specific case of a GI type 1911, it is significantly easier to work on (with success) than a revolver in the specific case of a Python. Assumes one is starting without prior knowledge of either. It's good to keep operational simplicity distinct from parts simplicity. Just do a part count on the Glock vs the Python and you'll be buying a Glock if low moving parts count is all that's important to you. |
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Guys guys guys ... Please don't turn this thread into another counting
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Okay... my real answer would be....
They are the '65 Mustangs, 67 Camaros, Cuda's, T-birds and other classics of the Gun World. Although I'm not a big wheel gun shooter, I very much appreciate the beauty and styling of them. And for the record..... I'm like Ron White.... I already counted as high as I can.... 'Wuh'. Just havin' a bit of fun, chill.
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Why are they cool?
Several posters hit it right on the head - The lines of most revolvers are full of graceful round curves. Men like curves. On their guns, cars and women. I also happen to like old steam engines. The Diesel-Electrics are much more efficient, but there's no awe in watching them move. With steam engines, it's all there to see - those shafts, rods and levers all working to turn wheels in a graceful ballet of synchronized motion. And most of the guys I find admiring them, who are shooters, prefer revolvers too. It's a love of the art of machinery. High Speed - Low Drag A basic M&P Model 10 - high speed, low drag. Nothing extraenous to get in the way of launching a lead pellet downrange. No safeties to remember, no slide to rack. It's the original point & click interface. Lastly.. and this is personal for me... when shooting a revolver like the M&P or the Model 19 below, I feel connected to history. I feel a kinship with people like Elmer Keith, Skeeter Skelton, Bill Jordan, Ed McGivern and brave men in blue who managed to get along with six shots. You understand how they became confident in their shooting abilities and that led to confidence in dealing with hard men. Model 19-5
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