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March 27, 2009, 10:19 PM | #1 | ||
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Ohio Proposal on under 21 firearms,reply and response from my senator.
It started when I saw this news at my local stations website.
The Headline Law Would Make Guns Illegal for Those Under Age 21 http://www.local12.com/content/crime...ozUbAq9Tg.cspx A little about the bill proposed: http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/6498 In the story I noticed that they used references about underage people who were already breaking the current laws when they committed the crimes in regards to the firearm. To be honest this set me off so start my letter writing. I wrote 5 total but I did get my first response back to day from one of my senators on the subject. I have sent letters before but never got any reply's so I am not sure on if I can post names or not? If someone knows if I could do this legally I would be happy to edit or have a mod edit to include the name. I will start with my letter out which I used the NRA-ILA contacts forms to contact my state and local reps. My Letter Quote:
Now the response I received. Quote:
I wish the NRA had a pre drafted letter on this issue I wrote about, It is hard for me to write in a souless mindset. Any suggestions, thoughts if I do it again? Is it customary to write them back?
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March 28, 2009, 09:33 AM | #2 |
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I thought your letter was good. Any letter to one of "them", is a great letter.
I would be very cautious with this guy. Some things in his letter led me to believe he would ban guns in a heart beat in the interest of public safety.
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The only issue I see with your letter is the use of the term "grown-up". It sounds a little childish. I would have replaced it with adult.
Other than that your letter was well reasoned. The response letter was full of code words that send off alarm bells for me. Quote:
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March 28, 2009, 09:44 AM | #4 |
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Your State Legislator is a public person doing the publics work. Use of their name and their corrospondence in the performance of their duties is lawful. It does not break any copuright or privacy laws.
The tone of that letter suggests that they are for any new laws that will inhibit your rights. I would also say that it is a "canned" letter, sent out to anyone that is against their positions. Seen many like them before. |
March 28, 2009, 12:42 PM | #5 |
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I got a similar response from a rep here in MN, and i rewrote the letter asking him to quit dancing around the isuue and let me know which way his vote will go, so i will know which way mine will go when re-election time comes.
You should also look to your local hunting groups for a flood of emails and support. |
March 28, 2009, 01:22 PM | #6 |
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What Antipitas said.
And no, it isn't customary to write them back: there's no need for you to reply to a piece of boilerplate like that letter. If someone takes the trouble to respond, point by point, to the specific issues you raise (dream on!), then, sure, write back if you have something additional to say, but replying to a canned letter will probably just get you another one. BUT -- just because all our reps reply with canned letters is no reason not to write to them: they do pay attention to how many people write about which issues, so it IS worthwhile -- keep up the good work.
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March 28, 2009, 04:14 PM | #7 |
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Thanks for the advice and heads up guys. And thank you to Antipitas & 44 AMP via pm for clarification on legality and the importance of letting others know who sent the email as it helps let others know what their stance is. I did edit my original post to include this senator.
I do agree I could of done better, I also agree that what he sent me was a standard reply. He did not touch base on my issue imo at all, I was asking about a specific issue and he gave me a general reply.lol but I was happy to receive a reply. I just find what they are wanting to do over redundant based on our current laws, and in effect they are total banning the 18 to 20 legal abiding owners. What bothers me the most about that, is they know that voice (18 to 20) is what got our current leader in and who they targeted...yet they are going to remove that voice from our cause if they have nothing to fight for imo. Just knowing form my own sons they would look at it like "well it is only a year, or only two more years i have to wait." To me that means he has to go two years without hunting or being able to defend himself. I hope some other Ohio peeps hop on board with this also even if you do not have kids close to the ages they want to exile from firearms. It only takes one state to lead by example to make is catch on else where. Especially when it is coming from a very gun friendly state like Ohio.
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March 28, 2009, 05:31 PM | #8 |
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You need to send it to State Reps
Brown is a US Senator. You need to find out who your local reps are and send it to them. This bill is in the Ohio congress, not the US congress. It is a canned letter as I have received the exact same letter 1 month ago on another issue. I am close to you so PM me and we might be able to get some grass roots effort going in SW ohio.
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March 28, 2009, 07:29 PM | #9 |
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tacticalmedic, I sent it to all on the list provided by the NRA_ILA based on my zipcode My local reps were sent the letter also as well as the state reps all with the exception of O got it.
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March 29, 2009, 11:11 AM | #10 |
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Hey flippy, make sure you send Gov.Strckland a copy. He likes guns and can have some influence.
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March 29, 2009, 01:36 PM | #11 |
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shortwave, I sent to him as well
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April 8, 2009, 09:13 AM | #13 |
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just an update
Thought I would share my second reply this one from Governor Ted Strickland Looks like it was defeated this time around .
Dear Mr. Flippycat(editted): Thank you for writing with regard to House Bill 354. I appreciate that you took the time to share your views about this important piece of legislation with me. Please know that HB 354 was not approved during the 127th session of the Ohio General Assembly and will therefore need to be reintroduced in the 128th session of the General Assembly. Please be assured I will keep your views in mind if HB 354 is reintroduced and passed by the General Assembly and forwarded to me for signature. I would encourage you to share your concerns with your legislators, as your input will be important as they review this legislation. Once again, I appreciate you writing to me. Please do not hesitate to contact my office if we can assist you in the future. Sincerely, seal Ted Strickland Governor
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