Mossberg 500 0r Remington 870

lsbbigdog · February 22, 2010, 12:27 PM

I would like to see what you guys think. I would used for home defense .I have had a Moss 590 and sold it a while ago and now I'm thinking about a new HD scatter gun.

rantingredneck · February 22, 2010, 12:29 PM

This one's been covered thoroughly in previous threads. A search of your thread title delivers this list:

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...archid=4213750

Lots of reading there.

WacosSon · February 22, 2010, 12:59 PM

I think that link is dead. Do a search, you'll literally find thousands of posts on the topic. I like my synth mossy for HD cuz its light, but I hunt with my 870. All up to you, but probably smart to just do a search. Maybe a moderator can make this thread disappear?

lsbbigdog · February 22, 2010, 01:52 PM

Thanks guys I didnt even think to do a search.

glazer1972 · February 22, 2010, 02:05 PM

870.

ah64mech13 · February 22, 2010, 02:25 PM

mossy

Tenshi · February 22, 2010, 02:43 PM

neither... Mossberg 590

ronto · February 22, 2010, 03:13 PM

This question must be asked at least once a week...Also suggest you try doing a search.

OlympicArmsFan · February 22, 2010, 04:36 PM

I think it all depends on budget. I went Mossberg 500 from Buds Gun Shop. I like the 590A1 but just couldnt get the funds for it and I really dont need a bayo lug. I also like the Remington 870s and I found one I could have gotten in my price range but I read about problems on the finish.

They both will do the job of HD and more and Im sure more then we will have to ever do. I dont think we will ever be going to battle and then a shotgun wouldnt be my first choice.

GunsAreGood · February 22, 2010, 05:17 PM

Well both are fine guns but im going with the trusty 870. I own multiple 870's and have never had a malfunction, failure to fire, no problems at all. EVER. Thats not to say that there is not bad apples in every batch. My reasoning for picking the 870 is first why fix something that is not broken. I have never had a problem so im sticking with it. Next is the 870's receiver is milled from a solid block of steel. Not so with the Mossberg. (aluminum). Im not saying it is less superior than the 870 im just saying I personally like the extra weight to my HD shotgun. Maybe my dislike for Mossberg is the lightweight toy like feel to me and the only Mossberg I ever owned is being sold on consignment at my local gun shop right now. I look at the Mossberg vs Remington debate is just like Ford vs Chevy. Its a never ending debate. It might be interesting to find out if there is any relation of shotgun preference to truck preference.

KingEdward · February 22, 2010, 05:31 PM

I have a couple of 500s. One is the stock model bantam 500 (all black) which is perfect for me (short arms).

The other is harder to find. It's a 500 youth model camo finish with tru glo
sights. It's the bantum Turkey model. Both are 20 gauge.

They are excellent firearms.

I've only put about 400 rounds through each gun. Never had 1 malfunction.

Prefer the safety on the top.

Dave McC · February 22, 2010, 06:22 PM

The Archives are your friend....

navyman2015 · February 22, 2010, 06:24 PM

Have to go with the 500 for home defense. Safety being on top is huge, not only for accessibility but also for ease of use. I use the 870 for the field because it gets a lot more wear and tear out there. But having one of each, I'd have to say my preference for the 500 is only slightly more than the 870. Boils down to what you like and what you're willing to pay for it.

LockedBreech · February 22, 2010, 06:28 PM

870 all the way. I prefer the trigger-mounted safety because I can keep eyes on target as I disable or enable it. Also, never a bad round through the fellow.

Mossy500 · February 22, 2010, 07:01 PM

my name says it all

SigP6Carry · February 22, 2010, 07:04 PM

I prefer the Ithaca M37, myself... but since that's not on the list: Mossberg 500. Just cause I own one. That's it.

M1AinMO · February 22, 2010, 07:09 PM

I'll second the 590, great weapon.

jmr40 · February 22, 2010, 07:10 PM

870 as 1st choice. Benelli Nova would be my 2nd choice with the Browning or Mossberg 590 also contenders. I'd pass on the 500.

SoilworK777 · February 22, 2010, 07:10 PM

The H&R Pardner pump is an 870 clone, and a damn good one. Having handled the 870 Express and Mossberg 500 quite a bit, I would say it is superior to both. It's also 2/3 the cost of the Express.

Palmetto-Pride · February 22, 2010, 07:26 PM

870 hands down over a 500 just pick up both and you will see why.

the rifleer · February 22, 2010, 09:11 PM

Its truly is a matter of preference. I have shot both and i can say that i personally like the mossberg better.

The 870 is heavier and the safety and bolt release are in a place that are not as easy to get to as the mossberg.

If I was going hunting and someone handed me one,I would be happy with either, but i would prefer the mossberg.

WacosSon · February 22, 2010, 09:23 PM

with all the threads on this topic, are we really gonna start this one up?

jlv08 · February 23, 2010, 12:08 AM

Flip a coin. They are both excellent shotguns. Wingmaster or Mossberg 590 or Persuader. Any make a good choice and it's preference.

jcjr3020 · February 23, 2010, 12:34 AM

870 all the way. Work the pump on each at the store, and you will pick the 870. (that's what sold me any way)

GunsAreGood · February 23, 2010, 05:26 AM

[QUOTE]The 870 is heavier and the safety and bolt release are in a place that are not as easy to get to as the mossberg./QUOTE]If you plan on puttin and tactical stock with a pistol grip on it the grip will make it very hard to access the bolt release.

[QUOTE]870 hands down over a 500 just pick up both and you will see why./QUOTE]
Completely agree. Go to a gun store that has both which is like all of them and handle both of them and it will make your mind up right there.

February 22, 2010, 12:27 PM	#1
lsbbigdog Member Join Date: May 18, 2008 Posts: 63	Mossberg 500 0r Remington 870 I would like to see what you guys think. I would used for home defense .I have had a Moss 590 and sold it a while ago and now I'm thinking about a new HD scatter gun. __________________ *Business End Customs* www.businessendcustoms.com

February 22, 2010, 12:29 PM	#2
rantingredneck Senior Member Join Date: January 12, 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,728	This one's been covered thoroughly in previous threads. A search of your thread title delivers this list: http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...archid=4213750 Lots of reading there. __________________ NRA Member NC Hunter's Education Instructor PCCA Member (What's PCCA you ask? <- Check the link)

February 22, 2010, 12:59 PM	#3
WacosSon Member Join Date: January 6, 2008 Posts: 85	I think that link is dead. Do a search, you'll literally find thousands of posts on the topic. I like my synth mossy for HD cuz its light, but I hunt with my 870. All up to you, but probably smart to just do a search. Maybe a moderator can make this thread disappear? __________________ _______________________________ Lifetime NRA member "A free people ought to be armed." - George Washington

February 22, 2010, 01:52 PM	#4
lsbbigdog Member Join Date: May 18, 2008 Posts: 63	Thanks guys I didnt even think to do a search. __________________ *Business End Customs* www.businessendcustoms.com

February 22, 2010, 03:13 PM	#8
ronto Senior Member Join Date: January 5, 2007 Location: Smack Dab in the Middle of Nowhere. Posts: 505	Mossberg 500 for me... This question must be asked at least once a week...Also suggest you try doing a search. __________________ "We will do this: we will hang together, we will keep our organization, our arms, our discipline, our hatred of oppression, until one universal shout goes up from an admiring age that this Missouri Cavalry Division preferred exile to submission, death to dishonor". General Joseph O. Shelby, CSA (1830-1897) The only Confederate General who refused to surrender himself or his 1,000+ "Iron Brigade".

February 22, 2010, 02:05 PM	#5
glazer1972 Member Join Date: May 27, 2002 Location: East TX Posts: 78	870.

February 22, 2010, 02:25 PM	#6
ah64mech13 Junior Member Join Date: February 24, 2009 Posts: 11	mossy

February 22, 2010, 02:43 PM	#7
Tenshi Member Join Date: January 28, 2010 Posts: 50	neither... Mossberg 590

February 22, 2010, 04:36 PM	#9
OlympicArmsFan Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2007 Posts: 172	I think it all depends on budget. I went Mossberg 500 from Buds Gun Shop. I like the 590A1 but just couldnt get the funds for it and I really dont need a bayo lug. I also like the Remington 870s and I found one I could have gotten in my price range but I read about problems on the finish. They both will do the job of HD and more and Im sure more then we will have to ever do. I dont think we will ever be going to battle and then a shotgun wouldnt be my first choice.

February 22, 2010, 05:17 PM	#10
GunsAreGood Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2010 Posts: 300	Well both are fine guns but im going with the trusty 870. I own multiple 870's and have never had a malfunction, failure to fire, no problems at all. EVER. Thats not to say that there is not bad apples in every batch. My reasoning for picking the 870 is first why fix something that is not broken. I have never had a problem so im sticking with it. Next is the 870's receiver is milled from a solid block of steel. Not so with the Mossberg. (aluminum). Im not saying it is less superior than the 870 im just saying I personally like the extra weight to my HD shotgun. Maybe my dislike for Mossberg is the lightweight toy like feel to me and the only Mossberg I ever owned is being sold on consignment at my local gun shop right now. I look at the Mossberg vs Remington debate is just like Ford vs Chevy. Its a never ending debate. It might be interesting to find out if there is any relation of shotgun preference to truck preference. __________________ From my cold dead hands If guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns

February 22, 2010, 05:31 PM	#11
KingEdward Senior Member Join Date: April 22, 2009 Location: The Volunteer State Posts: 439	I have a couple of 500s. One is the stock model bantam 500 (all black) which is perfect for me (short arms). The other is harder to find. It's a 500 youth model camo finish with tru glo sights. It's the bantum Turkey model. Both are 20 gauge. They are excellent firearms. I've only put about 400 rounds through each gun. Never had 1 malfunction. Prefer the safety on the top. __________________ "It'll happen fast once I start" - Charlie Waite

February 22, 2010, 06:22 PM	#12
Dave McC Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 13, 1999 Location: Columbia, Md, USA Posts: 8,811	The Archives are your friend....

February 22, 2010, 06:24 PM	#13
navyman2015 Junior Member Join Date: August 27, 2007 Posts: 6	500 is choice for HD Have to go with the 500 for home defense. Safety being on top is huge, not only for accessibility but also for ease of use. I use the 870 for the field because it gets a lot more wear and tear out there. But having one of each, I'd have to say my preference for the 500 is only slightly more than the 870. Boils down to what you like and what you're willing to pay for it.

February 22, 2010, 06:28 PM	#14
LockedBreech Senior Member Join Date: July 6, 2009 Location: Rocky Mountain West Posts: 3,395	870 all the way. I prefer the trigger-mounted safety because I can keep eyes on target as I disable or enable it. Also, never a bad round through the fellow. __________________ 16 Pistols, 5 Rifles, 1 Shotgun, no time to shoot them

February 22, 2010, 07:01 PM	#15
Mossy500 Senior Member Join Date: August 14, 2009 Location: Lake Stevens, WA Posts: 120	my name says it all __________________ NRA member "Its only illegal if you get caught"

February 22, 2010, 07:04 PM	#16
SigP6Carry Senior Member Join Date: August 27, 2009 Posts: 1,086	I prefer the Ithaca M37, myself... but since that's not on the list: Mossberg 500. Just cause I own one. That's it. __________________ -liberal gun nut = exception to the rule- -1.24274238 miles, because Russians don't need scopes- -Gun control was the Klan's favorite law, how can you advocate a set of laws designed to allow the denigration of a people?-

February 22, 2010, 07:09 PM	#17
M1AinMO Junior Member Join Date: February 21, 2010 Posts: 3	I'll second the 590, great weapon.

February 22, 2010, 07:10 PM	#18
jmr40 Senior Member Join Date: June 15, 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 10,809	870 as 1st choice. Benelli Nova would be my 2nd choice with the Browning or Mossberg 590 also contenders. I'd pass on the 500.

February 22, 2010, 07:10 PM	#19
SoilworK777 Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 247	The H&R Pardner pump is an 870 clone, and a damn good one. Having handled the 870 Express and Mossberg 500 quite a bit, I would say it is superior to both. It's also 2/3 the cost of the Express.

February 22, 2010, 07:26 PM	#20
Palmetto-Pride Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 2,071	870 hands down over a 500 just pick up both and you will see why. __________________ “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.” -Margaret Thatcher-

February 22, 2010, 09:11 PM	#21
the rifleer Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2008 Location: Sunny California Posts: 1,281	Its truly is a matter of preference. I have shot both and i can say that i personally like the mossberg better. The 870 is heavier and the safety and bolt release are in a place that are not as easy to get to as the mossberg. If I was going hunting and someone handed me one,I would be happy with either, but i would prefer the mossberg.

February 22, 2010, 09:23 PM	#22
WacosSon Member Join Date: January 6, 2008 Posts: 85	with all the threads on this topic, are we really gonna start this one up? __________________ _______________________________ Lifetime NRA member "A free people ought to be armed." - George Washington

February 23, 2010, 12:08 AM	#23
jlv08 Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2008 Posts: 122	Flip a coin. They are both excellent shotguns. Wingmaster or Mossberg 590 or Persuader. Any make a good choice and it's preference.

February 23, 2010, 12:34 AM	#24
jcjr3020 Senior Member Join Date: November 21, 2008 Location: Western Maryland Posts: 127	870 all the way. Work the pump on each at the store, and you will pick the 870. (that's what sold me any way) __________________ “Talk low, talk slow and don't say too much.” -John Wayne- FEAR NONE - - RESPECT ALL

February 23, 2010, 05:26 AM	#25
GunsAreGood Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2010 Posts: 300	[QUOTE]The 870 is heavier and the safety and bolt release are in a place that are not as easy to get to as the mossberg./QUOTE]If you plan on puttin and tactical stock with a pistol grip on it the grip will make it very hard to access the bolt release. [QUOTE]870 hands down over a 500 just pick up both and you will see why./QUOTE] Completely agree. Go to a gun store that has both which is like all of them and handle both of them and it will make your mind up right there. __________________ From my cold dead hands If guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns